How many?

Started by Echuu12 pages

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Originally posted by KharmaDog
[B] Terrorism. Yes a situation which he made worse. Excellent work there.

Hurricanes. I guess it's a proven fact that there have been no natural disasters during any other presidency. I was not aware of that fact.

Possibly new diseases rising on the threat meter. Please be more vague. I think the possibility of a worldwide pandemic is not Bush's jurisdiction.

Higher deubt. (Thanks to the Clinton administration.) It's DEBT sparky! And Clinton was doing a fine job. I guess the debt from the war in Iraq is all Clinton's fault.
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Terrorism...we haven't had a single attack on U.S. soil since 9/11

Hurricanes...I'm pretty sure he's the first president to ever be blamed for a hurricane

New diseases... I think that's a reference to SARS and the bird flu

Higher debt...in my -opinion- the only reason he was doing so well was because he inherited the results of the work done by Reagan and Bush Sr. Then he screwed it up and Bush inherited the resulted of Clinton's blunder....and as of now the economy is doing fairly well other than the gas issue.

He who smealt it, dealt it AC..

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Originally posted by Echuu
Terrorism...we haven't had a single attack on U.S. soil since 9/11

You didn't have that many to begin with, and I am sure that one 9/11 ia enough. Bush's war in Iraq has destabilized the entire middle east and has actually united various cells under the Al Queda banner not to mention the fact that this war has increased fundamentalist solidarity.

Originally posted by Echuu
Hurricanes...I'm pretty sure he's the first president to ever be blamed for a hurricane
He wasn't blamed for the hurricane, just the way it was dealt with and the fact that if so many troops had not been in Iraq, then the national guard would have been where it is supposed to be doing what it was intended to do.

Originally posted by Echuu
New diseases... I think that's a reference to SARS and the bird flu
Which has nothing to do with Bush. There have always been diseases. AIDS for example.

Originally posted by Echuu
Higher debt...in my -opinion- the only reason he was doing so well was because he inherited the results of the work done by Reagan and Bush Sr. Then he screwed it up and Bush inherited the resulted of Clinton's blunder....and as of now the economy is doing fairly well other than the gas issue.

Many economists would disagree with you. And research the cost of the Iraq war, you know who's paying for that?

Originally posted by Spelljammer
He who smealt it, dealt it AC..

Back to your old tactics of avoiding the issues and trying to seem amusing. Soon you will stop posting in this thread and hope that people will forget how you made yourself look stupid. Just like old time eh Big Evil?

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Originally posted by Echuu
Terrorism...we haven't had a single attack on U.S. soil since 9/11
Specious reasoning. See Simpsons, bear tax and not having bear attacks.
Originally posted by Echuu
Hurricanes...I'm pretty sure he's the first president to ever be blamed for a hurricane
This is inaccurate and oversimplified. Are you suggesting people are saying Bush caused the weather phenomena?
Originally posted by Echuu
New diseases... I think that's a reference to SARS and the bird flu
I have no idea what he's referring to with "New diseases." Nor do I see how that relates to Bush. I do know that ABC in Africa isn't working without the C for an old disease called AIDS.
Originally posted by Echuu
Higher debt...in my -opinion- the only reason he was doing so well was because he inherited the results of the work done by Reagan and Bush Sr. Then he screwed it up and Bush inherited the resulted of Clinton's blunder....and as of now the economy is doing fairly well other than the gas issue.
Sydney Morning Herald, March 17th 2005
The chairman of the US Federal Reserve, Alan Greenspan, has admitted he made a mistake in 2001 when he defended President George Bush's tax cuts, which led to the turnaround of a large budget surplus at the end of the Clinton presidency to a budget deficit this year of more than $US400 billion ($506 billion).

Instead of a projected surplus of $US5.6 trillion by 2011, the budget deficit is now expected to be $US4 trillion by that date if the tax cuts become permanent.

EDIT: Damn you KharmaDog you stole my thunder lol.

spelljammer, if me, KD, and AC can all agree on one thing, you know its just the gods honest objective truth as plain as the nose on your face.

that truth: you have no frikin idea what the hell you are rambling about

Originally posted by PVS
spelljammer, if me, KD, and AC can all agree on one thing,

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Originally posted by KharmaDog
You didn't have that many to begin with, and I am sure that one 9/11 ia enough. Bush's war in Iraq has destabilized the entire middle east and has actually united various cells under the Al Queda banner not to mention the fact that this war has increased fundamentalist solidarity.

He wasn't blamed for the hurricane, just the way it was dealt with and the fact that if so many troops had not been in Iraq, then the national guard would have been where it is supposed to be doing what it was intended to do.

Which has nothing to do with Bush. There have always been diseases. AIDS for example.

Many economists would disagree with you. And research the cost of the Iraq war, you know who's paying for that?

Yes and there have been many changed in the governments in the middle east-for the better I might ad....Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Lebanon.

The troops wouldn't have had to if the Democrat run New Orleans would have done their job.

Yeah diseases doesn't really have much to do with anything...I was just wondering if that's what he was talking about.

Taxpayers

xmarksthespot>........

People HAVE said that Bush is the cause of hurricanes.

Diseases... ditto from what I said to KharmaDog

Economy...it does take a while for tax cuts to have their full affect. He can't just wave his hand and make things better. Whens the last time you've heard anything about jobs on the news?

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Originally posted by xmarksthespot
EDIT: Damn you KharmaDog you stole my thunder lol.

Bush stole it with his weather machine 😛

And on a side note... I don't necessarily agree with the thoughts and opinions of spelljammer. 😆

Originally posted by Spelljammer
Left the topic name vain on purpose so you'd actually have to [b]read it.. How many presidents have had to deal with as much bullshit as Bush? None..

Despite being bashed all the way to the fifth layer of hell, and there being hardly any silence to hear your own thoughts because of all the liberal jibber-jabber.. Bush has had to endure way more responsibility then any other preisdent.

Terrorism.
Hurricanes.
More vicous press.
Possibly new diseases rising on the threat meter.
Energy disefficentcy.
Higher deubt. (Thanks to the Clinton administration.)

With all this and the normal tedius paperwork involved in being the president. What's up? How can you justify taking your anger out on a man who barely has the time to whipe his own ass? SpellJammer is sure had you, or even George Bush himself knew all this shit was going to happen, he wouldn't even WANT to be president..

It's just stupid and immature really. However the retardation has reached new heights and SpellJammer can't even turn on ceartain news stations without hearing every five seconds about how bad of a president Bush is.. CNN for being a liberal source kindof lays off,but they're so jaded with that whole democratic outlook that they're boring as hell to watch.. That's why FOX is the most powerful name in news.. [/B]

This time I need to disagree with you. I am Liberal and Bush, is only in this for his own profit. Open your eyes. Bush and Chaney are so shady. for one did you ever hear of Haliburton?? an oil company that Chaney use to own. It has done such more shady shit they paid to cover up. Bush tries to make it seem like he has it bad, he has it better then all of us. He knew what being president had in store. If he didn't want to pres he would not have not ran for a second term or he would resign.

Now about terrorism, NO MATTER how much Bush tries he will not stop terrorism, it has always been and will always be. He is only making matters worse by continuing this freaking war.

Hurricanes is nothing to do with it, Thats nature. It has no reason using that saying he has it so hard. No matter who would be office they would need to deal with it. Not just Bush, the governers of those states and the people. EVERYONE is affected by this not just him.

As for press, there is always press out and digging up crap and saying things.If your in the spot light, the press will be there. Even more for a president who is suppose to run a country, Americans want to know what will be going on with our country and how our lives will be affected, as citizens we have that right to know.

New disease come and go with time, This is more for medical researchers and doctors to focus on.

Energy deficiency, now if you would know and bush would know this has been know for a while. for years we knew the oil wouldn't last forever and would someday need to find an alternative. Bush's first alternative will to be destroy the environment and rip up Alaska., then turn toward Nuclear energy. his choices will screw us more then, what we are screwed now.

Higher debt, well if Clinton caused 'higher debt' I feel sorry for the next pres, he will have a hell of a lot more debt from Bush then any other pres.

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Originally posted by Echuu
And on a side note... I don't necessarily agree with the thoughts and opinions of spelljammer. 😆

you make SpellJammer sound like a right-wing Michal Moore Echuu.. 😛

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Spelljammer, your post is as much as I expected, you are pathetic.

Originally posted by Echuu
Yes and there have been many changed in the governments in the middle east-for the better I might ad....Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, Lebanon.

The troops wouldn't have had to if the Democrat run New Orleans would have done their job.

Yeah diseases doesn't really have much to do with anything...I was just wondering if that's what he was talking about.

Taxpayers

xmarksthespot>........

People HAVE said that Bush is the cause of hurricanes.

Diseases... ditto from what I said to KharmaDog

Economy...it does take a while for tax cuts to have their full affect. He can't just wave his hand and make things better. Whens the last time you've heard anything about jobs on the news?

You do realize that Afghanistan is in dire straights right now and that many U.S. servicemen would rather be stationed in Iraq than Afghanistan right now don't you.

You also realize that Iraq is far from over and to think it will be better in the near future is not realistic?

Also you realize that Al Queda membership is up?

And what job should the Demo's dome in New Orleans? That's a bit of a cop out. T he national guard SHOULD have been there to do their job. They were in Iraq.

I think x put the financial system in perspective and you have yet to comment on the spending on the war that is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYY over any estimates given to the public at the beginning of all this.

Could you please quit with the third person shit, it's getting really old. 😛

not to mention that this is the first war in american history that is being financed. thats right, its all borrowed money from our allies.

way to go bush!!! now america is like the moocher cousin who keeps dropping by for a handout. way to keep our dignity.

Originally posted by PVS
not to mention that this is the first war in american history that is being financed. thats right, its all borrowed money from our allies.

way to go bush!!! now america is like the moocher cousin who keeps dropping by for a handout. way to keep our dignity.

he also makes all Americans look arrogent. There is so much illegal shit going on with this war its not funny.

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Originally posted by KharmaDog
You do realize that Afghanistan is in dire straights right now and that many U.S. servicemen would rather be stationed in Iraq than Afghanistan right now don't you.

You also realize that Iraq is far from over and to think it will be better in the near future is not realistic?

Also you realize that Al Queda membership is up?

And what job should the Demo's dome in New Orleans? That's a bit of a cop out. T he national guard SHOULD have been there to do their job. They were in Iraq.

I think x put the financial system in perspective and you have yet to comment on the spending on the war that is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYY over any estimates given to the public at the beginning of all this.

No. If it were you would hear about it on the liberal media.

I realize that it's far from over.

Source please?

In cases of natural disasters the local and state government are supposed to take care of the issue unless they absolutely need the federal government help. They wouldn't have needed any help if their state and city wasn't so corrupt.

Yes wars are costly.

It's the National Guard's job to protect the country, part of that is to deal with disasters. It is NOT their job to be fighting a war overseas.

And it's the media's JOB to keep the president in line; this is called being a watchdog and it's to keep the president accountable for his actions. However, the media has been very lighthanded with Bush.

National debt? You do realize that during Clinton's terms the US, for the first time, has a budget surplus and NO deficit? And now look at the budget. Bush keeps cutting money from programs where it's needed, like education, to fund his little war.

Sorry, SpellJammer, but as usual you're wrong and look like a fool.

Originally posted by Echuu

In cases of natural disasters the local and state government are supposed to take care of the issue unless they absolutely need the federal government help. They wouldn't have needed any help if their state and city wasn't so corrupt.

The Louisiana and New Orleans governments asked for help before the hurricane even hit because they knew it was going to be more than they could handle on their own. It took federal help 4 days after the hurricane had hit to show up. Please do some research and find out what you're talking about before making such claims.

Originally posted by Spelljammer

There's four members there. PVS, Kharma and myself would make a trio, if anything. Unless you secretly want to be the fourth member?

Just joshing with you.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
There's four members there. PVS, Kharma and myself would make a trio, if anything. Unless you secretly want to be the fourth member?

Just joshing with you.

-AC

ok, i get to be bizarro

SJ, you can be retardo

Originally posted by Lana
The Louisiana and New Orleans governments asked for help before the hurricane even hit because they knew it was going to be more than they could handle on their own. It took federal help 4 days after the hurricane had hit to show up. Please do some research and find out what you're talking about before making such claims.

Did it look like I was talking about the feds? If so I am sorry. I know their efforts were crap and FEMA is crap.

Please double check my post when reading it before making such claims; I was not trying to defend the federal response.

Originally posted by PVS
ok, i get to be bizarro

SJ, you can be retardo

hes not retarded, everyone is entitled to their opinions. But the popular opinion is BUSH SUCKS! there for the reason so many are disagreeing with SJ.

and I don't see how anyone was so dumb to vote for Bush for a second term. WAKE THE HELL UP AMERICA furious welcome to another four years of hell.