Ken Masters VS Terry Bogard

Originally posted by brainchild81
No. Rock's a fictional character, just like Terry. I get that. Why don't you?
😆 Dude seriously, you're gonna look back at this thread someday and have a good laugh @ yourself. All I hear from you is "Waaah! I want Terry to be the star again. Waaah!Rock's a carbon copy. Waaah! I hate Iori and Kyo so I'll call them gay(Somebody's a little too interested in the sex life of 2 male videogame characters😘) Waaah! Chickens**t flames! Waaah! Why won't SNK listen to me!? Waaah! I feel a need to downrate other characters in order to make Terry look cool again. Waaaah! If you disagree I'll resort to name calling. " Seriously dude, you come off as a 10 year old throwing a fanboy tantrum. Just relax. Terry used to be the star a long time ago. You know this already. Between Ash & Kyo it's debatable, but Terry is definitely out of the equation.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Terry Bogard (ƒeƒŠ[Eƒ{ƒK[ƒh) is a video game character created by SNK, and is the main character of the Fatal Fury series. For a short time, he was also the mascot of SNK
50yen's not on a high horse. He's trying to help you realize how small minded you're presenting yourself as. I disagree w/him about Ken Vs Terry, but I'm not gonna call him a noob or "polooka". That's beneath me and it would only serve to make me look like a fanboy.

I know they are fictional characters wiseguy. "Why wont SNK listen to me...waahhh!" where on this forum have I have that?...get real man. That show's how immature you are as well. You seem to come off a person who has no idea of what they are saying especially when it comes to characters such as Terry and Ryo.

I am sorry but Ash and Kyo...well in honesty I could carless about that rivarly and Terry will always be debatable. You are also telling me old news with Wiikipedia since I go to that site alot.

Small minded...nah. I admit I was calling you those names seeing how so seem to say ridiculos stuff "Terry's hat flies off and gets burned to a crisp" since you seem to ask me why I say immature stuff about Kyo and Iori what are you reasons for saying immature stuff about Terry and Ryo as well. Other than "Ryo is a Ripoff Terry is a hasbeen"

ken gets thrashed by vega.. IMO MARS GOD OF WAR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vega...

terry>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mars.... hmmmmmmmmm

Originally posted by jinzin
ken gets thrashed by vega.. IMO MARS GOD OF WAR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vega...

terry>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mars.... hmmmmmmmmm

Basically.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Ok first off you need to get off your high horse.

I'm not on a High horse just a confident fan who knows what he's talking about.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
I never said anything about Rock being weak.

LOL. Calling him a snot nosed brat and saying he cant do anything but ripoff moves of Terry and Geese to do anything because he cant do anything on his own is implying it greatly.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
I already know the story to MOTW'S and it is diffrent from FF connected but Different.

Define "different". Altho the timeline has been altered a bit to keep the characters younger, GD and MOTW are stilll very much the same universe.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Potentinal?....maybe somehwhere along the line but since you seem to come in here acting holier than thou, I guess Shingo has the potentinal to pass Kyo huh?

Well Rock has the whole Garou story revolving around him as of MOTW (which is the latest GD game) and seeing as he's the primary main character and how much they go on about his potential and his legacy being Geese's son and all. I'd say it's pretty safe to say that he will definetly surpass Terry in the future. This is how stories of legends are born after all. Terry whether you like it or not has become the Mentor and father figure to Rock. I would think that Terry would be very Happy and proud to see Rock surpass him seeing as they pretty much have a father and son relationship. And Fathers (in most cases) always want to see their sons surpass them.

As for Shingo, I'm certain he will become stronger but seeing as he doesn't have the Advanced Blood of Kusanagi, It will be a very tough path for him to surpass Kyo. I dont think Shingo will surpass Kyo but I will definetly say that Shingo is a Tough bastard and has a Lot of heart and Passion for fighting and that my friend takes you a long way. Also, You should know that Kyo and Shingo's relationship is different than that of Terry and Rock. First off Kyo and Shingo's ages are not that differnt but Terry could technically be Rock's Big Big Brother. Kyo and Shingo are more like school buddies. Shingo being the admirer of Kyo because of his status as KOF and being world famous for his feats. Terry and Rock on the other hand are more like I said, Father and son. Terry feels responsible for Rock and takes care of him as he would his own son. So yeah I'd say their relationships are very different and being that, it will effect the outcome of things to come in the future for the characters.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
what are you trying to proove.

LOL Not much. Except that it's all over the games and Merchandise that Kyo is SNK's flagship character and quite possibly the Most Powerful of SNK's Heroes as well.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Well the hardcore gamers I know and speak to think otherwise. Alot of the SNK sites think that Terry and Ryu would make a better matchup than Ryu vs Kyo.

LOL. I think Ryu and Terry are a great matchup. Being as they both have the same gimmick of humble fighters who search all over the world for tough opponents and journey for enlightenment. But I also think that Kyo and Ryu are a great matchup as well even tho their gimmicks are totally different. Which matchup you like more is depending on the person but when it comes to official, SNK and Capcom are putting their 2 Top guys face to face and those 2 guys would be Kyo and Ryu whether you like it or not.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Since you seem to say that Kyo and Iori are selling merchadise where would that be.... I know for a fact most of their merchandise is selling alot in Japan and in HK.

It sells everywhere my friend. If there are SNK fans, it will sell. I know this because I am an Anime goods dealer myself LOL I dont know where you get your info from but you must talk to only the Terry fandom because if you go all over the world to cons and tourneys you'd see that Kyo is Extremely Popular And considering Kyo has all the girl fans as well, I'd say Terry is beat pretty hard in the Popularity department.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Yes I will admit Kyo and Iori sell the most becaue they are the most hyped

In other words they are more popular than the characters you like so that means they are "hyped"

yeeeeah gotcha LOL

Originally posted by P-Geyser
and Kyo being the strongest is really doubtful.

I'd like to see any Terry fan debate this. It's ALL OVER the Games and even if you count Anime and manga Kyo still comes out on top. Face it Kyo is the star of KOF in general. Even if they switch the focus character each trilogy. It is still HEAVILY implied that Kyo is potentially the Strongest and most revered. Again you're just mad because your Favorite Character is NOT the Most popular and NOT the Strongest. But facts are facts and if you cant accept that then you just come off like you're some angry spiteful fan.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
I disagree about the Terry and Ryu matchup. I think it would go either way with Ryu winning one time and Terry may win the next. You come trying to attack me but I see you let other comments slip by

LOL I didn't let any comments slip by. I will tell you this. Ryu is the Definitive fighting game hero. What he stands for surpasses that of any other main character in all fighting games. If there was a Superman in Fighting games it'd be him without a doubt. Like Superman is to Superheroes Ryu is the Fighting game heroes. He is even up there with Rockman as the Capcom Flagship. He is the Most recognizable Fighting game hero in the world. I think Terry would put up a good fight but Ryu is Ryu, He will win. He has fought and beat guys who are tougher than Terry. His Power levels in the game story, anime and mangas are insane. and even if you bring up GD movie 3 where Terry beats the Armor of Mars I'd say that all the the other Ryu stories out there would put him on top (Check out Ryu Final) Again, Terry would give him a good fight and if they were just having a friendly match Terry could win a round or two but both of them at their Best? Taking it to the limits? Although it's fairly debatable I'd have to say Ryu would definetely be the victor.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
I hate the HK comics.

Many ppl do. I think they are fun and Andy Seto is a very good artist.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Yes I recall that Terry became Drunk you are right. Though still if Kyo is so godly he should have been able to beat Mai without needing his flames.

You kinda forgot the part where Kyo lost his fighting spirt. Just like you know Joe Knocked Terry on his ass in GDMovie 2 when he was a drunk?? When there is no will to fight, there is no way for either of them to win. This is a bad example to use.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
I bet you havent noticed but in the comics Kyo is so highly dependant on his flames. Terry fights and continues to do with his skills that were developed from his own hard training so right back at ya.

Kyo uses his flames because those are the techniques he knows and most effective in. The Kusanagi Ryuu techniques are heavily flame based totally taking the full use of the flames which are exclusive to the family. In other words it's his fighting style. Just like Terry uses Buster wolf, Burn Knuckle, Power wave and Power Geyser. Kyo uses his flames. It's all about transmitting one's Ki to unleash Physical Energy, As Kyo is part of an advanced Bloodline he has a special Ki which takes the form of Crimson flames.

Also, hard training doesn't necessarily make you the better fighter. There are guys who train much longer and harder who lose to the guys who's trained less but are more talented and gifted. It's obvious that Kyo is more of a genius than Terry is when it comes to fighting being as he's significantly younger than Terry and can fight at the same level if not higher. There are ppl who take longer to learn things and there are people who can pick things up just like that. This gives you a good idea how high one's potential is. Kyo being part of an advanced bloodline obviously just gives him more advantages on top of his already insane potential and talents.

And last I saw Kyo is still fighting and training as well. With the new anime and games he's been in and going to be in he's been rather busy.

Continued in next post..

Continued from my last post

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Terry and Andy are close yes...hey they are brothers and brothers for the most part are suppose to have strong ties. Iori is always looking and trying to go after Kyo happy now?

LOL. Iori wants to find Kyo because he wants to defeat him not be his lover -_^

Originally posted by P-Geyser
I know the reason behind Kyo and Iori being invented it's on playmores site for christ sakes! You happen to leave something out KOF 94 had The Fatal Fury and Japan team on the cover and if you look at the button commands, it shows Terry and Ryo. Kyo would not have had the star status had it not been for FF,AOF,IK,PS characters appear in KOF...sorry to disagree but it would not happen.

LOL You are right about '94 face off cover with Kyo team and Terry team but it doesn't really matter much as Kyo was still the most prominently featured and was the main character of the game. I remember Kyo also quickly became a fan favorite as well as Athena. Altho GD, RNK, IF and PS characters were in KOF I dont think it was for the reason of them specifically thinking it would help Kyo rather I think they were there more for KOF to be the definitive SNK game encompassing characters from ALL SNK games. In this sense KOF is the Main game and by extent Kyo being the Main hero of the KOF games in general only serves to put him above all other characters in the storyline.

As for Kyo being a star because of the other characters I dont think so. I think the other characters were there more for the sake of establishing Kyo and Japan team as the Main characters of the SNK universe. Think about it. you bring in other well established characters from other games to have them all dish it out in this tournament and you also introduce a new Main hero as well? Looks like SNK wanted to prove more that Kyo is not a pushover and can hold his own quite well against the Best there is. Content on the Playmore site supports this.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
And is your opinion the word of GOD?!...really is your opinion the word of the almighty.

Nope. but I use facts to support my argument while you're just blasting your opinion as tho it was fact. There's a BIG difference.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
I never said for anyone to agree with me. I dont go around telling people what I say is right as some other people on this board.

Oh yeah? You may not have said it that way but Calling ppl names and saying this character is a "washout" or this guy is a "snot nosed brat" you could have fooled me.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
How many times are you going to keep babling on about the merchandise?

If you didn't know, Merchandise is a HUGE part of the game industry and a great way to know what companies are focusing on. In other words, the more popular the character, the more merchandises there is for that character. After all you want to get fans to spend their hard earned cash on those items. Of course the less merchandise the less popular.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
From where I am and other places I dont see that many Kyo fans around. I see more Terry fans. There are more Iori fans so you dont have to open your mouth about that.

LOL. Terry is very popular specifically among ppl in their mid to later twenties since they grew up on GD and have fond memories of playing Terry and crew. Iori is just simply Insane, He's got Legions of Male and female fans. Kyo is also very popular. The fans are around you. You probably just dont get a chance to talk to them.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
As odd as it is I see more Ash fans than Kyo fans just by looking at plenty of fan fics.

Ash is the current obsession with many Fanfic writers since he's new and not much is known about him. Being as most fanfics are written by female fans (Especially Yaoi) I'd definetly say that Ash would be a Very popular character among the female fans. As for Iori and Kyo there are Tons of fanfics (Especially Iori), again you just have to look.

KOF to me is not the same anymore it's just a bunch of bunk The Kyo and Iori and Orochi deal is getting tiring. [/B][/QUOTE]

LOL You just proved my points with this statement.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Blind love for Terry? get off your ****ing high horse seriously. Terry is my favorite SNK character and I like other characters as well but you want to come in here taking shots at me for defending him to another poster saying ridiculos and stupid things and

LOL. That other poster is just corecting you and trying to cure you of your blindness. His point is that Kyo is the main hero of the SNK universe and he is. I swear Terry fans are like Rock Lee fans they are so in love with Terry to the point they even forget the devlopments of the story and the place of the character. They bring up points that dont prove anything and even use their own opinion as the basis for an argument. They are so insulted by Kyo because he's the new Hero and they take it so much to heart they even take it out on the ppl they debate with.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Hello old news everyone knows about KOF anime and to be honset not sure if it's going to do well.

Why? Because Terry is not the main character?? LOL

I'm sure it will do very well.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Also the reason why Terry and Ryo are constantly shadowed is playmore's doing I admit it...it makes me want the old SNK...they rely too damn much of KOF.

You have proved my point once again about Terry fans. In other words you are saying you are living in the past and cant move on. You are still living in the days when it was just Fatal Fury and Art of fighting Before KOF. Dude you're in denial Terry is no longer the hero of the SNK universe. if you want to live in the past, that's fine but dont come in here and start insulting other characters and people because you cant move on and get with the times.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
"Is this your poor closure to your argument??"

Mr analytical oh boy.

-_^

Originally posted by brainchild81
No. Rock's a fictional character, just like Terry. I get that. Why don't you?
😆 Dude seriously, you're gonna look back at this thread someday and have a good laugh @ yourself. All I hear from you is "Waaah! I want Terry to be the star again. Waaah!Rock's a carbon copy. Waaah! I hate Iori and Kyo so I'll call them gay(Somebody's a little too interested in the sex life of 2 male videogame characters😘) Waaah! Chickens**t flames! Waaah! Why won't SNK listen to me!? Waaah! I feel a need to downrate other characters in order to make Terry look cool again. Waaaah! If you disagree I'll resort to name calling. " Seriously dude, you come off as a 10 year old throwing a fanboy tantrum. Just relax. Terry used to be the star a long time ago. You know this already. Between Ash & Kyo it's debatable, but Terry is definitely out of the equation.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Terry Bogard (ƒeƒŠ[Eƒ{ƒK[ƒh) is a video game character created by SNK, and is the main character of the Fatal Fury series. For a short time, he was also the mascot of SNK
50yen's not on a high horse. He's trying to help you realize how small minded you're presenting yourself as. I disagree w/him about Ken Vs Terry, but I'm not gonna call him a noob or "polooka". That's beneath me and it would only serve to make me look like a fanboy.

Hey BC

I think Ken is tough. I am more of a Ryu fan but I give Ken his respect. At his best if you count Manga and anime, he even beat Gill ( in a very well respected comic ). The only thing bad about Ken is that he is often overshadowed by Ryu since Ryu is the main character and all we dont really get to see Ken do much. I think if you count Ken at his best vs Terry at his best it could really go either way. We both know the Godlike Gill is no pushover indeed Gill is one of the MOST powerful Characters -_^

Wrong forum.

Moving

Originally posted by jinzin
ken gets thrashed by vega.. IMO MARS GOD OF WAR>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vega...

terry>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mars.... hmmmmmmmmm

Originally posted by P-Geyser
I know they are fictional characters wiseguy. "Why wont SNK listen to me...waahhh!" where on this forum have I have that?...get real man. That show's how immature you are as well. You seem to come off a person who has no idea of what they are saying especially when it comes to characters such as Terry and Ryo.

I am sorry but Ash and Kyo...well in honesty I could carless about that rivarly and Terry will always be debatable. You are also telling me old news with Wiikipedia since I go to that site alot.

Small minded...nah. I admit I was calling you those names seeing how so seem to say ridiculos stuff "Terry's hat flies off and gets burned to a crisp" since you seem to ask me why I say immature stuff about Kyo and Iori what are you reasons for saying immature stuff about Terry and Ryo as well. Other than "Ryo is a Ripoff Terry is a hasbeen"

--NESTS plan meeting--
Chief Scientist # 1: Let's clone the best fighter and unleash him on the World!! Hahahaha!
#2:We're cloning Terry Bogard?
#1:Hahahaha! Funny joke. Seriously I mean Kyo Kusa--
#2:I wasn't joking.
#1: *Takes a gun out of his lab coat and shoots #2 in the face for his ignorance* WHAT PART OF "BEST" DIDN'T HE COMPREHEND?!

Ryo is truly a ripoff of the SF shotos. Don't deny it. Look @ him. Look @ his moves. F**k it, just look @ his name. Why do you think Dan was created?

Just because Kyo is the flagship character of the snk crossover series, doesnt mean hes the best fighter or most powerful. Terry would beat Kyop lain and simple. Hed also beat Ken.

Originally posted by brainchild81
I'm not being immature. I have a need to tell the truth. Terry used to be the main man and kick everybody's a$$. Not anymore.

--NESTS plan meeting--
Chief Scientist # 1: Let's clone the best fighter and unleash him on the World!! Hahahaha!
#2:We're cloning Terry Bogard?
#1:Hahahaha! Funny joke. Seriously I mean Kyo Kusa--
#2:I wasn't joking.
#1: *Takes a gun out of his lab coat and shoots #2 in the face for his ignorance* WHAT PART OF "BEST" DIDN'T HE COMPREHEND?!

Ryo is truly a ripoff of the SF shotos. Don't deny it. Look @ him. Look @ his moves. F**k it, just look @ his name. Why do you think Dan was created?

Originally posted by jrodslam
Just because Kyo is the flagship character of the snk crossover series, doesnt mean hes the best fighter or most powerful. Terry would beat Kyop lain and simple. Hed also beat Ken.

Originally posted by brainchild81
@ least you're admitting Kyo is the flagship guy.

Marvel's flagship character is most likely Spiderman or Wolverine. And we know that that just means they are the most popular, but they are certainly not the most powerful. Or the best fighters.

That's why I said "@ least" Cresh. Too many people were denying it just because they'd prefer Terry. Don't worry. I'm halfway there. I'll eventually prove all my points(That Terry's been overrated because of those lousy Fatal Fury movies, that Kyo'd murder him and that Ken would also) or just keep repeating myself 'til people get tired and give up.🙂

Originally posted by Creshosk
He is. But that doesn't mean he's the most powerful/best fighter.

Marvel's flagship character is most likely Spiderman or Wolverine. And we know that that just means they are the most popular, but they are certainly not the most powerful. Or the best fighters.

That may be how Marvel is but Kyo is not the Flagship character because he's the most popular. There are other characters who are more popular. Kyo is not the Most Powerful character in all of SNK but he is definetly the Most powerful when it comes to all the modern day SNK heroes like Terry, Ryo and K'

Now, if we go into Samurai Spirits and Gekka no Kenshi that would be a whole different story.

Originally posted by 50YEN
That may be how Marvel is but Kyo is not the Flagship character because he's the most popular. There are other characters who are more popular. Kyo is not the Most Powerful character in all of SNK but he is definetly the Most powerful when it comes to all the modern day SNK heroes like Terry, Ryo and K'

It's either based on Power or it's not.

It makes more sense for it to be based on poularity since that's how everyone else does it. Why wouldn't you have your most popular character be the representitive face of your company?

Hmm?

Originally posted by brainchild81
When has Vega beat Ken?

once in sf II V
and once in the new comics regarded as the canon story by capcom...

Originally posted by brainchild81
That's why I said "@ least" Cresh. Too many people were denying it just because they'd prefer Terry. Don't worry. I'm halfway there. I'll eventually prove all my points(That Terry's been overrated because of those lousy Fatal Fury movies, that Kyo'd murder him and that Ken would also) or just keep repeating myself 'til people get tired and give up.🙂

brainchild u really think terry is overrated because of the movies?

i mean like the guy said ken got finish by vega {U.S name is m.bision}
and bision is no where near the lvl of mars.

and the thing bout kyo killing terry please man where did u get that idea

Originally posted by brainchild81
That's why I said "@ least" Cresh. Too many people were denying it just because they'd prefer Terry. Don't worry. I'm halfway there. I'll eventually prove all my points(That Terry's been overrated because of those lousy Fatal Fury movies, that Kyo'd murder him and that Ken would also) or just keep repeating myself 'til people get tired and give up.🙂

"Overrated because of the movies"

There's got to be more to it than that. Because do you deny that in the movie he beat the god of war?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Oh so Kyo is the flagship character because he's the most powerful. . but he's not the most powerful. Way to cotradict yourself.

It's either based on Power or it's not.

It makes more sense for it to be based on poularity since that's how everyone else does it. Why wouldn't you have your most popular character be the representitive face of your company?

Hmm?

Kyo is the Flagship character because he is the most featured and he is from Osaka which is the base of Neo Geo world -_^ He was created intetionally to be the flagship character from the beginning. It didn't happen over time and SNK didn't just suddenly decided to make him the flagship because of his popularity.

And Iori, Nakoruru and Athena are a ways more popular than Kyo. Yet Kyo is still the flagship. I'd say in this case your statement of being the most popular and the strongest is invalid in this case.