Originally posted by overlord
The clone of Luuke was called Luuuke and his clone was called Luuuuke, but Sidious didn't like that idea.And then there was vaader and vaaader and vaaaader and vaaaaader and vaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaader!!!!!!! Hurray!!
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yeah and there could of been a ST if Luke turned evil. But then why would it be called Return Of The Jedi? It would be called something like The New Emperor or The Ultimate Choice. But it wasn't ROTJ is end. Not bell end, END!!! No more, after all SW is about Anakin who died at ROTJ so forget about this thread.
i think anything more, inmcluding this tv show, would and WILL just kill the Star Wars legacy. what kinda show is this gonna be? HBO style or somewhere on TBS between Friends re-runs and Everybody Loves Raymond? Gimmie a break. To quote someone, "It's overkill". and just shouldn't be done. The story is about Anakin/Vader, not what luke does, so anything beyond the death of Anakin would just be detrimental to the story. The only thing i wish LFL would of done different, is start Ep1 around the time of Ep2 when anakin is older and already a padawan, then progress form there, and have half of Ep3 be the Jedi Purges. I dont know, i just believe that chapters 7-9 are better left in the books, not in the "mainstream canon films".
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Err, it already DOES end at the end. ROTJ was the end. There is no more.There are no benefits at all to a sequel trilogy because the film storyline is done with. It's an even more terrible mistake to think that basing it off the EU is a good idea.
Yes, eps 4 - 6 were squished, and sure, the Anakin story arc is over. We all know that. But I personally felt there was a great richness which could have been explored in Luke's journey to full Jedihood and Jedi trainer which we were ripped off. This, Gary Kurtz has revealed, was originally to have been explored. If further Luke etc. adventures were acceptable as books, why not movies? They needn't be official sequels. Then there are people who (for some unknown reason) are quite happy to see movies or tv versions of EU Star Wars with other characters, but wave the purist stick in the air at any mention of sequels involving Luke Han and Leia! That's pretty nuts, if you ask me.
There would be major problems if 7, 8, and 9 were made. Lucas definetly would not base his movies off of EU, which fills every void for at least 30 years after ROTJ.
I mean HUGE continuity problems there, it would destroy the thing entirely.
Not to mention that, the large majority of people would be sick and tired of SW movies by then. The PT were nothing compared to their predecessors, and a Sequel Trilogy would be the guillotine for SW.
Vader was in or based in, every single movie so far, by making ST, you cut him out of this comfortable little loop.
There's just too many negative variables to consider in terms of a sequel.
With all due respect, the reason I disagree with that is that, as I said, it needn't be an official sequel trilogy (I just used the terms 7-9 as a catchphrase). The other thing is, I envisaged Lucas would farm out the property to some other director. There's no way he'd be interested in directing. What I'm suggesting is a straight movie version of the Zahn sequence.
As to people being sick of Star Wars by then, I think that's very unlikely. Don't you think that's for them to decide? Do you speak for all Star Wars fans? Well the answer to that is of course no. If anything, many Star Wars fans have been feeling starved for a very very long time. And as they would just be Zahn movie adaptations, they're not Star Wars canon as such, the original couplet of trilogies stays intact, honour is satisfied, everyone's happy.
The next thing I address which you mentioned is continuity. In a forward moving story, there are far less continuity problems to consider (in fact, as Anakin's story is left behind, which is the very thing you're complaining about, wouldn't that mean there ARE no continuity problems?), unless someone has a child in earlier episode or there is some origin issue which will have later repercussions. And if there are such issues to reincoporate into the scripts, then so be it. A writer can take care of that. That's called writing; that's what writers do. And as to said contintuity problems, to what continuity problems are you referring? I think that's just something you pulled out of you hat to justify being a sequel czar.
Believe me, I'm a purist too.. I'd just love to get some kind of payoff for waiting to see Luke in action for again for so long, even if it was just one movie condensed story.
Originally posted by overlord
The clone of Luuke was called Luuuke and his clone was called Luuuuke, but Sidious didn't like that idea.And then there was vaader and vaaader and vaaaader and vaaaaader and vaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaader!!!!!!! Hurray!!
Wow.. I'm so funny today..
Originally posted by Pondo Booboo
With all due respect, the reason I disagree with that is that, as I said, it needn't be an official sequel trilogy (I just used the terms 7-9 as a catchphrase). The other thing is, I envisaged Lucas would farm out the property to some other director. There's no way he'd be interested in directing. What I'm suggesting is a straight movie version of the Zahn sequence.As to people being sick of Star Wars by then, I think that's very unlikely. Don't you think that's for them to decide? Do you speak for all Star Wars fans? Well the answer to that is of course no. If anything, many Star Wars fans have been feeling starved for a very very long time. And as they would just be Zahn movie adaptations, they're not Star Wars canon as such, the original couplet of trilogies stays intact, honour is satisfied, everyone's happy.
The next thing I address which you mentioned is continuity. In a forward moving story, there are far less continuity problems to consider (in fact, as Anakin's story is left behind, which is the very thing you're complaining about, wouldn't that mean there ARE no continuity problems?), unless someone has a child in earlier episode or there is some origin issue which will have later repercussions. And if there are such issues to reincoporate into the scripts, then so be it. A writer can take care of that. That's called writing; that's what writers do. And as to said contintuity problems, to what continuity problems are you referring? I think that's just something you pulled out of you hat to justify being a sequel czar.
Believe me, I'm a purist too.. I'd just love to get some kind of payoff for waiting to see Luke in action for again for so long, even if it was just one movie condensed story.
Do you realise they are 'ordinary' people in this world. People that grew up on the OT yet rather disliked the PT because it IS crap. People have grown sick of 3 crap Star Wars movies in a row (this IS the general opinion) and they would not buy into a new trilogy after the sucky PT.
Originally posted by exanda kane
Do you realise they are 'ordinary' people in this world. People that grew up on the OT yet rather disliked the PT because it IS crap. People have grown sick of 3 crap Star Wars movies in a row (this IS the general opinion) and they would not buy into a new trilogy after the sucky PT.
You're speaking to a veteran, kid. I'm a purist, but I'm also open minded. PT is crap? That's just your opinion. You could use a little humility. Just tell me your opinion and I'll respect it even if I don't agree.
By the way, I'm a little unnerved that you think being "ordinary" is a virtue. "Only Sith think in such absolutes."
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Wow. You are a purist, open minded veteran who has been here since november..
Actually, you can't give an unbiased statement about the prequels because you are a fan. Years ago when I took my (non-SW fan)friends to TPM they couldn't make any sense of it. This is the case with a lot of people.
Although I am a fan and it's hard for me to see what is wrong with them I think it's because there is just too freaking much stuff happening in TPM and the lack of explaning what the hell was going on wich was the case in ANH. And AotC.. Well.. That one was just poorly written.
But as long as you know that we like them. Although we are able to express criticism and have at least some amount of insight to the overall story we actually don't hate them.
I hope this finals the same conflict started everywhere about the prequels. They just could have been better, no matter what opinion.
Originally posted by Joli Bug-AziAfter 16 years, I think he made the movies for himself. His satisfaction that he finished what he started. He made the movies he wanted to make, not what his fans wanted to see. Everyone else can deal with that. I know if I made movies, I wouldn't want to change my movie to what I feel would be shit, just because I get petty emails and blogs written that I destroyed their childhood, etc.... nobody forced anyone to watch them. If you heard bad things and didn't want to ruin your IV-VI experience, then you shouldn't have watched them.
Too true. I'm sick of listening to people complain about how the PT is of less quality that the OT and that Lucas sold out, that Lucas failed, that Lucas is an idiot. Anyone would begin to have enough of that!
I see Lucas making I-III not to entertain everyone's requests, but to entertain his own ideas of finishing what he had started. He was so stressed bringing the OT to life, that now he can do whatever he wants, and he did just that, no matter how silly or stupid people see them as. He's happy with his movies, and really? That should be all he cares about. I know I would. It's a plus that people like them, and there are cults and followings, for sure, but cults or not, they would've turned out the same.
I see Lucas making I-III not to entertain us, but to entertain him? Sorry, but I can't agree with that. 😬
If you look at TPM and ROTS, you can see that he pulled out everything he had to entertain the viewer. It wasn't as much about the plot anymore but more about as much spectacular scenes as possible to entertain the masses.
Of course the motives to doing that are very obscure because he doesn't need the money I think.. But it happened nonetheless.
Only AotC was a serious attempt at making a good movie. Yet it failed miserably..
But let's all just go back on topic instead of starting the same discussions everywhere.
And he didn't care if you took it or not, that's what his vision was, and he was sticking with it, despite reviews through the years. He said he went back to finish them for himself in interviews, not for fans. I meant entertain figuratively, he entertained the idea not from fans, but because he wanted to finish what he started. Sorry, didn't make that clear.
I was simply responding to posts from earlier in the thread. You like pretending to be a mod, don't you? Here are the quotes, if it makes you feel better.
Originally posted by OB1-adobe
I couldn't sit through another 3 movies and six years listnening to fan boys complain how Lucas fuked up, and critics say "well, they're okay, not as good as the originals though."Oh god did that shit get old
Originally posted by Joli Bug-Azi
Too true. I'm sick of listening to people complain about how the PT is of less quality that the OT and that Lucas sold out, that Lucas failed, that Lucas is an idiot. Anyone would begin to have enough of that!