isnt that celestial/watcher battle in an alternate reality? i didnt think they had any on panel battles in the 616 universe... i could be wrong i suppose. and the reason the watchers can even attempt to battle the celestials is because they outnumber them heavily?
also, marvel has stated that galactus is ON PAR with a watcher and the enigmatic stranger in terms of raw power. the same news letter also put the celstials above them all... food for thought 😉
Originally posted by Wynndar
No...it was 616...read F4 #400True about Galactus being compared to the stranger. But he has more consistently been considered one of the three most fundamental characters in the 616 universe along with Eternity and Death.
galactus once asked death if "it" was there to take him away... to which it replied it wasnt his time. does that sound like galactus is "its" equal?? in the infinity gauntlet saga, eternity said that LT was the only one he considered his peer... and isnt "considered" something along the lines of speculation? doesnt hold any more water than the theories that you claim the celestials are eternity will manifested physically... pure speculation.
I personally believe that exitar being defeated by IW was PIS to be honest, exitar could of beaten her easily, but otherwise the comic would longer be fantastic four, but fantastic three.
Also if you read the infinity gauntlet, you'll see Galactus in awe as Thanos destroys two celestials with ease, portraying that celestials are indeed very powerful if hes in awe of such a feat. Personally I would give it to exitar, he once changed a whole planet into paradise and made everyone bad on that planet to disappear with a blink, thats a pretty high feat if you ask me.
In the comic, Eternals 18 (I think that's the right number), the Deviants were able to destroy a single Celestial with their tech. by turning one into pure energy. On the other spectrum, the forces of Earth heroes, Shi'ar, Kree, etc. had to turn to Galactus' own machinations to do the same and had to separate his energy to prevent him from reforming.
Originally posted by KillAll
isnt that celestial/watcher battle in an alternate reality? i didnt think they had any on panel battles in the 616 universe... i could be wrong i suppose. and the reason the watchers can even attempt to battle the celestials is because they outnumber them heavily?
The thing about that "616 continuum" battle is I believe it was noted that it took Exitar thousands of years to accumulate enough power to destroy the "One" Watcher (who was a supposedly accelerating the end of the universe). Give Galactus that same sceanario and I think he would have no trouble just absorbing him (I'm not sure if that's a valid power comparison though).
galactus once asked death if "it" was there to take him away... to which it replied it wasnt his time. does that sound like galactus is "its" equal??
I'm not sure what you mean. I remember a FF comic whereby after Galactus began having doubts of taking worlds with sentient life that he was approached by Death, who told him that it wasn't his time to be taken away by her. As to them being equal, in that same scenario, they refer to each other as siblings (I think Galactus said, "my mother, sister, daughter" all together). In a Silver Surfer comic, Galactus is approached by Eternity and they acknowledge each other with respect.
Galactus: "All hail Eternity"
Eternity "Hail might Galactus"
(someting like that)
During their conversation in that comic, Eternity refers to the Celestials as his agents.
Originally posted by Maestro
Also if you read the infinity gauntlet, you'll see Galactus in awe as Thanos destroys two celestials with ease, portraying that celestials are indeed very powerful if hes in awe of such a feat. Personally I would give it to exitar, he once changed a whole planet into paradise and made everyone bad on that planet to disappear with a blink, thats a pretty high feat if you ask me.
In the Infinity Gauntlet, Galactus never makes a comment about the Celestials' battle with Thanos. Thanos does, however, destroy a Celestial in I believe in Infinity Abyss where Galactus comments about it.
Originally posted by KillAll
galactus once asked death if "it" was there to take him away... to which it replied it wasnt his time. does that sound like galactus is "its" equal?? in the infinity gauntlet saga, eternity said that LT was the only one he considered his peer... and isnt "considered" something along the lines of speculation? doesnt hold any more water than the theories that you claim the celestials are eternity will manifested physically... pure speculation.
The living tribunal said something like this
Eternity, Death, Galactus operates as a middle man keeping the balancing of Life and death
Chaos , Order , In-betweener keeps the balance of Order and Chaos
galactis may hold a more important place in the order of things, that doens't mean he is necessarily more powerful. feat wise, the celestials blow galactus away. based on what they've done (not what's been said and surmised about them) exitar would win this battle, and unless g was at FULL power, i'd see him winning rather easily.
the only beings equal or more powerful than galactus are eternity, infinity,death,oblivion and the living tribunal
Eternity was an abstract, relatively omnipotent entity representing all life in the universe. The entity was part of a small cosmic pantheon that represented the three essential forces in the universe, being equity, necessity and vengeance.
In the Earth-616 universe these beings are:
Equity - Galactus
Necessity - Eternity / Infinity
Vengeance - Death / Oblivion
Eternity and Infinity were in effect twin concepts, as they represent all time (Eternity) and space (Infinity) in the universe respectively. Eternity and the other cosmic beings were only surpassed by the Living Tribunal, the being that governed the multi-verse
Originally posted by Maestro
I personally believe that exitar being defeated by IW was PIS to be honest, exitar could of beaten her easily, but otherwise the comic would longer be fantastic four, but fantastic three.
Also if you read the infinity gauntlet, you'll see Galactus in awe as Thanos destroys two celestials with ease, portraying that celestials are indeed very powerful if hes in awe of such a feat. Personally I would give it to exitar, he once changed a whole planet into paradise and made everyone bad on that planet to disappear with a blink, thats a pretty high feat if you ask me.
You sure it was Infinity Gauntlet I remember that from Marvel: The End
Like with all threads regarding Galactus and Celestials. Its ur own choice who wins or loses
For me, Exitar wins
For my Galactus friends, G wins
That's cool
IMO, the scan shown is vague. Better scan is in the Heroes Reborn tale when Ashema takes the world in her and the Celestials come and Eternity is at the end
Celestials come and gather
Celestials and Eternity connection
Appears to be a retcon as the Brothers who wrote the latest Eternals have the Fulcrum in connection with the Celestials and Watchers