In response to the "Police the Police" bullcrap. I used to live in Louisiana, I have been to New Orleans many times. And to be honest a lot of those people are the LOWEST of LOW, they are the WORST in our entire society. Im not being mean or trying to start up and argument im just stating the facts.
Originally posted by Neo_Version 7
If I knew all these big words and ideas, it'd be pretty cool to go against the moderators.Closest thing to actual fist-fighting with these guys.
Absolutely no logic behind that.
Basically, it'd be fun to debate with someone with power here, just because they have power. Even though it has no bearing on the level to which they can debate.
-AC
Good Christ, Whob. There isn't actually anything to your argument at all other than "I have a right to say things and you do not."
That's pitiful. Only in your wildest dreams have you ever come up with an argument that began to stand up to anything I said- and you will note that no-one else believes your egomaniacal ravings.
Until you do as I asked- and actually provide some sort of actual evidence that the problem is as big as you say, and not in fact getting better- then the value of what you say is zero. It's just you grandstanding and expecting everyone to value your opinion higher than anyone else's, despite the fact you are continuously lacking in logic, rationality, and brainpower behind an argument.
(And in reference to your links, no-one else sees you 'owning' anybody; only spouting more crap)
Most hilarious of all are your claims of objectivity- when to anyone with a brain cell reading your arguments, you are clearly biased against the police. And in arguing that you have superior experience that gives you the lowdown on this- something you have given no-one any real reason to believe, nor have you actually given a good reason as to why whatever particualar and limited experiences you have had trumps everyone elses, or indeed any other argument regardless of its rationality or logtic (your own logic seems to be 'doesn't matter what you say, it doesn't count because I say so"😉...
... you sink your own point there, because if it is entirely based on your 'experiences' it is, by definition, subjective.
You're in the nursery, whob. Try again when you can debate like an adult, and not try to shut everyone else's argument down by sheer fiat.
Originally posted by BackFire
The net? Oh, you mean like the Geocities references you were leaning on in that Creationism/science thread? Your hypocrisy is grand.OMG LOL OWNED ROFL LOL111!!!11. -Does it look good to you when I do that? Because it sure doesn't when you do, but then again, acting like a child and patting yourself on the back during a debate because no one else will rarely does.
And that's the difference between myself on many others who post on this board...I don't need a bunch of cronies or stooges to validate what I say, nor do I go about seeking yours/others approvals when a topic is presented. The only thing you've done in yet another argument is demonstrate that you yourself are nothing more than another "stooge" who participates in "groupthink" mentality, and that you have no ability to present opinions/arguments that don't fit within the general "liberalistic" viewpoints that embody this forumn.
The fact that you use the word "owned" in relation to a debate you've had only reinforces the factuality of your poor debating skills, which have been on display, and pointed out numerous times, since you've joined this site.
Your personal opinion of my "debating skills" does little to validate anything other than your inability to address the arguments that I've presented in this thread. Once again in typical BF fashion, you've done nothing but attack the arguer, rather than the argument.
We're now at BF post number 2, and as all can clearly see, you have yet again done little to present any relevant information which pertains to the topic at hand, and I sincerely doubt that you even carry the intellect necessary to do so.
Also, you haven't answered my question beyond the classic whob move of dodging it. But I'll try and simplify it the best I can for you, and you do your best to give me a valid, relevent, unflawed and, maybe, just maybe, a straight forward response, okay? Okay. Damn
And in classic Backfire style, you've proven your inablitity to produce a reasonable argument against any reasonable argument presented. But we can play your little game if you like. As one can see from the link below, you criticizing anyone's use of punctuation and grammar on this forumn is like the pot calling the kettle black..
BF interpretation of "Creationalist's"...lol
"Creationalist"...lol...
For those of you who don't know..that's how BF spells "Creationist."
Are you saying that for an opinion to be valid in this subject, someone must have had a negative police experience or lived in a shitty, crime ridden town?
Originally posted by whobdamandog
Unfortunately, not every solution to a problem can be derived from what's written in a textbook or what you've learned from your University Civics Class. In fact..much knowledge that we gain in life is received from the experiences that we go through.. I believe this type of knowledge is given the label "Practical."
Originally posted by whobdamandog
Reading books on Law and Justice will only get you so far my friend.. as I've stated once before to you, I will state to you once again, try to think OUTSIDE of the box..just once...
Originally posted by whobdamandog
My point has been that a valid opinion can not be formed solely on such information.
If you can't interpret what's already restated multiple times throughout this thread, then you are a lost case my friend. It's fairly obvious that explaining it again will not help you. Perhaps you should participate in a topic that involves simpler subject matter.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Good Christ, Whob. There isn't actually anything to your argument at all other than "I have a right to say things and you do not."That's pitiful. Only in your wildest dreams have you ever come up with an argument that began to stand up to anything I said- and you will note that no-one else believes your egomaniacal ravings.
Yes Christ is good my friend..Unfortunately your debating skills are not. Once again..your narrow minded rationale disables you from seeing anything outside of the orb in which you exist. Perhaps if you actually took the time to comprehend the argument presented before yourself instead of just blasting on about how much you've studied, then you would understand that my argument has centered around the following point...
Originally posted by whobdamandog
Unfortunately, not every solution to a problem can be derived from what's written in a textbook or what you've learned from your University Civics Class. In fact..much knowledge that we gain in life is received from the experiences that we go through..
Based on what you've informed us with during this debate, you have proven to have little practical experience involving Police Brutality in poor communities. How then can you justify yourself qualified to make an informed judgement regarding said problem based on this "inexperience" is perplexing..and quite "pitiful."
Until you do as I asked- and actually provide some sort of actual evidence that the problem is as big as you say, and not in fact getting better- then the value of what you say is zero. It's just you grandstanding and expecting everyone to value your opinion higher than anyone else's, despite the fact you are continuously lacking in logic, rationality, and brainpower behind an argument.
Do as you asked? The fact that you believe that others are required to submit to your juvenile requests is laughable, and proves your overall immaturity and naivety.
For the record..You've been given evidence..but you are to narrow minded to comprehend it. Your arguments are beginning to wane Ush..its quite apparent that you have nothing else to contribute to this debate other then typical "strawman" comments, which are always presented by those who have no substantive response to a valid argument.
Most hilarious of all are your claims of objectivity- when to anyone with a brain cell reading your arguments, you are clearly biased against the police. And in arguing that you have superior experience that gives you the lowdown on this- something you have given no-one any real reason to believe, nor have you actually given a good reason as to why whatever particualar and limited experiences you have had trumps everyone elses, or indeed any other argument regardless of its rationality or logtic (your own logic seems to be 'doesn't matter what you say, it doesn't count because I say so"😉...... you sink your own point there, because if it is entirely based on your 'experiences' it is, by definition, subjective.
You're in the nursery, whob. Try again when you can debate like an adult, and not try to shut everyone else's argument down by sheer fiat. [/B]
My arguments are supported by two things...
1. Studied Knowledge
2. Personal Experience
Your arguments are based on three things...
1. Studied Knowledge
2. Your ego
3. The "groupthinkers" who tag along and give you a "high five" each time you post some non sensical tripe.(ie Lana, Captain Flamboyant, and Backfire)
Before I close this debate.I implore of you my friend. Go out and study the world. Experience life and observe the experiences of others. Life is made of a multitude of people and experiences, not just the one's we regularly associate with and gather our information from.
Seriously, is that all you come can up with? I'll let the public be your judge. Once again, you have failed to support your arguments other than with more rhetoric. It's bull and everyone will see it as such. You can yell and whine and lash out all you like... but you're never actually adding anything to your argument, hence you continuously fail. What I asked you was not to 'submit to my judgement', but to actually try and do anything solid to substantiate your argument other than say 'I know it, so there." You say I am too narrow-minded to see it? NO-ONE can see it. You haven't given any. You have't actually given an argument to provide a response to, though any point you've made I have show down already, so all I can really do is hope you read my posts again and do it properly this time.
It doesn't get much more pitiful than this, guys.
And that's the difference between myself on many others who post on this board...I don't need a bunch of cronies or stooges to validate what I say, nor do I go about seeking yours/others approvals when a topic is presented. The only thing you've done in yet another argument is demonstrate that you yourself are nothing more than another "stooge" who participates in "groupthink" mentality, and that you have no ability to present opinions/arguments that don't fit within the general "liberalistic" viewpoints that embody this forumn.
Because NOTHING validates what you say because NOTHING you have said is backed up by anything valid. Your whole argument is based on your own limited and personal experience. Also, to generalize all of my opinions on matters as "liberalistic" is not only huge generalization, but a flawed, and factually incorrect one, at that.
Your personal opinion of my "debating skills" does little to validate anything other than your inability to address the arguments that I've presented in this thread. Once again in typical BF fashion, you've done nothing but attack the arguer, rather than the argument.We're now at BF post number 2, and as all can clearly see, you have yet again done little to present any relevant information which pertains to the topic at hand, and I sincerely doubt that you even carry the intellect necessary to do so.
Attack the arguer? You dare try to criticize me for "attacking" the arguer and then in the next post insult Captain Fantastic? Well done. You've been doing it the whole time you've been on this site, bringing up past arguments that you feel you've "owned" them in because you want to feel good about yourself and go about it in a very pathetic and sad manner. Not to mention the condescending attitude you often have towards those who disagree, which has no place in an adult debate. Yes, I attacked the arguer, the difference is, I did it for the sake of satire, I purposely did it to parody the juvenile way you continuously argue. You do it because that's just how you are. Big difference.
And in classic Backfire style, you've proven your inablitity to produce a reasonable argument against any reasonable argument presented. But we can play your little game if you like. As one can see from the link below, you criticizing anyone's use of punctuation and grammar on this forumn is like the pot calling the kettle black..BF interpretation of "Creationalist's"...lol
"Creationalist"...lol...
For those of you who don't know..that's how BF spells "Creationist."
Yes, I misspelled creationism, and you misspelled "damn". Which is worse?
If you can't interpret what's already restated multiple times throughout this thread, then you are a lost case my friend. It's fairly obvious that explaining it again will not help you. Perhaps you should participate in a topic that involves simpler subject matter.
Yes, simpler subject matter, because running around claiming you've "owned" people in arguments and posting links that are completely irrelevant to the thread takes such a grand intellect that I could only hope to obtain one day. Yeah, maybe back in fourth grade, kid.
Again, you're basing your thoughts on your LIMITED experience with the police. You know what? So is everyone else, which by default makes their opinion just as worthy and "valid" as yours since it's based on the same type of source. Their limited experience with the police is just as valid as yours. Again, your being hypocritical once again. I could go and link to other threads where you've been hypocritical and then post a bunch of dimwitted laughy faces afterwards and claim ownership over your.....but, well, I don't really want to be an idiot today.
Originally posted by whobdamandog
Captain Flamboyant
Insulting me doesn't make you right. I'm not flamboyant, at all. But, once again, you place your ingnorance on display for everyone. I very rarely "high-five" Ush...I don't need to.
However, you have assumed some closer relationship than exists. You're just mad because I verbalized you getting your naked ass spanked by him.