Nightwing vs batgirl

Who ever told you that needs to be slapped down. Batgirl can curbstomp Batman much less Nightwing.

Well the person who told me has alredy admitted it, so you may as well scroll up the page and the look for the spidey sig that says willrules.

Originally posted by olympian
What surprised me more in the last Dragon/Shiva fight was essentially two things.

He had Shiva down quickier than Cassie did. OTOH he knows her alot better.

And Dragon also knows the leopard blow. That was damn neat.

Spetznaz you also missed one in your list: Bronze Tiger. I place him above Connor -at least-. For those who think Batman is at least better than this guy?

He never lost against Batman. And he won once.

Actually Olympian, I remembered the fight between Bronze Tiger/Batman. That was the one which Kathy Kane dies right? I think you were refering where Batman was knocked out by BT but that was from behind. Later they fought again. But Bats was not only fighting BT but several of the league members also. BT later escaped with the sensei. Batman did well in that fight. How can you consider BT win?

You have scans? I think it was that one, but i dont remember if anyone died or not.

Both BT and Batman wer figthing others beyond themselves in that second match iirc, both teams wer involved, not only them.

Yeah, second face off between Bats and BT was the fair one at least. From what i remember, Batman was holding on against the more vicious BT. But kathy's death was the one that pushed Bruce for that stalemate. If only i had that issue now with me.

Ill try to get the scans if possible.

If not, at least more info on how both matchs went.

dont forget batman can do almost all the stuff they can do but constatenly holds back

Everyone holds back when they have to.

Anyway here are two of the fights he had with Bronze Tiger. There is one missing wich is the first where Batman lost.

This is the second match. Bronze Tiger prepares. ( he was with the league of assasines by then ).

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/3971/tigerskill1.jpg
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/9776/tigerskill2.jpg

Second match, on:

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/2375/batiger1.jpg
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/9849/batiger2.jpg
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/3967/batiger3.jpg
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/8091/batiger4.jpg
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/5397/batiger5.jpg
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/945/batiger6.jpg
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/9859/batiger7.jpg

And the third match.

http://img126.exs.cx/img126/2444/man0.jpg
http://img30.exs.cx/img30/1559/man5.jpg
http://img132.exs.cx/img132/2168/man2.jpg
http://img108.exs.cx/img108/4033/man3.jpg
http://img115.exs.cx/img115/1559/man5.jpg

All in all, the match is closer than i remembered. Altho i still mantain the position that Bronze Tiger always seems to have a slight skill edge over Batman.

If someone has the first match, post aye.

Absolutely no doubt Batgirl (Cass) would literally use Nightwing as a
training dummy. He simply wouldn't have a prayer.
A few things to consider about the portrayal of martial arts in comic
books and the media in general:
1) There is a tendency to show flashy techniques that have visual
appeal but are not effective against even a moderately skilled opponent in actual combat. Observe Batman's high kick in the last
fight against the Bronze Tiger. The higher the kick the more power
you lose and the more likely it is that the opponent will see it coming
and counter. The same applies in relation to jumping/flying
techniques and other fancy but ineffective acrobatic moves. Mobility
and great power are generated by being in contact with the Earth
(the ground - though the use of the word Earth is a clue to some of
the higher martial arts training that is not generally known).

2) Assassins are trained in the art of killing by stealth. As such their
training concentrates on (a) long range techniques using weapons (b)
supprise attacks using weapons and (c) deception/sleight of hand like
the use of poisons etc. There is a widely held misconception that they
are consummate masters of unarmed combat. They do receive some
unarmed combat training but they are not specialists in it & certainly
not highly skilled masters.

3) Turning your body into a finely tuned instrument/weapon is not
the realm of the assassin. It is a life long dedication devoted to
embracing the mystery of your being and essentially spiritual in
nature.

Take care & have fun for the journey of life passing in the blink of an
eye

Why are people responding based solely on H2H?

Wow this is an old thread bring's back the good old memories of the summer holidays and now the good soon to be old memories of the half term.

Nightwing is the leader of the outsiders he'll just call them to kick her ass and he'll just rellax and drink lemonade or shit shit

I think it's possible Nightwing could pull a win through some sort of trick or trap. I'd give him somewhere between 1 and 2 chances in 100.

If he just needed to delay her, his odds might go up to 3 chances in 10 (hey, he's avoided being completely outclassed by Deathstroke before).

I'd say NW the majority why?He's been fighting and beating people with super powers that make them more dangerous then Batgirl.He's stronger,faster, and more agile plus he's tougher.

There's a good chance that Batgirl's around Nightwing's level of strength. Compared to a normal human, she's about twice human norm.

She's definitely faster. She can dodge point blank shots and is said to be about four times human norm.

She's also tougher. She was shot by Cain as part of her training. Even Batman's not that nuts. NW got off easy in his training.