Superman Respect thread

Originally posted by Val-E-Doosh
Superman showing some courage against a Sun Eater. Survives a supernova while drained.

Also, the sun eater causes suns to supernova as it 'eats' them. Evidence in Final Night. Earths Sun was going to Supernova as a smaller Sun eater tried to eat it. This suggests the explosion had to be much greater in nearly all capacities, and with more force than that to destroy the sun eater.

Otherwise Superman probably could have used heat vision to down it, lolol.

edit, Superman also suggested this thing was going to destroy several starsystems in pretty much one swipe it seemed.

Originally posted by Juntai
For those times that someone says a character is going to mindrape Superman... Here's a few examples..

1) Brainiac 13: B 13 threw the fear of Earth's entire population into Superman's head -- Superman broke free of the attack within a panel or so. (Superman: Endgame TPB)

2) Despero: Despero had taken control of most of the JLA. He overtook bother Aquaman and J'onn Jonzz at the same time, but could not take Superman at all. (Pre-IC JLA issue)

3) Union: Union was the sum of billions of beings' mental strengths. He attacked Superman and Superman shrugged off his attack within a few panels and then beat down Union. (Superman in exile arc)

4) Neron: While in Hell, Neron attacked Superman's mind; Superman overcame it within a few panels. (Tie in to the Day of Judgment arc)

5) J'onn J'onzz: Superman throws J'onn J'onzz out of Superman's head. (Superman: King of the World). Mere contact with Superman's mind sends J'onn for a loop. (Superman: Where is Thy Sting) J'onn Jonzz states that his telepathy can not detect Superman if Superman does not wish to be detected.

6) Manchester Black: Black, a telepath so strong that not even J'onn could overcome the protection Black placed around Lex Luthor, had Superman believe that Lois was dead and that Superman had killed Black. Superman saw through the ruse and overcame Black's telepathic illusions. (Ending Battle)

7) The Fatal Five: Superman is attacked by the telepath of the Fatal Five. He resists her attack, pushing it back on her and taking her out.

8) Eclipso: Superman allows Eclipso into his head and then forces Eclipso out, just to see if he is strong enough mentally to do so. He then explains that, over the years, he has built up "a resistance to telepathy."

Nice, but there are examples of Supes being mentally controled (Max Lord for example) so it's not like he's immune, just of a higher mental resistance than most.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Nice, but there are examples of Supes being mentally controled (Max Lord for example) so it's not like he's immune, just of a higher mental resistance than most.

In either case, direct telepathic attack as far as I can recall, has never provided a definitive win over Superman. In fact, it usually barely works if at all, as my evidence suggests. And those are against some of DC's best telepathic users.

Also, in regards to the Max Lord example; J'onn explained that the key to Max's success was breaking down the psychic barrier that Supes put up after kiling Zod's crew. Since that killing was revamped, technically that weakness is gone.

Originally posted by Juntai
Actually, it's a bit more than a Supernova. Superman, who has the senses to know - said the Sun Eater was the size of a Nebula, which range from something like seven hundred to well over a thousand light years across.

Also, the sun eater causes suns to supernova as it 'eats' them. Evidence in Final Night. Earths Sun was going to Supernova as a smaller Sun eater tried to eat it. This suggests the explosion had to be much greater in nearly all capacities, and with more force than that to destroy the sun eater.

Otherwise Superman probably could have used heat vision to down it, lolol.

edit, Superman also suggested this thing was going to destroy several starsystems in pretty much one swipe it seemed.

So basically SUpes took a shot at point blank that would have destroyed several start systems.

Originally posted by Vally Doosh
Quiet, fool!

It should be mentioned however, that Kepler's Supernova, being 14 lightyears wide, is still growing today, so the size of this explosion was instantaneously 50 times the size of a 400 year old Supernova that continued to expand.

Also, this feat should put a little bit of context into how fast Superman can fly. Pa Kent had to be VERY far away.

Anyone has the scan were Superman fights Imperiax(the real one), not the probe. I have seen the other one with the probe it was awesome

I really think that Superman in any incarnation should be removed from the vs. arena here. It's not because of his power level or CIS or PIS, it's because he's Superman. When faced with a more powerful or intelligent foe, he will always find a way to win. This, as much as his strength or invulnerability is a part of his powerset. His indomitable spirit and unmatched willpower make him a celestial level being. Just watch this and you'll understand what I mean. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AckxOWz868k

Originally posted by Juntai
Actually, now that I do a little research, that actually comes up with a similar conclusion. Kepler's Supernova is 14 light years wide. Pa said it was 50 times that size, he actually came up with a similar number to the size of a nebula as compared to Kepler's Supernova. A nebula averaging around 1000 or so lightyears in span, and 50x14 being 700. Pa wasn't too far odd. Not bad from a naked eye.

It should be mentioned however, that Kepler's Supernova, being 14 lightyears wide, is still growing today, so the size of this explosion was instantaneously 50 times the size of a 400 year old Supernova that continued to expand.

Also, this feat should put a little bit of context into how fast Superman can fly. Pa Kent had to be VERY far away.

So exactly what size explosion did Supes soak?

Originally posted by The Great Galen
So exactly what size explosion did Supes soak?

So certainly a "solar system"Destroyed blast while weakened, not to bad but we all overlook it as a speed feat to. He did just fly under his own power afterall...although I forget how long the trip was stated as being and how far into space this occured.

So nobody has the scans of Superman Vs Imperiex(the real one)??

Originally posted by Juntai
6) Manchester Black: Black, a telepath so strong that not even J'onn could overcome the protection Black placed around Lex Luthor, had Superman believe that Lois was dead and that Superman had killed Black. Superman saw through the ruse and overcame Black's telepathic illusions. (Ending Battle)

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Overcame it?

I just wanna know, that scan where Superman is holding a blackhole, is it both a durability feat AND a strength feat?

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
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Overcame it?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Anyone has the scan were Superman fights Imperiax(the real one), not the probe. I have seen the other one with the probe it was awesome

the first time was when supes (at standard levels) and doomsday were shredding through numerous imperiex probes. imperiex prime then appears and casually dismisses them both.

the second instance was when superman was powered by kismet herself. he, along with several other powers, simultaneously attacked imperiex prime in hope of somehow rupturing his armor (which they did.) doing so allowed B13 to swoop in and absorb all of imperiex' entropic energies.

finally, a sun dipped superman encountered the consciousness/sentient energy of imperiex prime, just before pushing warworld through a boom tube to a point in time just before the big bang. once in this 'place', the powers of both B13 and imperiex were 'detonated' (essentially there were two different big bangs within the same space - obviously destroying those involved.)

anyhow, i'm pretty sure each happening can be found in the imperiex respect thread (if you're still looking, that is.)

It's been nearly a year, unforunately, I've read OWAW.
But thank you for replying. Yes, you are right, it in your respect thread

My last heroic deed on this board before I leave will be to revamp this thread.