Originally posted by batdude123
Hulk fanboys keep saying that Hulk has got a degree of superspeed and that we shouldn't underestimate his quickness. His quickness is close to nothing compared to Superman who can go at LIGHT speeds. Just in case the Hulk fanboys want to know, the speed of light is 186,000 miles per SECOND and that is 669,600,000 miles per hour. At best, Hulk runs about 400mph. That means that Superman is 1,674,000 times faster than Hulk!Hulk fanboys are also seaming to mention that Superman rarely uses his powers in a fight. That he just goes into a fist fight with his opponents. They seriously need to start reading more Superman. Superman does not like to hurt anybody regardless of who they are or what they've done. He just fights hard enough to disable his opponent regularly. However, if Superman feels that he cannot win a fight based on pure fighting, then he will go and use his powers to his fullest degree. He just likes to test people before he risks killing them. Superman could actually kill Hulk in h2h anyways. Since this is bloodlusted Superman anyway, we won't have to worry about him using his powers to the fullest potential.
There is also the arguement that Superman is not as strong as Hulk. First of all, Hulk's base strength is WAY below Superman's. Hulk would seriously have to get pissed for HOURS straight to come close. Second of all, Hulk has never demonstrated the kind of strength that Superman has. While Hulk fanboys think that him lifting a 150 billion ton mountain is so cool, Superman is pulling the moon. Even Post-Crisis Superman is holding black holes IN THE PALM OF HIS HAND! Let's see: Holding a black hole in the palm of your hand and pulling the moon>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lifting a mountain.
Hulk fanboys also have trouble understanding that Superman is just too damn versatile for Hulk to even survive this encounter for 10 seconds. While I believe Hulk's skin can withstand temperatures of up to 4000 degrees Celsius (I can't remember if it was Celsius or Fahrenheit. Correct me if I'm wrong.) Superman can make his heat vision incalcuably hot. Even scientists can't measure how hot his heat vision gets because it's just TOO DAMN HOT! Trust me, Superman has used his heat vision plenty in his encounters. Hulk would be burned to a crisp. He has also got ice breath which people seem to forget. Superman has easily frozen Wonder Woman with his ice breath when he didn't even want to deal with her. His ice breath is so grand, that it can freeze entire oceans. Superman also can vibrate his molecules intangible and invisible. Superman once again, has shown these feats numerous times.
In conclusion, to say that Hulk would win this fight is simply favoritism. There is absolutely no conceivable way that Hulk could win this fight. Like I was saying before, Superman wins 10/10.
Earlier you said you didn’t hate the Hulk and weren’t disrespecting his abilities. After reading this, I can’t help but think the opposite. Have you bothered to read up on the Hulks actual abilities? I don’t believe you have. And why do you place Superman in his “bloodlusted” state, yet you place the Hulk operating at power levels far lower than stated in the comics? If you’re willing to pick and chose which incarnation will be facing who, then why not have Mindless Hulk face off with Clark Kent in one of the issues where Superman temporarily loses his powers? I do believe any Superman fan would angrily denounce such a mismatched fight. If so, then aren’t Hulk fans similarly justified in denouncing this sort of mismatched showdown?
How fair is this?
You place the Hulk’s power levels unrealistically low and put him up against a bloodthirsty, murderous extremely powered up version of Superman? Even I agree that Superman would win, but this is being unreasonable.
No disrespect, huh?
Originally posted by Vile Profanity
Earlier you said you didn’t hate the Hulk and weren’t disrespecting his abilities. After reading this, I can’t help but think the opposite. Have you bothered to read up on the Hulks actual abilities? I don’t believe you have. And why do you place Superman in his “bloodlusted” state, yet you place the Hulk operating at power levels far lower than stated in the comics? If you’re willing to pick and chose which incarnation will be facing who, then why not have Mindless Hulk face off with Clark Kent in one of the issues where Superman temporarily loses his powers? I do believe any Superman fan would angrily denounce such a mismatched fight. If so, then aren’t Hulk fans similarly justified in denouncing this sort of mismatched showdown?How fair is this?
You place the Hulk’s power levels unrealistically low and put him up against a bloodthirsty, murderous extremely powered up version of Superman? Even I agree that Superman would win, but this is being unreasonable.
No disrespect, huh?
Dude, what the hell are you talking about? I'm putting Hulk in his most powerful state. Even though Hulk in his most powerful state could not and should not defeat an angry Supes. Superman is litterally 1,674,000 times faster than Hulk is. Give me that advantage alone over Hulk, and I'll destroy him.
Originally posted by Vile Profanity
Yep, and next it'll be Superman Prime versus Bruce Banner... paralyzed and in a wheelchair... with broken arms... and the flu.Dude. Honestly... 😬
Nope. The only way Bruce could win is if Superman is paralyzed and in a wheelchair... with broken arms... and the flu.
Dude, honestly... 😄 😛
Hulk can amp his strength, to infinity, extremely high durability as well....
So can Superman.
In fact, pretty much anything Hulk can do, Superman can do.
But the same is not true the other way around.
In fact, very much the opposite.
It doesn't matter how mad Hulk gets, really, any Hulk will be overcome by Superman, every time. He's simply too one dimension.
Originally posted by Juntai
Hulk can amp his strength, to infinity, extremely high durability as well....
So can Superman.
In fact, pretty much anything Hulk can do, Superman can do.
But the same is not true the other way around.
In fact, very much the opposite.It doesn't matter how mad Hulk gets, really, any Hulk will be overcome by Superman, every time. He's simply too one dimension.
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Originally posted by Juntai
Hulk can amp his strength, to infinity, extremely high durability as well....
So can Superman.
In fact, pretty much anything Hulk can do, Superman can do.
But the same is not true the other way around.
In fact, very much the opposite.It doesn't matter how mad Hulk gets, really, any Hulk will be overcome by Superman, every time. He's simply too one dimension.
Hulk curbstomps superman 10/10..............
Originally posted by S.S
BAh!!! Hulk's the strongest their is Superman is nothing.
Hulk lifted a mountain that was huge it took two whole pages that's how big it was........... 🙄Hulk curbstomps superman 10/10..............
LOL Hulk is trong he did lift a mountain then Superman came and blew it up and burried Hulk under its rubble! 😆
Well I know it’s kinda an old topic but the “dumb” Hulk has no limit onto the level of strength that he can get. Before the whole Marvel Vs. DC thing they did fight before and came down to pretty much a stalemate because they were trying to do the whole PC thing. Strength Vs. strength Superman is far stronger at base level and at base level Hulk is not the strongest Marvel character, Thor is not counting cosmic characters such as Captain Marvel.
Hulk, in his “angry” state can get stronger with each punch or hit, and with his ability to regenerate damage which superman doesn’t have he can go for a very long time. I think that it is over looked sometimes that the Hulk can regenerate most damage very rapidly (below the level of Wolverine) and can ignore most bodily damage and even nerve reception such as nerve strikes.
If it were just a punching fight, Hulk would win every time just because he doesn’t get tired and gets stronger with each hit. If you add in Superman’s other factors such as flying, heat vision and such then he brings more weapons to the table. However if you bring in the “Smart” Hulk and let him prepare then it would be like Batman Vs. Superman, that Batman did win if I remember right.
As a side note Superman is not faster then The Silver Surfer in space, he only flies that slow in an atmosphere. By using his board to exceed 99% of the speed of light (186,000 miles per second), the Surfer can shift himself into hyperspace, a dimension in which velocity is not limited by the speed of light.
Originally posted by ThePittmanSuperman's strength has no limit either, it goes up and up and up, along with the rest of his abilities. Even in a punching fight, and Supes just standing there, Hulk STILL goes down.
Well I know it’s kinda an old topic but the “dumb” Hulk has no limit onto the level of strength that he can get. Before the whole Marvel Vs. DC thing they did fight before and came down to pretty much a stalemate because they were trying to do the whole PC thing. Strength Vs. strength Superman is far stronger at base level and at base level Hulk is not the strongest Marvel character, Thor is not counting cosmic characters such as Captain Marvel.Hulk, in his “angry” state can get stronger with each punch or hit, and with his ability to regenerate damage which superman doesn’t have he can go for a very long time. I think that it is over looked sometimes that the Hulk can regenerate most damage very rapidly (below the level of Wolverine) and can ignore most bodily damage and even nerve reception such as nerve strikes.
If it were just a punching fight, Hulk would win every time just because he doesn’t get tired and gets stronger with each hit. If you add in Superman’s other factors such as flying, heat vision and such then he brings more weapons to the table. However if you bring in the “Smart” Hulk and let him prepare then it would be like Batman Vs. Superman, that Batman did win if I remember right.
As a side note Superman is not faster then The Silver Surfer in space, he only flies that slow in an atmosphere. By using his board to exceed 99% of the speed of light (186,000 miles per second), the Surfer can shift himself into hyperspace, a dimension in which velocity is not limited by the speed of light.
Superman also can go far beyond lightspeed.
Originally posted by Juntai
Superman's strength has no limit either, it goes up and up and up, along with the rest of his abilities. Even in a punching fight, and Supes just standing there, Hulk STILL goes down.
But in the end, counting all abilities, Hulk is just too one dimension for The Man of Steel.Superman also can go far beyond lightspeed.
I have never seen any mention of superman having no limit on his strength, as far as I know he can push himself beyond his limits but still has a limit. In an older comic Hulk Vs. Superman, Sups did the “Stand and nothing can hurt me” thing and Hulk kept pounding away at him and Sups realized that he wasn’t getting weaker but stronger and knew that he would be the first to break through this barrier.
For the Surfer, that what he does just to break into Hyperspace, he has no limit on his speed there. Considering it takes Superman days or weeks to travel to different planets it takes Surfer days to travel to Galaxies.
Originally posted by ThePittmanIt only shows how little you know of the character. Superman can fly between planets in a handfull of SECONDS.
I have never seen any mention of superman having no limit on his strength, as far as I know he can push himself beyond his limits but still has a limit. In an older comic Hulk Vs. Superman, Sups did the “Stand and nothing can hurt me” thing and Hulk kept pounding away at him and Sups realized that he wasn’t getting weaker but stronger and knew that he would be the first to break through this barrier.For the Surfer, that what he does just to break into Hyperspace, he has no limit on his speed there. Considering it takes Superman days or weeks to travel to different planets it takes Surfer days to travel to Galaxies.
As Superman gets upset, or stressed, he draws in more energy, and amplified all of his powers. Strength included. There has been shown no upper limit to this.
Originally posted by Juntai
It only shows how little you know of the character. Superman can fly between planets in a handfull of SECONDS.As Superman gets upset, or stressed, he draws in more energy, and amplified all of his powers. Strength included. There has been shown no upper limit to this.
"Super speed: The ability to move at an incredible speed, like the Flash. This includes running, but flying is less strenuous and more versatile. The earliest Superman ran at a mere 30 miles per hour, but quickly became much faster; by the 1950s, Superman became capable of flying through space at faster-than-light speeds, as well as travel through time. Post-Crisis, his top speed seems to be at or near the speed of light, and he can no longer travel through time under his own power. It has also been established that he is not as fast as the current incarnation of the Flash, Wally West, who can exceed the speed of light. Superman has had difficulty keeping pace when the Flash is running at the upper limits of his speed."