Originally posted by Up In Flames
if the flash really was that fast, that means he would be invincible. you wanna know why? because unless there's anyone faster than him, he'd be able to tear them to shreds in a microsecond. it would take him a second to run around the earth 750 times! there wouldnt be a flash comic to begin with if had this speed. its too exaggerated and blown way out of proportion. like einstein said, anything that travels at the speed of light becomes light. such a speed is impossible to reach. u callin me stupid? you'd fail a physics test if you ever allowed to sit one.
Dude, think OUTSIDE the box. When has real-world physics EVER aplied to comic books?????? 🤨 You can't use that as evidence because he has demonstrated it before. I know that it's impossible, hell almost everything in comics is impossible. Can a guy really fly and shoot lasers out of his eyes? Hell no! It's comic physics, you can't use real-world logic because it doesn't exist in comics. 😉
Originally posted by ThePittman
One last point is Doomsday, and as far as I know he is just a muscle bound fighter with no super speed and a great healing factor and killed superman. That sounds a lot like the Hulk to me, though Hulks regeneration is far superior.
Actually, Doomsday DID have superspeed because even Flash himself stated how he could not see him zipping by. For Flash to say that is quite a speed feat. In terms of speed, DD has Superman's speed, MUCH faster than Hulk. You still haven't answered how Superman is going to LET Hulk hit him because that would be the only way for Hulk to get a shot in. Saying that he can't see him but he could still hit him is ignorant. Superman is MUCH faster than Hulk, plus he can fly, plus he can go intangible and invisible. Superman is in no danger what so ever of being touch by Hulk. By the way, DD also has something that Hulk doesn't have; energy projection. 😉 That's another reason why Hulk would lose to Superman, because he's too one-dimensional. Here's a scan of DD using energy projection on Superman with him vibrating intangible right through it.
Originally posted by Up In Flames
if the flash really was that fast, that means he would be invincible. you wanna know why? because unless there's anyone faster than him, he'd be able to tear them to shreds in a microsecond. it would take him a second to run around the earth 750 times! there wouldnt be a flash comic to begin with if had this speed. its too exaggerated and blown way out of proportion. like einstein said, anything that travels at the speed of light becomes light. such a speed is impossible to reach. u callin me stupid? you'd fail a physics test if you ever allowed to sit one.
Well, it would seem that classical Einsteinian physics do not hold in the DC Universe in some cases (not very surprising as it is a comic book after all) as not certain speedsters such as the Flash but also Superman have been able to reach and exceed the speed of light without suffering the relativistic effects that we all know would apply in the real world.
While it is true that someone using the Flash's ability to their greatest potential would come very close to being truly invincible, you have to keep in mind that the actual characters themselves (ie Wally West, Bart, Barry, ect) are all human and as such all have imperfections and failings that can justify why they are not as powerful as they could be. However you feel about it, reaching the speed of light is a relatively common feat in comics.
Here's the scan you wanted of Superman vibrating invisible. The fact that you are trying to compare Superman, one of the MOST versatile characters in comics, to Hulk, who's very VERY uni-dimensional is laughable. Hell, Superman could even take him out using T-Vo which is a psychic attack that he could bust out on Hulk.
Yes I know that DC loves to break the laws of Physics, however they also keep them in mind as well because readers are getting smarter every day, well at least some of them. I know that DD has energy projection but my point is that is not what killed Sups but brute force which the Hulk has no limit. During their fight all of the bystanders could see them fight and that means they were not using their super speed. DD doesn’t also have the regeneration ability to the level of the Hulk either or gaining strength with levels of radiation.
Ok I forgot about the whole vibrate thing but that isn’t becoming invisible at all, plus if I remember right he has to be going normal speed to use. Also with him vibrating he would make noise that Hulks hearing could pick up so that really doesn’t mean much in this fight.
I’m not sure what you mean by a “T-Vo” attack but when the Hulk is in a total rage he becomes immune to psychic attacks even from the likes of Jean Grey and if you say that Superman is stronger then Jean in this then I give up and Superman is an Uber God and can’t be beat.
Remember what I said before is that if Sups went all out in the very first seconds of the fight that he could beat him; my point in this whole discussion is that it’s not as easily done as you say. Yes Superman is multi-powered in more ways that can be counted, that is one of the things that I so dislike about him and many of DC heroes. I like a character based in somewhat reality and have powers that are related to their abilities.
This is all have to say on this subject with you since you no longer wish to remain civil about it. You have a thing for Superman and we all can tell.
Originally posted by batdude123
Here's the scan you wanted of Superman vibrating invisible. The fact that you are trying to compare Superman, one of the MOST versatile characters in comics, to Hulk, who's very VERY uni-dimensional is laughable. Hell, Superman could even take him out using T-Vo which is a psychic attack that he could bust out on Hulk.
At least most of Hulk's powers are consistent and, to some extent, logical. All of them stem from his vastly improved phsyique. They make sense in a fictional way. Superman, however is the epitome of complete randomness. I mean, freeze breath?! Eye Lasers?! WTF?! If anything, Superman's writing is far more uni-dimensional than Hulk could ever be.
Originally posted by ThePittman
Yes I know that DC loves to break the laws of Physics, however they also keep them in mind as well because readers are getting smarter every day, well at least some of them. I know that DD has energy projection but my point is that is not what killed Sups but brute force which the Hulk has no limit. During their fight all of the bystanders could see them fight and that means they were not using their super speed. DD doesn’t also have the regeneration ability to the level of the Hulk either or gaining strength with levels of radiation.Ok I forgot about the whole vibrate thing but that isn’t becoming invisible at all, plus if I remember right he has to be going normal speed to use. Also with him vibrating he would make noise that Hulks hearing could pick up so that really doesn’t mean much in this fight.
I’m not sure what you mean by a “T-Vo” attack but when the Hulk is in a total rage he becomes immune to psychic attacks even from the likes of Jean Grey and if you say that Superman is stronger then Jean in this then I give up and Superman is an Uber God and can’t be beat.
Remember what I said before is that if Sups went all out in the very first seconds of the fight that he could beat him; my point in this whole discussion is that it’s not as easily done as you say. Yes Superman is multi-powered in more ways that can be counted, that is one of the things that I so dislike about him and many of DC heroes. I like a character based in somewhat reality and have powers that are related to their abilities.
This is all have to say on this subject with you since you no longer wish to remain civil about it. You have a thing for Superman and we all can tell.
Well, I realize that the picture of Superman when he's vibrating invisible doesn't look like it, but in the text (even though it is very fuzzy) that Superman is saying that he vibrated himself invisible. The guy he's fighting even makes a reference to how he can't even see him. I'm sorry if you couldn't read that because it was very fuzzy. Also, I'm not aware that Superman's vibrating intangible techniques make a "buzzing" noise that Hulk could exploit. That's called grasping at straws. Anyways, I apologize if I gave you the impression of being mean and uncivilized. While Superman is one of my favorite characters, I do not "have a thing" for him." By the way, I didn't realize that you thought that Superman would win, I also apologize for that.
Originally posted by Dinalfos
At least most of Hulk's powers are consistent and, to some extent, logical. All of them stem from his vastly improved phsyique. They make sense in a fictional way. Superman, however is the epitome of complete randomness. I mean, freeze breath?! Eye Lasers?! WTF?! If anything, Superman's writing is far more uni-dimensional than Hulk could ever be.
Actually, they have explained all of Superman's powers and how he is able to do all that he can do. It's really quite interesting and fun to read.
Originally posted by ThePittman
Yes I know that DC loves to break the laws of Physics, however they also keep them in mind as well because readers are getting smarter every day, well at least some of them. I know that DD has energy projection but my point is that is not what killed Sups but brute force which the Hulk has no limit. During their fight all of the bystanders could see them fight and that means they were not using their super speed. DD doesn’t also have the regeneration ability to the level of the Hulk either or gaining strength with levels of radiation.Ok I forgot about the whole vibrate thing but that isn’t becoming invisible at all, plus if I remember right he has to be going normal speed to use. Also with him vibrating he would make noise that Hulks hearing could pick up so that really doesn’t mean much in this fight.
I’m not sure what you mean by a “T-Vo” attack but when the Hulk is in a total rage he becomes immune to psychic attacks even from the likes of Jean Grey and if you say that Superman is stronger then Jean in this then I give up and Superman is an Uber God and can’t be beat.
Remember what I said before is that if Sups went all out in the very first seconds of the fight that he could beat him; my point in this whole discussion is that it’s not as easily done as you say. Yes Superman is multi-powered in more ways that can be counted, that is one of the things that I so dislike about him and many of DC heroes. I like a character based in somewhat reality and have powers that are related to their abilities.
This is all have to say on this subject with you since you no longer wish to remain civil about it. You have a thing for Superman and we all can tell.
By the way, Doomsday killing Superman in the first place should have never happened. You forgot to mention that Superman ended up killing Doomsday before Superman died, so technically that was a win for Superman. 😉 You'll also realize that in that fight, Superman was fighting like a dumbass in that he was using his bare fists to fight him, almost nothing else. Superman before, has taken out an entire army of Doomsday clones using his heat vision and nothing else.