Originally posted by bigbranWhat the hell are you talking about? When have I ever said any thing about Flash and Darkseid, I know squat about Darkseid. I think you have me confused with someone else.
No, because he said he loves Hulk, and at the same time, he think Flash can beat Darkseid, when at the same time still, he thinks Darkseid could mindrape LT.I know what would happen, just seeing what he thinks.
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
Eternity.Domepiece.
Originally posted by batdude123
Shit, he already has been.Mageddon anyone.... ?
That's not pre-crisis level. He's not exactly blowing away galaxies. It also sounds like a Morrison or Loeb level cockstroke.
What's the argument now though? Superman isn't close to Hulk's strength or something?
Hulk at his best is stronger than Superman (I know, Mageddon, blah blah. Punching through time storms, destroying whole galaxies, etc are a bit over that.)
However, the two are in the same league of strength, as are Orion, Thor, etc.
Originally posted by great_dane
flash agains hulk would be the same thing as superman and hulk. viabration, and shortly after, death.AND NEVER did i say flash can beat darkseid. darkseid would easily destroy the flash.
Didn't you say Flash could run someone to the end of time and steal powers?
We could line up a LOT of stuff you've said that that's utter shit.
Originally posted by ThePittmanGreat Dane thinks Darkseid could mindrape LT along with a bunch of other abstracts level beings, at the same time.
What the hell are you talking about? When have I ever said any thing about Flash and Darkseid, I know squat about Darkseid. I think you have me confused with someone else.hum
Great Dane says he loves Hulk.
I was trying to see how much he loved Hulk when he was placed against his true love (Flash).
no. i never said he could run darkseid to the end of time, or said he can steal powers. he cant steal powers,but he can fuse with other beings. and i wouldnt say running darkseid to the end of time would do anything, because darkseid is immortal, and while at the end of time, create time and erase flash from ever existing
and yes, i do think darkseid can mindrape a numerous amounts of high level beings. he controled a planet of kryptonians who were all basically "supermen" having these powers at the same time. 3 billion if im not mistaken. so to mindrape 3 billion supermen simultaniously is pretty impressive. i think darkseid is one of the most powerfull beings there is
Originally posted by great_dane
and yes, i do think darkseid can mindrape a numerous amounts of high level beings. he controled a planet of kryptonians who were all basically "supermen" having these powers at the same time. 3 billion if im not mistaken. so to mindrape 3 billion supermen simultaniously is pretty impressive. i think darkseid is one of the most powerfull beings there is
Pretty sure someone along the lines of an Omega Level Psychic could do the same thing. 😬
Also, when has any other kryptonian aside from the three main ones shown the power of the most popular ones seen in normal comics.
Great Dane, congratulations. You're an imbecile.
Originally posted by Beta Ray HowardNope, Darkseid mindrapes Living Tribunal, and other abstracts... nope, can't make a joke.
Pretty sure someone along the lines of an Omega Level Psychic could do the same thing. 😬Also, when has any other kryptonian aside from the three main ones shown the power of the most popular ones seen in normal comics.
Great Dane, congratulations. You're an imbecile.
Here's some fun stuff:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=425870&highlight=userid%3A101622
Originally posted by great_dane
full powered DS wins. if he doesnt decide to turn galactus into a beaver, or piece of gum, he can simply erase him from the timestream
Originally posted by great_dane
Im making him out to be?? I didnt know was a dcu writer. all these powers and abilities belong to DS. i'm not making anything up.
I can easily say full powered G isn't as strong as YOUR making him out to be either. Full powered DS would take a full powered galactus, all powers and abilities set aside, ds is immortal, g isnt
Originally posted by Validus
You can't make this stuff up, folks.
Originally posted by Rick/GenisDo you know how many times Hulk has beat the Leader?
Let's completely ignore these morons..... If Hulk has never been beaten by speed... then why did he spill all of his guts over the floor when he tried to take it againsts speedfreak?And if Strength beats Smarts, then explain why hulk was quoted as saying
"No matter how strong I get or how smart I get, The Leader is always making me his pawn!"
Originally posted by batdude123Show me scans of Superman taking down Hulk level (strength, durability, regenerative abiltiies, speed) characters with the "ease" you're suggesting, and I'll consider the veracity of your post. Far as I remember... in recent memory, he hasn't done it. I'll come back to this issue later.
I for one am not underestimating the Hulk. I understand his capabilities, and know that a victory against Superman in Hulk’s case is simply not possible. As per forum rules, the contenders fight to their FULL potential in matches. What exactly does this mean, you might ask yourself? Well, it simply means that Hulk would not be landing one blow, and would thusly get his ass kicked from here to the sun.What everybody needs to understand is that it would not be a back and forth brawling type of a match. If that were the case, this fight would be a lot more even. However, that is not the case. Superman is using his speed along with his other powers to beat the Hulk senseless. That shouldn’t take very long at all.
Originally posted by batdude123Don't bring up low end feats. I will swamp you with scans of Superman having tough times dealing with mid tier and street levelers. *cough* Batman *cough* As many times as Hulk has low showings, so has Superman. Besides, just the same as the usual Superman defense, when has the more recent incarnation of Hulk been embarassed in such a way that we can legitimately hold it against him?
And yet, mid tier characters, and even street level characters give him trouble a lot of the times as well. 😬
Originally posted by batdude123So. All of Hulk's high showings are PIS. Ok. Well, I guess that ends that. Glad I can sleep comfortably now knowing that although Hulk has consistently held his own against top tier super-strong super-speedster opponents, they were ALL rigged. Someone close the Hulk respect thread now. I'll call Marvel and tell them to change his tagline to "Hulk weakest there is, because NONE of his fights count."
HyperionA watered down version of Superman, really. This guy was taken down by Blink with some sand. He also couldn’t even destroy that small asteroid that was heading for earth iirc. Not to mention, any time Hulk faces foes of this caliber, it’s always a slugfest. None of the other characters are using their power sets to full potential...ThorOkay, I’m not going to deny this whatsoever. However, whenever these two meet, it’s simply a battle of strength. Thor is too proud to use anything exotic with Mjolnir against Hulk. He wants to beat Hulk the old fashioned way. However, using Mjolnir as something more than an appendage for decoration, Thor would anally rape Hulk 10/10. God blast, anti-matter blast, soul sucking, teleporting, blah blah blah…
Silver Surfer[B]Every
single time these two have met in battle, it has been a straight up fist fight. AND, each time Hulk has failed to even so much as faze Norrin in their fights. So, again this has no bearing on this match up, considering:A) Fights with Silver Surfer have been slugfests, when Norrin could simply rearrange Hulk’s molecules into a completely different substance.
B) Superman is a better and stronger fighter than SS.JuggernautAnd… ? How is this supposed to impress anybody here? They’re basically the same character except Juggernaut is a little weaker, and Hulk is less durable...
Gladiator1) Gladiator wasn’t fighting the best he possibly could. Hulk fighting people like this have to be watered down an EXTREMELY large amount because otherwise, Hulk couldn’t compete.
2) Gladiator is a jobber, through and through. It’s encoded in his DNA.
3) Gladiator was being weakened from the radiation from the power plant they were fighting by. [/b]
You know, all sarcasm aside... parts of what you're saying are legitimate. But your overall conclusion is really, "Hulk fights basically don't count because Hulk shouldn't really win. So I'm just gonna dismiss them because frankly, I don't like those fights. Since those fights are dismissed, Hulk has nothing. Supes wins." Surfer fights are Surfer fights. I've seen Surfer try to drain him of rage, of radiation, use the Power Cosmic to try to stop his movement with forcefields and energy projection... and you know what? Hulk still manages to get good hard shots in and reduce it to a brawl. Frankly, your assessment of Hulk's top fights is unfair. Bottom-line childishly unfair. Because this so-called crap writing that happens, happens everywhere. It happens especially in Superman comics. So be my guest if you want to discount every single one of Superman's fights where he gets hit by a non super-speedster as PIS. Let me tell you. When you're done tallying up the count, you won't have much left.
And really this is the bottom-line: even if you could definitively prove that every piece of Hulk writing was trash, Superman still does not "10/10 easily pwnorz" Hulk-level characters in his own books. Hulk-level characters in terms of strength, durability, regeneration, speed who have fought Superman recently? Let's see... Mongul? Repo-Man? Subjekt-17? Equus? Despero? All of whom do not have Superman's superspeed reflexes and yet Supes gets tagged anyway... a lot. Does Superman beat them 10/10? Yes or no? The obvious answer is: No, they don't get curbstomped 10/10. Is that clear? So then why does Hulk not get one single hit in and gets anally raped 10/10? Because really... even taking away Hulk's fights... considering Superman's own fights in his own books... Hulk's more powerful than those guys. I don't really see where your logic comes from other than a similarly rabid fanboyish attitude like the "Hulk Smash" ppl you've been denigrating. Bottom-line, yes; your version of Supes and your version of Hulk might get you near a 10/10 Supes count. But when it comes down to the comic's version of Supes and the comic's version of the Hulk, your conclusion is not only unsupported, but contradicted and fanboyish. Maybe if I feel like it, I'll tell you how Hulk gets his 4/10 and how he fares directly against heat-vision, freezing breath, t-vo, orbit-toss, etc. But really... it is the unfounded 10/10 curbstomp attitude that is my main concern, and hopefully I've shown how extentuated it is.
Originally posted by great_dane
ya. that was fun.i mean, cause as you all know, flash CAN'T do it right??
he has shown to do all these feats before. read his respect thread noob, since you dont know anything about the flash series and what he has done
He's never done a Fusion technique. Pretty sure you were smoking crack and watching DBZ when you typed half of that.
Also, I don't make bullshit claims about my favorite character. I'm not gonna go say Beta Ray Bill can take Galactus.
Originally posted by great_daneNow I figured it out... you know all about Flash just by his respect thread!
ya. that was fun.i mean, cause as you all know, flash CAN'T do it right??
he has shown to do all these feats before. read his respect thread noob, since you dont know anything about the flash series and what he has done
You actually know nothing of Flash, and get all your knowledge from his respect thread.