Superman vs. Hulk

Originally posted by xmeat
no mindless hulk the one who defeated the entire avengers team.

....none of whom possesed speed close to superman.

Originally posted by xmeat
no mindless hulk the one who defeated the entire avengers team.

Besides, I'm pretty sure he was getting blitzed by Iron Fist (one of the Hulk's were anyway. Savage or Mindless).
When you get blitzed by someone with just fraction of a fraction of Superman's reaction times, you know the big blue is putting your head through the ground.

doesn't matter supes could ever defeate the entire avengers roaster if he could he would of done so in the Jla/avengers crossover.

Originally posted by xmeat
doesn't matter supes could ever defeate the entire avengers roaster if he could he would of done so in the Jla/avengers crossover.

Originally posted by xmeat
doesn't matter supes could ever defeate the entire avengers roaster if he could he would of done so in the Jla/avengers crossover.

He was also exhausted from having a magic hammer (you know, Superman's weakness), collide with his skull when he wasn't expecting it.
Then after he beat Thor, Superman (totally exhausted, from fighting Thor, and magic), the team jumped him.

Since you want to use non-canon crossovers... what about when Superman beat Hulk in Marvel/DC.

Written out of character, using all of his powers at his disposal and strategically, Superman beats Hulk and the entire Avengers team no contest.

(in character, he usually doesn't use his full strength, doesn't straight up speed blitz, doesn't go for the kill, and usually gives the opponent time to think about it.)

Originally posted by bigbran
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First games, to non-canon crossovers (to Marvel anyway)? Crossovers also have some of the worst writing ever.

He was also exhausted from having a magic hammer (you know, Superman's weakness), collide with his skull when he wasn't expecting it.
Then after he beat Thor, Superman (totally exhausted, from fighting Thor, and magic), the team jumped him.

Since you want to use non-canon crossovers... what about when Superman beat Hulk in Marvel/DC.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Written out of character, using all of his powers at his disposal and strategically, Superman beats Hulk and the entire Avengers team no contest.

(in character, he usually doesn't use his full strength, doesn't straight up speed blitz, doesn't go for the kill, and usually gives the opponent time to think about it.)

Originally posted by xmeat
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What you laughin bout fool?!? Superman can move almost at the speed of light, if he wanted he could take everyone out before they even blinked.

Originally posted by xmeat
fine supes was saying anyway that hulk to his best punches and was still fighting and that was professor hulk .

Superman also took a full punch from an enraged Savage Hulk and didn't even move. Plus I think he said something similar to Thor.

It's obvious that some on this thread aren't into proving points. My advice is to simply ignore them completely. It's not productive to debate somebody who has no facts and changes the subject every time they're called on their opinion.

Originally posted by bigbran
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First games, to non-canon crossovers (to Marvel anyway)? Crossovers also have some of the worst writing ever.

He was also exhausted from having a magic hammer (you know, Superman's weakness), collide with his skull when he wasn't expecting it.
Then after he beat Thor, Superman (totally exhausted, from fighting Thor, and magic), the team jumped him.

Since you want to use non-canon crossovers... what about when Superman beat Hulk in Marvel/DC.

Yeah, but what about all the high powered enemies that Captain America killed in Marvel Ultimate Alliance?

Obviously, if Captain America can take out Doom and Galactus and the like, and the Hulk is superior to Captain America, the Hulk can do it too! And there is no way you'd argue that an Odin-powered doom or Galactus are in anyway inferior to Superman, so the Hulk can OBVIOUSLY take out Superman as well.

I win. 🙂.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
What you laughin bout fool?!? Superman can move almost at the speed of light, if he wanted he could take everyone out before they even blinked.

Superman also took a full punch from an enraged Savage Hulk and didn't even move. Plus I think he said something similar to Thor.

Originally posted by xmeat
you bring the most powerful members of the avengers and they will murder supes all together. And supes said that if this continues he might actually move me.

I'll take Bada's advice.

Originally posted by bigbran
He was flying in space...
If you want to play stupid...

http://img371.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermanandbatman2300300067rw.jpg

http://img13.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc68&image=67b_supeshole1a.jpg
http://img127.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc148&image=863_supeshole1b.jpg

Play dumb with that, or was it a play?

Need more Sparky?

Originally posted by bigbran
If he is talking in space, I'm sure you can figure it out, come one, you can do it...
Wait, if those scans don't prove Superman can't breath in space, then how the hell does the ones of Hulk prove he can breath? Also, why don't you provide a scan for the audience then? Can't? OK? *continues*

Anyway, really, what the f*ck, if he can fly in space, but not breath in it, then that would kind of mean he can't breath, and it wouldn't matter anyway in this fight, since he can already fly in space.
God, do you guys even think about what you saying?
Like f*ck. You say he can fly in space, so why would it matter if Hulk somehow took him there?
Hulk also doesn't have the mobility of Superman either, so Hulk might as well bend over if he takes him to space.

But, for thine grand finale:
Supes takes that green hemeroid to the sun.

http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermanvsdarkseid5rp4.jpg
http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermanvsdarkseid6lg1.jpg

Hulk isn't Darkseid, he is slower, a worse fighter, and by all means, weaker, so he won't defend against it.

Now please, you have brought nothing to the table, so unless you want to be shooed away like someone else, I suggest you stay away from this thread, until you actually learn that Superman can breath in space, since, I don't know, his whole career?

Hulk isn't God, Superman can breath in space, and Devil Goblin is never right... EVER! 😐

Originally posted by bigbran
Just skip my whole post to answer one thing... Ok I'll bite.

Well, stalemating Highfather in a physical conflict. Beating the hell out of Wonder Woman. Making a disobediant Supes listen to his plans in three punches. Quite few things actually.

It doesn't matter if Darkseid wasn't (for some reason), stronger, the fact is, that Hulk doesn't have the reaction speed to stop getting taken to the sun. Even if he did (for some really odd reason), break out of it, he would be in the middle of space with no mobility, and could just get taken the rest of the way.

So in other words, Hulk is screwed no matter how you put it.

Originally posted by bigbran
Umm... Darkseid didn't... but, Darkseid is faster, smarter, better fighter, better reaction times, and stronger.
I don't see how if Darkseid didn't, then how could Hulk. The whole point.

And yes, if Darkseid did stop it anyway, then it still doesn't stop Hulk from getting out of it.
Also, if you read my post, you would see, what would happen if Hulk did break out.

Also remember:
Due to a certain retarded thing, Hulk just destroyed the battle field, so he will be floating helplessly in space. Even easier for Supes to take him thier. Ya, Hulk supporters just keep digging that green guy a deeper grave (probably due to racism).

What his motto should be:
The more you support him, the worse off he is.

If you need proof, check this thread out for details.

Originally posted by bigbran
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Was Gladiator going as fast as Superman was in the scans I so politely put out their?
Also, the main point was to show that Darkseid didn't escape, so you either:
a) Have no idea who Darkseid is.
b) Just want Hulk to win so bad, that you have shut yourself off from logic and proof this entire time.

No, if Darkseid can't do it, then Hulk has a 1 in a million chance of even trying.
But, as you ignored again, I already gave an example of what would happen if he did break free. He would be floating helplessly in space! Then what?

Also, Hulk is already floating helplessly in space, so it makes it all the more sweeter.

The only damage Hulk can do to Supes at this time is when he gets out of his hold, which:

a) Won't happen since, Hulk won't have the time to do it.
b) Won't be sufficent enough to ever allow him a victory.
c) If he ever does get out, he can't follow up with any attacks since he has no mobility in space.
d) Etc, etc...

So, have you realized now that it is futile to even try to give Hulk the win in this debate?
Everything you have said so far has been matched and conquered, at least twice.
Every possible angle from what you have said has also been beat into submission and tied to a pole.

So basically, the best option would be to walk away.
I once thought Mindless Hulk could beat Superman too (yes, it is true, in fact, when I joined this forum, and a little after). You learn from experience, and time that that is not simply so.

Originally posted by bigbran
Is that why he stalemated Thor for an hour (or for a while) in h2h?

Yes, I was once there too, but no, Hulk wouldn't tear him apart, he wouldn't even touch him.

Well, you sure as hell can't prove he was going from Earth to the Sun in a couple seconds, now can you?

Originally posted by bigbran
Still doesn't change that he stalemated Thor for a while in h2h, and Thor using his hammer like, well... a hammer.

Wait, I think that you are thinking of Bannerless Hulk.
The same one that couldn't hurt Surfer, even after pounding on his head.

Originally posted by bigbran
Ya, the one who stalemated Thor for a while.

Besides, I'm pretty sure he was getting blitzed by Iron Fist (one of the Hulk's were anyway. Savage or Mindless).
When you get blitzed by someone with just fraction of a fraction of Superman's reaction times, you know the big blue is putting your head through the ground.

Originally posted by bigbran
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First games, to non-canon crossovers (to Marvel anyway)? Crossovers also have some of the worst writing ever.

He was also exhausted from having a magic hammer (you know, Superman's weakness), collide with his skull when he wasn't expecting it.
Then after he beat Thor, Superman (totally exhausted, from fighting Thor, and magic), the team jumped him.

Since you want to use non-canon crossovers... what about when Superman beat Hulk in Marvel/DC.

There I have answered everything you have said, and you answered nothing.
So, when you answered the equivelent of what I answered, then I might debate... hell, I'll probably just come back anyway, but still, this is showing the difference in what I proved, and since nothing got answered of mine (except maybe a couple sentences), shows what you proved that Hulk could do.
I'll take that as a loss for Hulk.

Has no one learned yet that trying to debate with xmeat and DevilHulk is the definition of insanity?

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
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Originally posted by Accel
Has no one learned yet that trying to debate with xmeat and DevilHulk is the definition of insanity?

Originally posted by xmeat
your saying supes could defeat the entire avengers team BS.

Think hard about it. He, himself, can think far faster than humans, has reflexes and speed far faster than any human. He also has planet moving power and heat vision. Also has telepathy. Now I said an out of character Superman, thats one that would use all of his powers and kill without a second thought.

Yes he could kill the entire Avengers roster.

Hulk is always thrown to fight weak Avenger teams, or a Thor that forgets he can fly. How would Hulk fair fighting these Avengers?

1. Sentry
2. Sersi
3. Wanda
4. Quasar

Stop saying the Hulk owns the Avengers cause its not true. He owns the street level Avengers yes . But when it comes to the heavy hitters, he's out of his league. Superman wins this.....Hell Hyperion could probably take Hulk...

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
Think hard about it. He, himself, can think far faster than humans, has reflexes and speed far faster than any human. He also has planet moving power and heat vision. Also has telepathy. Now I said an out of character Superman, thats one that would use all of his powers and kill without a second thought.

Yes he could kill the entire Avengers roster.