Superman vs. Hulk

Started by ThePittman444 pages

Originally posted by xmeat
what do you mean im just stating facts.
No you are not; you are making up your own little world. The scan clearly shows and even in the text so there is not “guessing about” the image that Thor and Herc lifted more weight than the Hulk which means that their BASE LEVEL is more than the Hulk. We all know that Hulk will get stronger with emotions but at BASE LEVEL he is weaker.

Howdy guys, I don't know about the whole argument about which is stronger, but I ran this fight through Freedom Force, and just thought I'd share some of the highlights with y'all.

:EDIT: Hmm, this won't let me post links to my pictures, but maybe this will work....

W W W. inaneasylum.org/users/bentongrey/?af=Default

My commentary is numbered with the pictures, maybe after I'm here for a while I'll be able to post them directly.

The fight started well for Sup's, with him frying the Hulk from the air:2

However, Hulk managed to knock 'ol blue out of the sky, and then procedeed to knock him back INTO the sky: 3

Sup's managed to freeze green jeans but...:4

It didn't hold him long. This time, Hulk visits the stratosphere:5

They traded blows for a good while, flying all over the map:6,7,8

But in the end, Hulk put Sup's down. I may need to rebalance him, but I think it was a pretty fair fight.

Greetings BentonGrey

I think the fight ignores Supes speed advantage and that he can still fly once he's knocked into the air.

Originally posted by BentonGrey
Howdy guys, I don't know about the whole argument about which is stronger, but I ran this fight through Freedom Force, and just thought I'd share some of the highlights with y'all.

:EDIT: Hmm, this won't let me post links to my pictures, but maybe this will work....

W W W. inaneasylum.org/users/bentongrey/?af=Default

My commentary is numbered with the pictures, maybe after I'm here for a while I'll be able to post them directly.

The fight started well for Sup's, with him frying the Hulk from the air:2

However, Hulk managed to knock 'ol blue out of the sky, and then procedeed to knock him back INTO the sky: 3

Sup's managed to freeze green jeans but...:4

It didn't hold him long. This time, Hulk visits the stratosphere:5

They traded blows for a good while, flying all over the map:6,7,8

But in the end, Hulk put Sup's down. I may need to rebalance him, but I think it was a pretty fair fight.

1. What is Freedom Force?

2. That's wrong on a lot of levels.

everything that involves hulk winning is wrong to you people.

Originally posted by xmeat
everything that involves hulk winning is wrong to you people.

When something completely ignores logic, it is wrong.

Originally posted by xmeat
batman
green arrow
deathstroke
both at one time gave supes a hard time and lets not forget our good friend venom. Talk ABOUT PATHETIC.

Iron Fist
Captain America
Wolverine
Spiderman

Have all given Hulk a hard time(and they've done it far more often than the people you listed have taken on Supes). For that matter, didn't Venom take on Hulk once also?

Originally posted by xmeat
everything that involves hulk winning is wrong to you people.
No just how you say it will go, if it is a straight up H2H without the speed then I would give it to Hulk.

Originally posted by ThePittman
No just how you say it will go, if it is a straight up H2H without the speed then I would give it to Hulk.

Goes for most mortals. In a battle of pure strength Hulk could win virtually every time.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Iron Fist
Captain America
Wolverine
Spiderman

Have all given Hulk a hard time(and they've done it far more often than the people you listed have taken on Supes). For that matter, didn't Venom take on Hulk once also?

most of the time cap and spidey hade help . Oh please supes has tough times with weaklins all the time and lets not forget spidey fought supes.

Originally posted by xmeat
most of the time cap and spidey hade help . Oh please supes has tough times with weaklins all the time and lets not forget spidey fought supes.

1. (again) noncanon comic

2. spider-man was enhanced by red sun radiation

3. if you want to go by noncanon comics, batman beat the hulk with a gas grenade and a kick to the gut.

4. superman fights abstracts, skyfathers, gods, angels, universal reality manipulators for a living..... and HULK is going to beat him? quit being a dumbass

😮‍💨

Now PLEASE know your place and stfu.

Originally posted by xmeat
most of the time cap and spidey hade help . Oh please supes has tough times with weaklins all the time and lets not forget spidey fought supes.

Most of the time yes. All of the time no. And they've faced him solo more than the people you listed have taken on Supes.

Spidey was able to fight against Pre Crisis Supes because he was charged with Red Sun Radiation(which is one of Supes weakness's). Was Spidey's body charged with one of Hulk's weakness's when he took on the Hulk? And that same Supes shook off Hulks shots like they where nothing when he got serious.

most of the time cap and spidey hade help . Oh please supes has tough times with weaklins all the time and lets not forget spidey fought supes.

That crossover was non canon and due to plot devices Spidey was super charged and Superman was powered down. Which weaklings has Superman struggled with? Batman has never given him trouble in a non canon fight.

Sorry, I just have to post this...

Freedom Force is a PC superhero game that has a great community that has made just about every comic character imaginable available through 3rd party content. The community's main site is down at the moment, but the official site can tell you more if you're interested.

http://www.freedomfans.com/

I don't mean that I necessarily think that Hulk beating Sups is right, just that the fight, in general went pretty well. The WAY Hulk beat him leads me to believe I have to rebalance.

I have to say that I think Sups speed would give him a pretty tremendous advanatage over just about anybody, but he rarely REALLY uses it because, just like Flash, if he did, every comic would be over in two seconds. So, you have to balance things between the spirit of the character and the reality (ha, you know what I mean) of the character.

Originally posted by BentonGrey
Freedom Force is a PC superhero game that has a great community that has made just about every comic character imaginable available through 3rd party content. The community's main site is down at the moment, but the official site can tell you more if you're interested.

http://www.freedomfans.com/

I don't mean that I necessarily think that Hulk beating Sups is right, just that the fight, in general went pretty well. The WAY Hulk beat him leads me to believe I have to rebalance.

I have to say that I think Sups speed would give him a pretty tremendous advanatage over just about anybody, but he rarely REALLY uses it because, just like Flash, if he did, every comic would be over in two seconds. So, you have to balance things between the spirit of the character and the reality (ha, you know what I mean) of the character.

Hmmm... thanks for the link. 🙂

And for the last part, that's exactly why we have all the characters go all out when fighting. 😄

Indeed. Characters fight to their full potential.

Spiderman doesn't pull his punches here - he takes his victims head clear off.

Originally posted by Soljer
Indeed. Characters fight to their full potential.

Spiderman doesn't pull his punches here - he takes his victims head clear off.

They fight to their full potential but they also don’t do things that are out of character as well unless the thread states they are “bloodlusted”.

You know what's funny about that Spider-Man/Superman fight?

Spider-Man was seriously beefed up.
Superman wasn't trying the entire time.
Superman also pulled a punch, that went an inch away from Spider-Man's face, and nearly killed him.
Spider-Man broke his hand hitting Superman.

Also, non-canon.

Anyway, Superman still wins, and still after 227 pages, nobody has even gave a reasonable way for Hulk to win.

Thanks for the explanation guys, that clears things up a little.

As far as the question at hand...of course, it still depends (like someone has already said) on which era supes you're talking about, but I do think that the Man 'O Steel could take Hulk. Although...the late 80's Supes would have a harder time of it.