SPIDERman vs. NIGHTcrawler w/swords · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

Swanky-Tuna Post-Crisis Balki

Originally posted by MERCILOUS
I've never seen that movie although swanky's definition is fair enough.

My definition includes the ability to dodge a teleportation attack because Nightcrawler will appear and will attack. "OH CRAP! RIGHT HERE!"

Although I'm not sure why we're debating deadly teleport attacks. Is this an "out for blood" battle?

MERCILOUS ALWAYS METAL

Yeah, but I'm saying that Kurt will simply teleport his weapon into spidey, and i beleive it is.

Swanky-Tuna Post-Crisis Balki

Well, then I think it could go either way. Simply going apeshit on each other means anything could happen. Was it stated what kind of swords Nightcrawler has?

MERCILOUS ALWAYS METAL

I think it's a two of the scimitar he usually carries.

Arahan Silver Guy

And I think a Wookie is bigger than a bottle of wine.

who?-kid Senior Member

Originally posted by XerxesLogan
just because spidey knows a hit is coming.....expecialy with multipul ports doesn't mean he can dodge it......not even he can react fast enough to doge 4 blows in a second coming from everywhere........Nightcrawler wins.

I remember a comic where Spider-Man was blinded, and he still dodged various laser beams, purely relying on his instinct.

Dodging a sword, teleportation or no teleportation, won't be a hard thing for Spider-Man. Trying to teleport the sword in Spider-Man won't work, cuz his spider sense will kick in and alert Spider-Man (uh oh, have to jump away very quickly, incoming attack from the left...)

The fact that teleportation is instantaneous has nothing to do with it.

XerxesLogan Beserker

Incomeing attack from the left...the right above me below me and to the norteast..........at the same time. Thats the part you forgot.

ArtemisEntreri Junior Member

Hmmmm If Spidey's spider sense goes off in the back of his skull, I wonder what would happen if it was cracked open by say...the pommel of a sword???

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Obviously Nightcrawler wins this, there's really not much to say about it. I don't understand how everyone thinks Spidey will dodge EVERYTHING, when the comics prove otherwise. He gets hit consistantly enough.

who?-kid Senior Member

Originally posted by Juntai
Obviously Nightcrawler wins this, there's really not much to say about it. I don't understand how everyone thinks Spidey will dodge EVERYTHING, when the comics prove otherwise. He gets hit consistently enough.

No he doesn't. He gets hit a lot, but not consistently. In most cases, it's because he's mid air or so, or while saving somebody, or because he's outnumbered, or because this of that.

On very rare occasions, it's because his spider-sense warned him too late.

MERCILOUS ALWAYS METAL

Originally posted by who?-kid
I remember a comic where Spider-Man was blinded, and he still dodged various laser beams, purely relying on his instinct.
Dodging a sword, teleportation or no teleportation, won't be a hard thing for Spider-Man. Trying to teleport the sword in Spider-Man won't work, cuz his spider sense will kick in and alert Spider-Man (uh oh, have to jump away very quickly, incoming attack from the left...)
The fact that teleportation is instantaneous has nothing to do with it.

It most certainly does have something to do with it. Let's say Spidey actually gets a warning, there is no (that means zero, absolutley no time whatsoever) for him to move out of the way. The sword is already in him. NO TIME TO DODGE EQUALS DEAD SPIDEY. how hard is that to understand. Time it takes spidey to move out of the way; .1 second. Time it takes for Night crawler to teleport a sword into spidey's head; .0000000000000000000000000 seconds.

who?-kid Senior Member

Originally posted by MERCILOUS
It most certainly does have something to do with it. Let's say Spidey actually gets a warning, there is no (that means zero, absolutley no time whatsoever) for him to move out of the way. The sword is already in him. NO TIME TO DODGE EQUALS DEAD SPIDEY. how hard is that to understand. Time it takes spidey to move out of the way; .1 second. Time it takes for Night crawler to teleport a sword into spidey's head; .0000000000000000000000000 seconds.

The spider-sense warns Spider-Man before the attack. This gives him a split second to get out of the way.

The guy dodges multiple laser attacks... how you ask ? Because his spider-sense warns him a second before they actually fire their beams at Spider-Man. For the spider-sense, a teleporting NC is exactly the same as multiple laser attacks (NC is only less dangerous).

MERCILOUS ALWAYS METAL

Originally posted by who?-kid
The spider-sense warns Spider-Man [b]before the attack. This gives him a split second to get out of the way.
The guy dodges multiple laser attacks... how you ask ? Because his spider-sense warns him a second before they actually fire their beams at Spider-Man. For the spider-sense, a teleporting NC is exactly the same as multiple laser attacks (NC is only less dangerous). [/B]

Bull. If there's no stimulus there's no spidersense. Spiderman can react to someone aiming then firing a weapon at him, because the aiming is stimulus enough to set off his spidersense. If the shooter could think and fire as fast as the bullet, then spidey would find himself dodging alot less bullets. If the shooter could think and react at the speed of light and fire a laser at Spidey then spiderman would have no time whatsoever to react. There is not space between a teleportation and thus no time. If your saying that Kurt thinking of a teleportation attack is enough stimulus for Spiderman to react to, then you need to say that, of course you seem to be to uneducated on the character you're defending to do so. Even then, a simple 1-2 combo would be enough to teleport a sword into spidey's head seeing as these characters have some prior knowledge of eachother.