Storm vs. Colossus

Started by xmarksthespot5 pages

Storm really isn't at the level of intensity she was at during the Doom castle blah blah blah I'm an insane goddess thing. That was claustrophobia induced and built up over a period of time. For all intents and purposes her lightning is null in this fight.

Riptide's projectile was propelled by angular momentum not wind. There's really no way to tell how fast riptide spins, and how fast that projectile would have been going and Colossus is arguably more durable nowadays.

If she's going to generate a hurricane she has to do it before Colossus hurls something at her and knocks her clean out of the sky - because for some reason we're assuming she's even in the sky even though she should start on the ground just like Colossus.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Storm really isn't at the level of intensity she was at during the Doom castle blah blah blah I'm an insane goddess thing. That was claustrophobia induced and built up over a period of time. For all intents and purposes her lightning is null in this fight.

Riptide's projectile was propelled by angular momentum not wind. There's really no way to tell how fast riptide spins, and how fast that projectile would have been going and Colossus is arguably more durable nowadays.

If she's going to generate a hurricane she has to do it before Colossus hurls something at her and knocks her clean out of the sky - because for some reason we're assuming she's even in the sky even though she should start on the ground just like Colossus.

Nope that level can and will be employed in a fight for her life. The storm was built up over a period of time the lightning she used on colossus was generated by her body not summoned.

In uncanny xmen when Rachel was trying to control Storm we saw her lash out with an intensity rivalling those levels:

Ever since her time in "The arena" she has been more emotionally volatile. The above scene supports that point.

In a fight for her life she will lash out with everything shes got.

Also riptide rotated at superhuman speeds allowing him to travel on whirlwind like winds and to project secretions via this motion. My previous point stands. The fact that Wolverine and some of the others were able to dodge/swat aside the projectiles which skewered colossus tells you the speed he propelled them at is no faster than the winds storm can generate.

You have no evidence to support Colossus becoming more durable. Stronger yes but thats just the result of reaching adulthood, not a secondary mutation. Unsupported speculation has no place in debate.

Colossus does not possess superhuman reactions or speed. Starting a reasonable distance from each other she will be off the ground in an instance and out of his reach in seconds. Colossus will not hit her before shes up and away lets be realistic here. A hurricane takes seconds to build up and reach the appropriate velocity. Then its just a case of slamming him around or restricting his movements (forcing him to crawl at a snails pace), the winds would as a side effect impair his visibility as well. In this situation he's a sitting duck and Storm could go all out with her lightning.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Nope that level can and will be employed in a fight for her life. The storm was built up over a period of time the lightning she used on colossus was generated by her body not summoned.
In uncanny xmen when Rachel was trying to control Storm we saw her lash out with an intensity rivalling those levels:
Ever since her time in "The arena" she has been more emotionally volatile. The above scene supports that point.
In a fight for her life she will lash out with everything shes got.
Puhlease... Storm can't go nutso "I am Dark Storm." whenever she wants - she can't attain those intensity levels. She can lash out all she wants doesn't mean it will actually do any good. Colossus took a planet's worth of lightning (as did Cyke) and it did nothing - as much as she could call and as much as she could take. Storm gets mad and oh you better watch out? Storm's lightning can look impressive and yet do little damage - huge lightning bolt hits Emma she was conscious and still going. On Colossus it wouldn't damage - even if pain is caused - low resistance, earthed conductor.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Also riptide rotated at superhuman speeds allowing him to travel on whirlwind like winds and to project secretions via this motion. My previous point stands. The fact that Wolverine and some of the others were able to dodge/swat aside the projectiles which skewered colossus tells you the speed he propelled them at is no faster than the winds storm can generate.
Secretions? Huh? Riptide rotated at superhuman speeds generating angular momentum and used it to propel shurikens.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Unsupported speculation has no place in debate.
I just thought I'd highlight this because I found it incredibly funny.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Colossus does not possess superhuman reactions or speed.
Neither does Storm. Oh, wait a minute it's stated when armoured his speed is increased.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Starting a reasonable distance from each other she will be off the ground in an instance and out of his reach in seconds. Colossus will not hit her before shes up and away lets be realistic here.
Starting from "a reasonable distance" she'll be hit with whatever's nearby, before she's 10ft off the ground. How fast can someone with cl100 strength accelerate something?
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
A hurricane takes seconds to build up and reach the appropriate velocity. Then its just a case of slamming him around or restricting his movements (forcing him to crawl at a snails pace), the winds would as a side effect impair his visibility as well.
So she's going to annoy him to death?
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
In this situation he's a sitting duck and Storm could go all out with her lightning.
Which would do what exactly?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Puhlease... Storm can't go nutso "I am Dark Storm." whenever she wants - she can't attain those intensity levels. She can lash out all she wants doesn't mean it will actually do any good. Colossus took a planet's worth of lightning (as did Cyke) and it did nothing - as much as she could call and as much as she could take. Storm gets mad and oh you better watch out? Storm's lightning can look impressive and yet do little damage - huge lightning bolt hits Emma she was conscious and still going. On Colossus it wouldn't damage - even if pain is caused - low resistance, earthed conductor.Secretions? Huh? Riptide rotated at superhuman speeds generating angular momentum and used it to propel shurikens.I just thought I'd highlight this because I found it incredibly funny.Neither does Storm. Oh, wait a minute it's stated when armoured his speed is increased.Starting from "a reasonable distance" she'll be hit with whatever's nearby, before she's 10ft off the ground. How fast can someone with cl100 strength accelerate something?So she's going to annoy him to death?
Which would do what exactly?

...Heh...I'm trying really hard not to crack up right now.

I can't wait to hear what GS has to say about that. A piece of debris smacks Storm in the head and she's down.

And yet if Colossus threw a baseball-sized rock at her, she'd just shrug it off.

And when armored Colosuss has increased speed and endurance. Hm...Storm still has human speed and endurance...

And why is no one supporting the thunder clap. That would definitely put her down.

Colossus can resist temperatures up to approximately 5000 degrees celsius before his "armoured skin" or body if you prefer starts to melt. A single bolt of lightning is the equivalent of 30,000 degrees celsius. This is a scientific fact which you can easily verify for yourself. Storm has flight and the advantage of long range super-speed attack(lightning travels very fast). Just a single bolt of lightening and Colossus is toast. Of course it is possible for Colossus to strike first and win before Storm can launch her attack. But on balance its pretty likely that Storm would win almost instantly given that in this thread they start off 90 feet or metres apart. However take heart if Colossus is your favorite as there is no valid criteria for assigning probability of occurance or likelihood of outcome to the imaginary universe of comicbooks. So if you want to say Colossus takes it by reacting first and taking Storm out by hitting her by throwing an object, so be it. Not much point in having imagination if you're not free to imagine whatever you want. Hell its probably the only place you can be truely free.