Rachel Summers

Originally posted by Phoenix_Avatar9
yay, hostility!, no jk, but that was funny. Rachel does have a reason to be pissed since hes with the woman who broke up the marriage, but come on now, the grieving period has to end. Mom's over it, Dad's definitely over it, now its her turn

I personally don't see Emma as having any sort of major contribution to the severing of ties between Scott Summers and Jean Grey. She just happened to be around and Summers decided that he wanted some of her. It's not like Scott himself has never had a waivering eye; even when he was married. My only beef is that Rachel, for someone who's been through so much, is still crying like a child over a situation that has nothing to do with her and with people who truthfully; owe her nothing. But I agree. Her grieving period has to end. But Rachel is just a spoiled brat, period. Look at how she got all pissy when ShadowCat and Piotr were hanging out and she wasn't getting the attention. Rachel gets NO sympathy from me or Cable. What is...is, Rachel you b*tch.

Btw. Rachel isn't exactly a toddler. I think she's adult enough to cope with the fact that Jean Grey died; and will be back in another 5 years or so.

I remember that issue when Rachel walked into her and Kittys room and saw Kitty and Piotr. Piotr was going to draw Kitty's picture. And they were drinking wine..........

Originally posted by nathan summers
Btw. Rachel isn't exactly a toddler. I think she's adult enough to cope with the fact that Jean Grey died; and will be back in another 5 years or so.

Right, but I agree with Rachel when she said that Scott moved onto Emma rather too fast. As Rachel said "Grief, Mourning, Respect". Also, I think making out with your new girlfriend right after your wifes death, at her F*cking grave non the less, is pretty f*cked up. Granted, if they hooked up a year or so after JEan's death, fine, but they were making out at her grave merely days after she died. Anyways, Scott ended it with Jean when he said he'd rahter be with her (emma) than Jean.

Originally posted by kichiku_beihei
Right, but I agree with Rachel when she said that Scott moved onto Emma rather too fast. As Rachel said "Grief, Mourning, Respect". Also, I think making out with your new girlfriend right after your wifes death, at her F*cking grave non the less, is pretty f*cked up. Granted, if they hooked up a year or so after JEan's death, fine, but they were making out at her grave merely days after she died. Anyways, Scott ended it with Jean when he said he'd rahter be with her (emma) than Jean.

According to Morrison's last run on New X-Men; Jean wanted Scott to move on and explore his relationship with Emma. In fact, I believe she psychically suggested it to him so he would.

According to Morrison's last run on New X-Men; Jean wanted Scott to move on and explore his relationship with Emma. In fact, I believe she psychically suggested it to him so he would.

she had no choice. It was either Scott with Emma or the universe world die.

it wasn't "scott with emma" or the universe would die, it was "scott and emma as headmasters" or the universe would die. her prompting scott to move on and accept his responsibilities/get with emma could have been handled differently to achieve the same ends. she could've dropped images of the horrible future into his head, or even thrown some illusions at him. encouraging him to "live," and the passionate relationship that followed was because that's what the writers and editors wanted.

Rachel is probably upset, because everytime she comes to 616 her mother is dead and it seems that by now if she were supposed to exist it's now! jean should have at least been pregnant with her by now, they fixed the future cable was from but the one rachel hails from could still be coming up and if emma and scott are together and there is no jean grey how does she fit in. unless that whole thing about rachel being the daughter of phoenix means jean, being the embodiment of passion and creation is the only parent rachel has. maybe that's why she was able to access a portion of the phoenix where here old ass brother never could/has.

"THE CONCEIT OF YOU HUMANS, THE ARROGANCE!!"

or, maybe, just maybe, she could access the phoenix because she was skipping through time the first time the phoenix noticed her, and her psionic resonance was nearly identical to jean's. you know, like how the story was actually written... no need to over-speculate that point.

this entire thread is based on speculation, because somebody thought rachel was kissing havok, nice try though. and i made the comment about jean maybe being her only parent because as a hound she (rachel) could not track scott, which as far as i know was never explained, all it did was make people think scott was not her father and that wolverine might be.

"THE CONCEIT OF YOU HUMANS, THE ARROGANCE!!"