Originally posted by Draco69
He's old. Whattya expect?That's nice. A pouch...and? Seriously. Talisman is limited to her tribe's magical prowess. Fate...isn't limited at all. If it's magic. He can do it. And Nabu will just tell him a nifty way to nullify all Talisman powers anyhoo.
You're not giving Fate not nearly ENOUGH credit. This guy who goes toe to toe with the Starheart, Spectre and even 5th dimensional imps on a regular basis. Talisman simply doesnt' have his repitoire.
Again. He's NOT gonna lose it. Seriously that helmet is crazy-glued on like nobody's business. Even DoV Spectre couldn't get it off.
Everything that is capable of motion, stationary or not, is connected to the speedforce. Which means he can turn the AF into statues.
Throw a million kinetic grenades at lightspeed. Freeze them. Run on air currents up to them. Unleash speedforce energy at them. Tons of options. You think Garrick hasn't faced flying foes before.
If you're gonna refer to SvFL event....
So can Doctor Polaris. And he failed. So can Triumph. And he failed.
Why not? He did it to an army of trolls.
Two speedsters who ridiculously slower than him due to limitations. Two speedsters who will seem stone-statued compared to him. And two speedsters who will look like tasty morsels for him to steal their speed...
Wildcat Wolverine
Mr.Terrific II Guardian
Hawkgirl AuroaThat's about it. AF would most likely win these matchs..but the others are curbstomps.
*shrugs* Forum rules...
If you actually read the Flash comics and the JSA...
Read his feats against Black Flash and Zoom. He was pulling out all sorts of speedforce techs. And this bloodlust. Which means Flash will go at max.
Unless you're going by the popular bias that DC PIS/CIS is allowed while Marvel PIS/CIS IS allowed....
Oh. Yes. Shrinking him would do the trick 🙄 The guy can recreate worlds on a whim, tap into ANY magical resouvir in the mulitverse and do anything imaginable with his ring...but a trapping him in a pouch would do the trick? No. It's gonna take more than a two-bit Cherokee with magical fairy dust to take down Alan.
Sure. For about two or three minutes. Even shorter if Alan simply doesn't feel like fighting and wipes them from existence...
You're giving them TOO much credit. It's nice to see a AF supporter for once but don't let logic get in the way of devotion.
She learned new mystic attacks, and no she isn't. She can gather any Native American artificat and use it. You can't nullify her powers unless you take the talisman off, but they are one in the same now.
Talisman is the same level as Strange who has stalemated the IG, beat In-Betweener, Moondragon, etc. Once again your underestimating her.
Huh? he never tried to take it off. He sucked Hector into the helmet and closed it up trapping him in the helmet's universe. He was not trying at all to remove it
What? I have even seen Wally try to steal speed for an not moving object and was uneffective. The speedforce is not even in the Marvel universe
Once again does Jay frequnetly do all this? no not at all. He mostly just charges head first into a battle.
Naaaa, they have a better chance than that. However, there isn't even a point debating due to I think JSA would win.
If that's the case than I concede Box could not either. I trust your right. I have not read that issue.
and?...that's not exactally a shining example he does that right from the start of fights
They can still go 99% of light speed or close to it, but would cause them and the environment harm. Since it is bloodlust I don't see why they wouldn't do it. Northstar has an ego.
Actually I do have a great deal number of JSA and Flash comics. Hell, when Jay met Zoom again he was quickly beaten and used to power the treadmill [Black Flash is the one of the best looking "death" personna". If it was bloodlust Shaman or Talisman could enter people's mind and do whatever. Shaman is capable of doing this, but he swore he would never alter a persons mind.
When he shrinks them and sticks him in the bag, not even Talisman could get out without the Stranger helping. He has shown to take other people's magic, but he has not been shown to do this much so not sure if he can still do this. He even has the power to banish people to different dimensions
i thought his full-strength was downgraded, since they made him to strong.
No, check most of the recent threads. I have stated multiple times Sasquatch would lose certain battles (Hercules, Juggernaut) and even said they would lose this fight. Get your facts straight.