1. No, no psyker can oblitterate a planet. That is simply not a power they have. Unless you mean that they sometimes act as a starting point of a massive Chaos invasion which THEN destroys the planet... but that's just allowing the actions of another force.
2. No, there aren't trillions of them.
That's the two ways in which hat is incorrect.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
1. No, no psyker can oblitterate a planet. That is simply not a power they have. Unless you mean that they sometimes act as a starting point of a massive Chaos invasion which THEN destroys the planet... but that's just allowing the actions of another force.2. No, there aren't trillions of them.
That's the two ways in which hat is incorrect.
A psyker can obliterate a planet. In Draco an Alpha-level Psyker annihalates a planet, then gets possessed by warp demons and dies. Draco stops the rogue psyker from corrupting the wards around the Black ship, because he knows that they would cause untold destruction to the surrounding Segmentum.
Right, so you have one unique example there, purely for plot purposes. It's not actually a general ability as recognised by the system, is it? Even the most powerful psykers you can get in the game have to make effort to kill one person. To ascribe them planet-killing powers is like saying Jedi can destroy armies by waving their hands.
Oh wait, Yoda did that in the Clone Wars cartoons. Guess that counts then!
Not to mention the fact that any psyker showing one-hundredth of that power in the Imperium would be executed, so he wouldn't be used in their armed forces.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Right, so you have one unique example there, purely for plot purposes. It's not actually a general ability as recognised by the system, is it? Even the most powerful psykers you can get in the game have to make effort to kill one person. To ascribe them planet-killing powers is like saying Jedi can destroy armies by waving their hands.Oh wait, Yoda did that in the Clone Wars cartoons. Guess that counts then!
Not to mention the fact that any psyker showing one-hundredth of that power in the Imperium would be executed, so he wouldn't be used in their armed forces.
Yet it is part of the Warhammer "canon" so to speak. That it the purpose of having Black Ships, to stop untrained psykers from being possessed and murdering people. Possibly destroying planets. A small percentage are trained properly are are soul-bound to the Emperor.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Like I say, they don't destroy planets by their own power, they simply act as a gateway for invasion.The system clearly shows that psykers are not that powerful- even remotely so. The Imperial armies contain no psykers of that power. Not even close. And your 'trillions' comment is amazingly off.
It depends, there are trillions of alpha-level psykers in the Imperium. Only about a million would be capable of obliterating a planet, and then a tiny portion capable of surviving it.
Even if one percent of them were psykers- which is a massive over-estimate- then only a tiny fraction of that fraction would be Alpha level. And the Galaxy is not unified- much of it fights itself.
And the powers of such people are defined by the system, and what they can do is hurt people, many people, but they have not the power to win battles single handed (because they are designed for a game system, so that would be dumb; they are costed according to their power, and there are many things more powerful) so even this tiny tiny elite, most of whom would be executed on sight, do not have anything close to planet-destroying power.
It's just conceptually against how the 40K universe works. Thew most powerful psyker of all is the Emperor, and what did he do in the prime of his life? He fought people man to man, because no psyker has the power to wreak such remote havoc. His final fight with Horus was more like a Lightsabre duel than a planet-destroying battle.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Sorry, Traya, but it is simply untrue that there are trillions of people who can destory planets in the Warhammer Universe. I don't know how else to put it- it is wrong.You will note that when the Imperium wants to take out worlds in Warhammher, it... invades them with troops. It does not destroy them with one of these trillions of imaginary beings you made up.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Like I say, they don't destroy planets by their own power, they simply act as a gateway for invasion.The system clearly shows that psykers are not that powerful- even remotely so. The Imperial armies contain no psykers of that power.
being a avid fan of both warhammer and star wars, i will have to say that the imperium will have the upper hand in this battle, they are not guaranteed to win but most likely will. just on the fact they have billions of guardsmen, thousand of space marines, and thousand of witch hunters and the massive artillery support that they, in my opinion in this battle they really don't need due to the fact of there armed forces. oh yeah they also have psykers who most may not be the greatest but can prove useful in battle
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
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