Out of all of Batman more powerful enemies, why does the Joker top the list?
Mostly all of Batman's other enemies are phisically stronger and/or are even mentally stronger and smarter than either Batman or the Joker are.
Why is that?
I mean i love the Joker, i just don't get it. I mean, wouldn't your worst enemy be the strongest and smartest, basically the most powerful/the biggest threat, and i dunno if Joker is the most powerful.
Originally posted by Doc Ock
Well let's see now-He's the enemy Batman has faced the most and causes the most trouble
-He killed Robin
-He crippled Barbara Gordon
-He killed Sarah EssenNeed I go on???
i forget...He killed freakin Robin, batmans little side kick, the boy wonder. That is harsh. Not to mention he turned the that drake Robin into his adopted son. (batman beyond movie). Plus:
-armed robberies
-murders
-tastes for the theatrics
Originally posted by TMACalicious
He may not be the strongest or the most physically gifted, but I reckon he has the mind of a true genius-slash-criminal-mastermind.
but thats the thing.
Batman has smarter villains that are more genius than the joker could ever be. Villains set on global domination.
Joker mostly seems to only threaten Gotham at most.
But at best just mostly parts of Gotham.
I believe it was always personal on some level or another. Like, the Joker wouldn't just attack Gotham for the fun of it, he'd do it to draw Batman out. Like a tease or something. I'm pretty sure that if someone screwed with innocent people just to get you pissed off that he'd be at the top of your list.
Originally posted by ArthasKnight
I believe it was always personal on some level or another. Like, the Joker wouldn't just attack Gotham for the fun of it, he'd do it to draw Batman out. Like a tease or something. I'm pretty sure that if someone screwed with innocent people just to get you pissed off that he'd be at the top of your list.
exactly!!
i dunno if this would count but in Batman Beyond:return of joker, the new Bats talks to the Joker...saying stuff like how the old batman never talks or comments about Joker at all: to get him pissed off, Joker just wants to get batman's attension.
Originally posted by ArthasKnight
I believe it was always personal on some level or another. Like, the Joker wouldn't just attack Gotham for the fun of it, he'd do it to draw Batman out. Like a tease or something. I'm pretty sure that if someone screwed with innocent people just to get you pissed off that he'd be at the top of your list.
I dunno about that. I always thought the Joker always tried to avoid drawing out Batman in order to complete his heists and crime sprees. Isn't he always pissed when Batman shows up, but then he gets happy after quickly thinking up of a plan to get rid of him..?
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I dunno about that. I always thought the Joker always tried to avoid drawing out Batman in order to complete his heists and crime sprees. Isn't he always pissed when Batman shows up, but then he gets happy after quickly thinking up of a plan to get rid of him..?
Well the way I saw it was that the Joker would come up with one plot or another but also tie it into some sort of trap for Batman so that when he did arrive he was set up. You know, Batman shows up and Joker gets pissed and runs away only to actually be leading Batman into a trap and then he gets happy 'cause his plan worked. Well, except that Batman always got away.
Originally posted by Silverstein
exactly!!i dunno if this would count but in Batman Beyond:return of joker, the new Bats talks to the Joker...saying stuff like how the old batman never talks or comments about Joker at all: to get him pissed off, Joker just wants to get batman's attension.
Yes it counts. Btas should never be ignored! grr.. hehe. 😠
Lex Luthor isn't the most physically strong enemy of Superman's, but he's the arch-rival too. The Joker is the main enemy not only because of popularity, but because of what he stands for. Batman is insanity for the right reasons, Joker is insanity for the wrong reasons. There's a connection between the two that always thrives on the other. If Batman were to kill Joker the first time he saw him, he wouldn't be the Batman we know today.
Another reason Jack is the arch is because of his intelligence. I'd argue that booksmart-wise, the most intelligent villain is The Riddler, however, The Joker is the type of intelligence that Batman is - common sense and psychoanalysis. The Joker knows exactly what buttons to press, and he's booksmart enough to devise evil plans that would without a doubt work (and sometimes do), make up Joker toxins and whatnot...etc etc.
And Joker's the man lol
Joker's is Batman's exact opposite - colourful, extravagant, chaotic, unrepressed. His relationship with Bat's is so twisted that often he tries not to kill him - it would mean the end of the game he loves to play with him.
Things got more disturbing by the 1980's though, after Dark Knight. We come to appreciate Joker entertains himself by causing deaths in the hundreds, even thousands, and would gleefully continue whenever possible. Then, he crossed a line with Batman that can't go back - murdering Jason Todd. This has built up such guilt and rage in Batman, I wonder why he doesn't pop sometimes. Because not killing the Joker has just meant more and more death, which could have been prevented. Someday, DC will have to find a way to resolve this; kill the Joker? FOR REAL?