Originally posted by soleran30
Just because you are wealthy doesn't mean you shouldn't find someone who has more then you to contribute rather then your own money. I would be willing to bet alot of these rich people do donate money to the things that "move" them. Anway it doesn't matter its a big thing for AIDS help and Africa.
Well what you're "willing to bet" doesn't really factor. I've got no evidence of these rich people doing things to constantly help the causes they love.
They ask us though. Point being, if you're gonna be all about wanting to change, YOU make it happen. It's sad, the state of the world, I agree. But I've not chosen to make a change in it, Bono has tried and IS trying to. So why not dip into his own pocket?
His heart can be in the right place all day long, he's asking others for money when the man has a £100 million plus worth and will get more.
-AC
uh huh
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Well what you're "willing to bet" doesn't really factor. I've got no evidence of these rich people doing things to constantly help the causes they love.They ask us though. Point being, if you're gonna be all about wanting to change, YOU make it happen. It's sad, the state of the world, I agree. But I've not chosen to make a change in it, Bono has tried and IS trying to. So why not dip into his own pocket?
His heart can be in the right place all day long, he's asking others for money when the man has a £100 million plus worth and will get more.
-AC
Yup I pick up what your putting down however I don't see the poor from Africa petioning and winning over world leaders.....change comes one small step at a time........Brad Pitt one time said something similar to what you are appealing to .......the media asked him about China and he responded something to the point of " I'm an actor who gives a shit what I think"
Then he did 7 years in tibet which had a huge political statement so anyway good stuff for Africa regardless of how it comes and congrats Mr Bush.....if I voted for Bush can I get free U2 tickets?
Well my point was, how can you continually ask for change and actively accept the role of fighting for these people from your huge mansion, without using your own cash? If all those Live 8 organisers (Bono, Geldof, Madonna etc) banded together, they could do major things. Haven't though.
Spelljammer, get off me. Serious. Why call me a troll when I actually have evidence of you trying to get people against me? Let's stop this. It must be embarassing for you.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Well my point was, how can you continually ask for change and actively accept the role of fighting for these people from your huge mansion, without using your own cash? If all those Live 8 organisers (Bono, Geldof, Madonna etc) banded together, they could do major things. Haven't though.Spelljammer, get off me. Serious. Why call me a troll when I actually have evidence of you trying to get people against me? Let's stop this. It must be embarassing for you.
-AC
I have a hard time asking the wealthy to step down and donate what they have.....that said I understand what you are saying and to a certain extent agree however that money has "pull" if you will and there is no way Bono has 15 billion sitting there but being the figure he is with some capital now he is a resource for people who need more simply because the wealthy need him🙂
SpellJammer is not getting anybody against you, you do that well enough on your own.
Infact SpellJammer kindof agrees with you. Celebreties don't do enough. But that's as a whole, not individualy. Bono is a great motivational speaker, he does charities, and is an overall good person. Like John Travolta, and the like.
They can't be heald responsible for lunatics like Mel Gibson who waste thier money..
Psychos like Tom Cruise who try to instill a radical opinion into every mind..
Or sonsabitches like Brittny Spears who just don't care. Not even about thier own personal dignity..
Hollywood as a whole is very disgusting and ill willed. It's a loud expression of our society.
And instead of bashing everything, you should try in your own way to be more like those who are immune to that corruption.. Everyone helps the Earth differantly, that doesn't make you useless..
Originally posted by Spelljammer
SpellJammer is not getting anybody against you, you do that well enough on your own.Infact SpellJammer kindof agrees with you. Celebreties don't do enough. But that's as a whole, not individualy. Bono is a great motivational speaker, he does charities, and is an overall good person. Like John Travolta, and the like.
They can't be heald responsible for lunatics like Mel Gibson who waste thier money..
Psychos like Tom Cruise who try to instill a radical opinion into every mind..
Or sonsabitches like Brittny Spears who just don't care. Not even about thier own personal dignity..Hollywood as a whole is very disgusting and ill willed. It's a loud expression of our society.
And instead of bashing everything, you should try in your own way to be more like those who are immune to that corruption.. Everyone helps the Earth differantly, that doesn't make you useless..
DAMN Spelljammer well said.....
Originally posted by soleran30
I have a hard time asking the wealthy to step down and donate what they have.....that said I understand what you are saying and to a certain extent agree however that money has "pull" if you will and there is no way Bono has 15 billion sitting there but being the figure he is with some capital now he is a resource for people who need more simply because the wealthy need him🙂
Well I'm not saying they have to give their money away. I'm saying if they put themselves in the situation of being this spokesman/woman, they should chip in significantly and they do not.
Originally posted by Spelljammer
SpellJammer is not getting anybody against you, you do that well enough on your own.
The legendary PVS pm. I'll say no more.
Originally posted by Spelljammer
Infact SpellJammer kindof agrees with you. Celebreties don't do enough. But that's as a whole, not individualy. Bono is a great motivational speaker, he does charities, and is an overall good person. Like John Travolta, and the like.
I can stand up and talk my legs off, it's not gonna change anything. Motivinating everyone else to pay up is fine and dandy, I wanna see him do some.
How can you say he's a good person? You don't know anything besides the image he portrays on TV. For someone as anti-sheep as you (allegedly) I find this ironic.
Originally posted by Spelljammer
They can't be heald responsible for lunatics like Mel Gibson who waste thier money..
Waste? He spends it on things he believes in which is more than I can say for Geldof and Co.
Originally posted by Spelljammer
Psychos like Tom Cruise who try to instill a radical opinion into every mind..
Or sonsabitches like Brittny Spears who just don't care. Not even about thier own personal dignity..
Yes but why is this relevant?
Originally posted by Spelljammer
Hollywood as a whole is very disgusting and ill willed. It's a loud expression of our society.And instead of bashing everything, you should try in your own way to be more like those who are immune to that corruption.. Everyone helps the Earth differantly, that doesn't make you useless..
If I wanna help someone or a cause, I do. As much as I realistically can.
Bono doesn't.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Well I'm not saying they have to give their money away. I'm saying if they put themselves in the situation of being this spokesman/woman, they should chip in significantly and they do not.The legendary PVS pm. I'll say no more.
I can stand up and talk my legs off, it's not gonna change anything. Motivinating everyone else to pay up is fine and dandy, I wanna see him do some.
How can you say he's a good person? You don't know anything besides the image he portrays on TV. For someone as anti-sheep as you (allegedly) I find this ironic.
Waste? He spends it on things he believes in which is more than I can say for Geldof and Co.
Yes but why is this relevant?
If I wanna help someone or a cause, I do. As much as I realistically can.
Bono doesn't.
-AC
But what about big brother, celebs do lots of good!
-diana
Well I'm not saying they have to give their money away. I'm saying if they put themselves in the situation of being this spokesman/woman, they should chip in significantly and they do not.
Yup and I wish I had some info on that except I am not digging for all that info.... I believe that most of these celebs do contribute of course I could be wrong however no one leads anyone to a battle without putting in their "dues."
Originally posted by Spelljammer
He [b]does share his wealth. He donated 15,000,000 dollars to Africa.Why not aim your hate at celebreties who don't do shit and spew nothing but lude and debautchery throughout thier careers?
Ohwait, that's chicken soup for the liberal soul (or lack thereoff..) SpellJammer forgot.. [/B]
You didn't read the article, at least not carefully.
Bono heaped praise on Bush for providing $15 billion to help fight AIDS in Africa
Bush and the US donated $15 billion, NOT Bono.