Kyp vs Kyle

Which, most of the jedi sucked. ANd it IS a video game. TEchnically Bastila Shan level 40 can wipe the floor with Malak. Doesn't make it so.

Originally posted by Tru_Slice
Jaden was a Jedi Knight at the time of the battle.

Don't forget, Jaden was better than most of the jedi at the time.

Big deal. Jaden would be FLOORED by Kyp. Kyp has defeated Luke before.

Yeah, I'm sure that Kyp would PWN Jaden, but that's not my point.

It's Kudos to the guy wih the most experience here, and that is Kyle.

Kyp defeated hundreds, if not thousands of Yuuzhan Vong while Kyle was rotting away in jail. Kyp defeated everyone else in sparring. He has control over black holes for pete sake. Kyle is pwned.

Originally posted by Deus Ex
Which, most of the jedi sucked. ANd it IS a video game. TEchnically Bastila Shan level 40 can wipe the floor with Malak. Doesn't make it so.

You can in KOTOR II. Bastila Shan mod... level 40 or 50 cap. And you can import Malak's model and fight his ass in the arena mod.

I really gotta play KOTOR II.

For PC anyways... Then you can mod it up.

I have more fun modding the game than playing it.

Definately.

Here I show my Computer-Ignorance............................mod?

Modification to the game.

Ah.

ya kyp would win this

I think Kyp wins, but i don't think he wins it by a lot if we use the Jedi Knight series as a reference. In that, Luke is nowhere close to the power that Kyle has, Kyle also took Desann, someone Luke couldn't touch, True, Kyp beat Luke, but he had help from a Sith Lord. I think Kyp wins because he's younger, though that's no knock on Kyle's experience

Crap this is a good battle, really hard 🙁 But i think kyp would win this.

Kyle Katarn would demolish kyp easy!!!!!!he's bin to the valley of the jedi
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Well...
I think Kyle would defeat Kyp.

Kyle:
- was one of the best mercenaries in the Galaxy before becoming a force user
- he did basically destroy the entire Dark Trooper project on his own (killing several hundrets of stormtroopers, officers and even some Dark Troopers in the process).
- in "Jedi Knight" he developed swordfighting abilities and force skills good enough to defeat 7 Dark Jedi one of them being trained by Jucasta Nu, Vader and the Emperor himself (Jerec) - and he did that without real Jedi training (again wasting hundrets of opponents in the process) - note that he cut Jerec's connection to the force, something that we have only seen Nomi Sunrider doing before as a single person.
- he went to the Dark Side in MOTS
- after that he returned to his mercenary live for some amount of time and he was using some "bloodthirsty" tactics during that time period (destroying an entire imperial base on Tatooine - only one survivor)
- in "Jedi Knight II" he defeated Desann (who did "defeated" Luke before) and his army of Dark Jedi - and he stepped into the Valley of the Jedi's core energy beam which should actually have given him some force powers
- when Jaden Korr wents Dark Side in Jedi Academy Kyle throws him through an entire room and Jaden isn't even able to kill Kyle when using his own powers and Ragnos' szepter against him.
- during NJO times he defeated one of the Emperors hand

Well...Kyle has much more experience when it comes to fighting (or fighting force users) compared to Kyp and considering the fact that he became good enough in the force to defeat some Dark Jedi without training he must have a noticeable amount of force potential. Combine that with his combat training and the experience from his career as a mercenary and I guess that would be enough to defeat Kyp (although Kyp might have a greater potential or at least better force powers).

Originally posted by truejedi
I think Kyp wins, but i don't think he wins it by a lot if we use the Jedi Knight series as a reference. In that, Luke is nowhere close to the power that Kyle has, Kyle also took Desann, someone Luke couldn't touch, True, Kyp beat Luke, but he had help from a Sith Lord. I think Kyp wins because he's younger, though that's no knock on Kyle's experience

the whole luke not being able to touch dessan has been discussewd before and no luke would take him but he wanted to redeem him not kill him. just pointing that out. and still i say kyp would win

Originally posted by Borbarad
Well...
I think Kyle would defeat Kyp.

I disagree.

Originally posted by Borbarad
Kyle:
- was one of the best mercenaries in the Galaxy before becoming a force user

Kyle has the advantage here.

Originally posted by Borbarad
- he did basically destroy the entire Dark Trooper project on his own (killing several hundrets of stormtroopers, officers and even some Dark Troopers in the process).

Kyp took out hundreds, if not thousands of Yuuzhan Vong, which are more capable than a Stormtrooper and probably about equal to a Phase One Dark Trooper, in one-on-one combat.

Originally posted by Borbarad
- in "Jedi Knight" he developed swordfighting abilities and force skills good enough to defeat 7 Dark Jedi one of them being trained by Jucasta Nu, Vader and the Emperor himself (Jerec) - and he did that without real Jedi training (again wasting hundrets of opponents in the process) - note that he cut Jerec's connection to the force, something that we have only seen Nomi Sunrider doing before as a single person.

Kyp was able to knock Luke out of his body with only two weeks of training. Luke at this time could have defeated any of the people Kyle defeated.

Originally posted by Borbarad
- he went to the Dark Side in MOTS

Kyp went Darkside too. Why does this matter?

Originally posted by Borbarad
- after that he returned to his mercenary live for some amount of time and he was using some "bloodthirsty" tactics during that time period (destroying an entire imperial base on Tatooine - only one survivor)

Kyp killed billions of stormtroopers in search of his brother. He took out an ISD by himself. He also took control of a black hole to fight the Vong. I'll put that above taking out an Imperial Base.

Originally posted by Borbarad
- in "Jedi Knight II" he defeated Desann (who did "defeated" Luke before) and his army of Dark Jedi - and he stepped into the Valley of the Jedi's core energy beam which should actually have given him some force powers

Kyp could have done the same thing. Kyp also defeated Luke. Also, Luke wasn't trying his hardest as far as I could tell.

Originally posted by Borbarad
- when Jaden Korr wents Dark Side in Jedi Academy Kyle throws him through an entire room and Jaden isn't even able to kill Kyle when using his own powers and Ragnos' szepter against him.

The Darkside ending isn't canon and doesn't mean much. Tavion wasn't able to defeat Jaden when using Ragnos' Scepter. This was also after the Scepter had spent energy summoning Ragnos.

Originally posted by Borbarad
- during NJO times he defeated one of the Emperors hand

Small talk. Kyp could have wasted any of them.

Originally posted by Borbarad
Well...Kyle has much more experience when it comes to fighting (or fighting force users) compared to Kyp and considering the fact that he became good enough in the force to defeat some Dark Jedi without training he must have a noticeable amount of force potential. Combine that with his combat training and the experience from his career as a mercenary and I guess that would be enough to defeat Kyp (although Kyp might have a greater potential or at least better force powers).

Kyp took out Luke in just two weeks. Also, may I remind you that Kyp has been canonly stated as the second best in the NJO. This puts him above Kyle, you can't argue it.