Originally posted by Beyonder
Equals? He said what he said. Times and feats have changed what he said. Heck, Starlin had to write all Thanos' ridiculous defeats, by beings lower than him to, into Thanos' clones. He reckonned all lower feats other writters did by writting it into continuity. Otherwise, his statements still contradict alot of continuity.Kirby is also a creator of many other heroes and villains. But what he says doesn't necessarily make it so until it's written into continuity. Darkseid = Galactus, but Superman beats up Darkseid on numerous occasions. Well so what happened? Superman can beat Darkseid. Well Galactus, however, stomps on Surfer, Morg, and Terrax ever time they get out of hand.
The thread references PRE CRISIS Darkseid. That means all feats up to but not including the events that happened post crisis, retcons be damned.
Its exactly the same thing as specifying CLASSIC Juggernaut or Pre Retcon Beyonder when making a thread.
And PC supes has NEVER taken out PC Darkseid.
Originally posted by Juntai
Darkseid is Darkseid, there is no pre-c post-c, just high and low showings. He avoided the crisis rewrite and no ammount of arguing is changing the facts of DC's continuity.
It doesnt matter, his best showings and highest power level was PreCrisis Darkseid and we are taking his best feats, and he was beyond Rune King Thor. Now he would get smashed.
Originally posted by XplosiveAt full power, he is what most people call Pre Crisis Darkseid... its not a matter of WHEN, because it's the same guy, it's a matter of power, and at full power, which he was before the crisis, as the thread states... yes, he obliterates RKT.
It doesnt matter, his best showings and highest power level was PreCrisis Darkseid and we are taking his best feats, and he was beyond Rune King Thor. Now he would get smashed.
Originally posted by Xplosive
Killing and making Gods nothing, and making The Source feel pain tell me, what had Galactus done compared to that. And Kirby said, PC Darkseid equals full powered Galactus, I think that should be enough. Everyone fearad PC Darkseid. Tell me what has Celestial done to put him beyond PC Darkseid.Not really, Thanos was the one who really tapped to God power, and made a joke out of Akhenaten. I think he was in leageue of Celestail.
And Celestial has alreday crushed Odin. And Thanos gave a fight to Odin, while normal Galactus made a joke out of Thanos in few seconds, he was playing with him.
Originally posted by Xplosive
Killing and making Gods nothing, and making The Source feel pain tell me, what had Galactus done compared to that. And Kirby said, PC Darkseid equals full powered Galactus, I think that should be enough. Everyone fearad PC Darkseid. Tell me what has Celestial done to put him beyond PC Darkseid.
Wow, is that why PC Darkseid got stuck inside the Source Wall? Why Metron had to free him? Yuga-Khan has breach the Wall and freed himself from it.
A Celestial used planets are weapons against Thanos w/ the IG. Manisfesting shells to operate in the regular universe, real body existence in hyperspace dimension. The birth of a Celestial made High Evolutionary go insane.
Not really, Thanos was the one who really tapped to God power, and made a joke out of Akhenaten. I think he was in leageue of Celestail.
And Celestial has alreday crushed Odin. And Thanos gave a fight to Odin, while normal Galactus made a joke out of Thanos in few seconds, he was playing with him. [/B]
Odin also rocked the multiverse. Beyonder and Molecule Man wrecked planes of existence.
Only after Thanos jumped into the machine and shrugged with Akhenaten and took that power.
Originally posted by Beyonder
Wow, is that why PC Darkseid got stuck inside the Source Wall? Why Metron had to free him? Yuga-Khan has breach the Wall and freed himself from it.A Celestial used planets are weapons against Thanos w/ the IG. Manisfesting shells to operate in the regular universe, real body existence in hyperspace dimension. The birth of a Celestial made High Evolutionary go insane.
Odin also rocked the multiverse. Beyonder and Molecule Man wrecked planes of existence.
Only after Thanos jumped into the machine and shrugged with Akhenaten and took that power.
P C D waved a hand and beat a lord of chaos 🙂
Originally posted by Juntai
At full power, he is what most people call Pre Crisis Darkseid... its not a matter of WHEN, because it's the same guy, it's a matter of power, and at full power, which he was before the crisis, as the thread states... yes, he obliterates RKT.
Please stop with this bs. Pre-Crisis refers to before Crisis. Hell, way before this comic board came to existence. Other boards like Comixtreme, Comicbookresuorces, and Superherochat.net have referred to before Crisis as Pre-Crisis Darkseid.
Also Darkseid has went into the source and merged with the wall, and came back more than just once.
In fact, if you'd seen many of the times they go to the wall, he is STILL part of it, and back at home base...
He can just make another avatar.
Both Galactus and Darkseid are equal when at full power. they can slay gods with ease.. RKT is among these gods.
However, lately with Darkseid and always with Galactus... they are not at full power, and get defeated by normally miniscule characters who are otherwise ants to them.
Originally posted by BeyonderHowever they are wrong, Darkseid is Darkseid. See... with most other DC characters there is PRE and POST versions, there is only Darkseid when concerning the master of Apocalypse however, and there merely is high and low power moments. I'm attempting to establish the distinction.
Please stop with this bs. Pre-Crisis refers to before Crisis. Hell, way before this comic board came to existence. Other boards like Comixtreme, Comicbookresuorces, and Superherochat.net have referred to before Crisis as Pre-Crisis Darkseid.
Originally posted by Xplosive
1.HOTU or TOAA
2.Phoenix Force
3.Living Tribunal
4.Abstracts
5.Galactus/Pre Crisis Darkseid
6.Celestials
7.Watchers
8.Skyfathers