WW's Lasso Real Test

Started by Juntai3 pages

Originally posted by long pig
I've only saw it broke once, by Bizarro. And it was implied to be able to be broken by The Queen of Fables.

But, it's pretty consistently indestructible.

What comic? I've never seen anything break it, save for the short time Truth didn't exist.

Originally posted by long pig
NJ, I don't think Cyttorak is above the Enchantment of the rope.

But, it doesn't matter, it's not like it'd keep jug from moving forward.

I'm just asking in general what is it's highest level od showing against an attack I mean I doubt it would stand up to Galactus or Eternity or other high level beings that are above the Greek Pantheon if they made it.

Originally posted by newjak86
I'm just asking in general what is it's highest level od showing against an attack I mean I doubt it would stand up to Galactus or Eternity or other high level beings that are above the Greek Pantheon if they made it.
They pulled the moon with it...?

Originally posted by Juntai
They pulled the moon with it...?
OK and Galactus has the potential to destroy a galaxy.

From Juggernaut to Galactus eh?

Originally posted by The Ion
From Juggernaut to Galactus eh?
No from my original question to now how can the Lasso be indestructible past the source of its power which I don't see how it can. I still think Trion could break it as Cyttorak is above Skyfather and therefore could possibly be able to break it by overcoming the magic it possesses.
That is what I'm saying it can not be stronger than the beings that emopwered it and simply asked what is the higest level of attack or effort that was ever put on it.

Originally posted by Juntai
What comic? I've never seen anything break it, save for the short time Truth didn't exist.

Bizarro did, but that's it.

I don't remember the comic at all, I just remember him breaking it and everything was bright red. Sorry.

D.C isn't my forte...😬

And what I'm saying, it's that it's proven that only by truth not existing, can the rope be broken.

Originally posted by long pig
Bizarro did, but that's it.

I don't remember the comic at all, I just remember him breaking it and everything was bright red. Sorry.

D.C isn't my forte...😬

I doubt it happened in continuum.

Originally posted by Juntai
And what I'm saying, it's that it's proven that only by truth not existing, can the rope be broken.
But as you said the Greek Gods created it and therefore logically anyone stronger than them can break it since they can overcome the enchantment placed on it.

It may not have been. Or it was just shitty writing.

WonderWoman's rope has stayed true to being indestructible for 50 years.

Originally posted by long pig
Bizarro did, but that's it.

I don't remember the comic at all, I just remember him breaking it and everything was bright red. Sorry.

D.C isn't my forte...😬


Bizarro himself is a lie. That's why he overcame it. It wasn't a strength thing at all.

Originally posted by newjak86
But as you said the Greek Gods created it and therefore logically anyone stronger than them can break it since they can overcome the enchantment placed on it.
What YOU think is logical, and what is actual, are two different things. The only time I've ever seen it broke in comics, is when Truth itself was unfolding, and so did the lasso. Beyond that, you still can't physically overcome magic.

Let it be known there is no logic in comics.

I know next to nothing about it, other than what i've read on this forum. So now i'm going to be presumptious and assume some things. Please feel free to tell me if i'm assuming incorrectly.

The lasso is enchanted right?
By the greek gods right?
It has a connection to the universal abstract known as truth right?
That's why it can't be broken right?
Because that would mean breaking an abstract right?
But can the connection between the lasso and the universal abstract known as truth be broken?
That would not imply harming the abstract itself in any way.
It would simply imply bypassing the enchantment on it. Severing the link between the lasso and that universal abstract right?

If what i said is true, then the lasso can in fact be broken. Not the abstract, but the lasso. Like Superman. Assuming nobody could destroy the sun, cut his connection to the sun somehow, and he can be broken.

~wickerman~

Originally posted by Wickerman
I know next to nothing about it, other than what i've read on this forum. So now i'm going to be presumptious and assume some things. Please feel free to tell me if i'm assuming incorrectly.

The lasso is enchanted right?
By the greek gods right?
It has a connection to the universal abstract known as truth right?
That's why it can't be broken right?
Because that would mean breaking an abstract right?
But can the connection between the lasso and the universal abstract known as truth be broken?
That would not imply harming the abstract itself in any way.
It would simply imply bypassing the enchantment on it. Severing the link between the lasso and that universal abstract right?

If what i said is true, then the lasso can in fact be broken. Not the abstract, but the lasso. Like Superman. Assuming nobody could destroy the sun, cut his connection to the sun somehow, and he can be broken.

~wickerman~

If he could do that, why not just turn her back into clay by overcoming all of the gods enchantments on HER?

Originally posted by Juntai
If he could do that, why not just turn her back into clay by overcoming all of the gods enchantments on HER?

Who .......... juggernaut? No way mon ami, i never meant that HE could do it. I don't think Cain's aware of his abilities, and even if he was, i doubt he could do anything like that. Either way, my point was that if a being of higher order than the ones that placed the enchantments can break the enchantments, then the lasso is nothing more than a lasso right? And WW is clay 😗

~wickerman~

Originally posted by Wickerman
Who .......... juggernaut? No way mon ami, i never meant that HE could do it. I don't think Cain's aware of his abilities, and even if he was, i doubt he could do anything like that. Either way, my point was that if a being of higher order than the ones that placed the enchantments can break the enchantments, then the lasso is nothing more than a lasso right? And WW is clay 😗

~wickerman~

Zues [as well as the other greek gods] is an elder god in DC, the only person I've seen proven to be higher level than this is Darkseid at full power [known on the forum mostly as Pre Crisis as thats when he was more or less always at full power] or Spectre. I don't know of any other beings considered above Elder Gods.

Originally posted by The Ion
Bizarro himself is a lie. That's why he overcame it. It wasn't a strength thing at all.

It wasn't a comic at all it was a actual book called the Trinity which shows how Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman first met it isn't canon. The whole setup is that Ra Al Ghul (Batmans enemy) unfreezes Bizzaro to help him start a nuclear holocaust and he gets Artemis(the amazon) to help teach his men to fight. It holds no truth to how they all really first met it's basically like a what if if you really think about it. The scene in which Bizzaro broke the lasso was crap he just became enraged when it was around him and flexed and it snapped. The whole book was crap WW gets her head kicked in by Bizzaro and Batman beats his a** it also has her getting owned by Ra Al Ghul in a sword fight 🙄 . He could have never broken it in fact it should have been even more powerful against him since Bizzaro in himself is a lie. But in the scenario here the lasso is infinite length so Juggernaut and Gladiator would just keep going and going.

Well I guess we have a case of PIS then. I've never seen said comic in question but I could imagine why Bizarro wouldn't be affected by the lasso.