Thor vs Superman no not really its Zauriel

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Thor vs Superman no not really its Zauriel

I decided to do this thread since Zauriel is a really interesting character and has enough power I think to fight Thor. He stalemated Superman and beat the rest of the league which is pretty good. Since Thor and Superman fights are always really close in this forum and could go either way. Both Thor and him have similiar abilities. Superstrenght class 100 (according to Draco thats what Zauriels is at) Invulnerability. flight Zauriel can travel past Mach speeds. Magical weapons. Tons of experaince both in the millions (well maybe no thor but almost). Both powered by godly magic. But Zauriel has that sonic scream and thor his weather powers. So who takes this. And actaully do some research just don't say Thor because he's thor and hes marvel and don't just say Zauriel cause your anti-thor.

Wow hmmm Mjolnir has the win but just straight thor he loses

Hmm, after some thought, I've decided to give this to Zauriel.
While Thor is probably physically stronger, Zauriel is strong enough to hold his own but that isn't how this fight will end up. We have Mjolnir vs a Flaming sword from heaven. Fighting ability, Thunder god vs Guardian Angel from beyond time. Using magic against Zauriel should be near useless, but there isn't much Thor can do against the Sonic cry. The other thing is that Zauriel can't be KO. He has never lost consciousness and can be aware of multiple things at once. Something not to be trifled with in a battle.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Hmm, after some thought, I've decided to give this to Zauriel.
While Thor is probably physically stronger, Zauriel is strong enough to hold his own but that isn't how this fight will end up. We have Mjolnir vs a Flaming sword from heaven. Fighting ability, Thunder god vs Guardian Angel from beyond time. Using magic against Zauriel should be near useless, but there isn't much Thor can do against the Sonic cry. The other thing is that Zauriel can't be KO. He has never lost consciousness and can be aware of multiple things at once. Something not to be trifled with in a battle.

Damn, for once I agree. The flaming sword is pretty freaking sweet, and Zauriel definitely knows how to use it. he's one of the few heroes who has actually been around a lot longer than Thor. And never getting KOed is always useful. Zauriel's quite a guy...

Haven't other angels resisted the cry? If they can, I think a friggin full fledged God could do the same. Thor wins. Besides, Zauriel is only... what, class 20 or so? Yeah, I don't see him carrying on much of a slugfest with Thor.

He's Class 100.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
He's Class 100.

According to the comics, or according to Draco?

I have read this, and I know it is not official, but these guys have really investigated things:

http://braveandthebold.net/characters/traits/6213.html&section=Powers

And didn't he lift a train or something?

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
I have read this, and I know it is not official, but these guys have really investigated things:

http://braveandthebold.net/characters/traits/6213.html&section=Powers


Wow, okay then. So, he has high end strength, but it also says that his sonic cry only carries about 20 tons of force, and like I thought, causes a massive strain on his physical form.

If Zauriel gets to use the sonic cry, Thor gets to unleash the godforce.

Godforce > Sonic Cry

Still, I call this one almost dead even. Good match.

ppl act like thor pulls the god force outta his pocket. it is not instantaneous. an angel from God or the son of a demigod

zauriel wins

OK, if Thor is going to call for full backing from Odin to bring forth his mightiest powers ever? Zauriel does the same to his father [similar to what happened in Paradise lost battling the renegade angels] and all these powers donothing, then he punches a hole through Thor's chest and sends him to hell. Because if we're actually going by highest levels of power, Zauriel actually cannot in any way whatsoever be affected by any power or move, when drawing in max power from his creator.

If not.

This is one hell of a fight.

Zauriel was one of my favorite characters, he's a pimp.

Originally posted by Khellendros
Haven't other angels resisted the cry? If they can, I think a friggin full fledged God could do the same. Thor wins. Besides, Zauriel is only... what, class 20 or so? Yeah, I don't see him carrying on much of a slugfest with Thor.

Can you show us where an angel has resisted the cry?

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Can you show us where an angel has resisted the cry?
Don't even bother, he also thought Zauriel was class twenty.

Originally posted by Solidus Snake
ppl act like thor pulls the god force outta his pocket. it is not instantaneous. an angel from God or the son of a demigod

zauriel wins

I never said he could pull the godforce "out of his pocket." It's reasonable to assume that its about as difficult for thor to unleash the godforce as it is for Zauriel to use his sonic cry.
It's also not "the full backing and power of odin" its his own godly essence channeled through the hammer.

All things being equal, the godforce should be WAY stronger than Zauriel's sonic attack.

Also: A demigod is defined as the half mortal son of a god. (i.e. hercules) Odin is NOT a demigod. He's a skyfather. Thor is NOT a demigod. he's a full fledged god in his own right.

I think it's dead even between these two going full out without "calling down the full power of the creator" or any other plot devices to win.

Originally posted by Solidus Snake
ppl act like thor pulls the god force outta his pocket. it is not instantaneous. an angel from God or the son of a demigod

Actually, he's the son of a Skyfather and an Elder God. Hercules would be considered a demigod.

EDIT:

* Sonic cry limits

Having given up most of his Angelic powers when he willingly left Heaven, Zauriel was left with some of his former abilities as the chosen Agent of Heaven on Earth. These powers are diminished, though still formidable, and the former Angel is still getting used to the changes. The most profound change has been in his Sonic Cry. Formerly able to use this power when he wished without expending too much energy, the Cry now takes a lot out of him when Zauriel finds no other choice but to use it. He needs about ten seconds to build up the internal power he needs for the Cry to function effectively. He might be able to produce the sonic effect earlier than that 10-second period, but it will be greatly diminished in force. He has to be braced against something to use the Cry, or else while it will still work the force of the shout will knock him back a good few hundred feet. Also, he is only able to call the Sonic Cry once every eight hours, having to rest between each use. Should he try to use the power again before the rest time has elapsed, he will injure himself internally from the over-use of power on a now-mortal frame. He uses this power sparingly, if at all, and only against the worst of foes.


Damn. Zauriel better hope Thor doesn't dodge/absorb it with his hammer/shrug it off. And ten seconds is enough time to get off one hell of a hammer throw.

Originally posted by Khellendros
Actually, he's the son of a Skyfather and an Elder God. Hercules would be considered a demigod.

EDIT:

Damn. Zauriel better hope Thor doesn't dodge/absorb it with his hammer/shrug it off. And ten seconds is enough time to get off one hell of a hammer throw.

What is there to dodge/absorb? 10 seconds with a being who multitasks in ways Thor can't...plus Zauriel can't be KO'd. Thor can...Magic is a joke to Zauriel...he understands it better than Thor does.

so sorry gents

hes not a demigod

the agent of teh father of all creation vs a backwater pantheon that few believe in anymore 🙂

lets see who gets upset

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
What is there to dodge/absorb? 10 seconds with a being who multitasks in ways Thor can't...plus Zauriel can't be KO'd. Thor can...Magic is a joke to Zauriel...he understands it better than Thor does.

I find the "Can't be KO'ed" thing interesting- He can't be knocked out, but he can be killed by conventional means? He's been killed twice already- once by having his head cut off, the other by an orderly WITH A NEEDLE that stopped his heart.

Just because he hasn't been shown to be KTFO doesn't mean it isn't possible. Zauriel's form isn't immune to physical damage, which is what it seems you're implying with the "cant be knocked out" thing.

How does Zauriel "Multitask in ways Thor Can't?"

Originally posted by Space M ummy
I find the "Can't be KO'ed" thing interesting- He can't be knocked out, but he can be killed by conventional means? He's been killed twice already- once by having his head cut off, the other by an orderly WITH A NEEDLE that stopped his heart.

Just because he hasn't been shown to be KTFO doesn't mean it isn't possible. Zauriel's form isn't immune to physical damage, which is what it seems you're implying with the "cant be knocked out" thing.

How does Zauriel "Multitask in ways Thor Can't?"


His "overmind" mind sees all