goku ssj4 vs odin

When you assume, you make an *** of you and me.

there is no reason to think that, having absorbed the DBs, goku is as powerful as odin, and you didn't even give a reason goku should win.

As for contradictions, I'll handle them in the order asked.

1. Spiderman is 40X faster then a normal human. Charaters like batman, with years of training, have reaction times faster then that. In adition, characters like that and predict when he will move, so they apear to move faster then they do.

2. It's entirely possible batman can shatter a tree, considering he has mastery over 127 difffrent forms of martial arts and it almost as strong as Cap. America. Darkseid = Jobberseid but still he's allways holding back when he hits batman, that or batman's wearing a mother box which would make him destinctly superhuman.

3.Superman moveing at lightspeed can often cause drastic damage to the enviroment, ala Shockwaves, so he dosen't do that. However, I can't think of one time that he's been hit with a rocket, exsept to prove a point, or was completely focused in the other direction.

And FTW, All laser beams move a light speed. They are composed of light particles, so it would break General Relativity to go any slower.

4. He's not hiting them with an adimentium chair.... Regardeless, He has no enhanced reflexes and strength. That's all just his training.

Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
When you assume, you make an *** of you and me.

there is no reason to think that, having absorbed the DBs, goku is as powerful as odin, and you didn't even give a reason goku should win.

As for contradictions, I'll handle them in the order asked.

1. Spiderman is 40X faster then a normal human. Charaters like batman, with years of training, have reaction times faster then that. In adition, characters like that and predict when he will move, so they apear to move faster then they do.

2. It's entirely possible batman can shatter a tree, considering he has mastery over 127 difffrent forms of martial arts and it almost as strong as Cap. America. Darkseid = Jobberseid but still he's allways holding back when he hits batman, that or batman's wearing a mother box which would make him destinctly superhuman.

3.Superman moveing at lightspeed can often cause drastic damage to the enviroment, ala Shockwaves, so he dosen't do that. However, I can't think of one time that he's been hit with a rocket, exsept to prove a point, or was completely focused in the other direction.

And FTW, All laser beams move a light speed. They are composed of light particles, so it would break General Relativity to go any slower.

4. He's not hiting them with an adimentium chair.... Regardeless, He has no enhanced reflexes and strength. That's all just his training.

And, you're right about the light and laser thing.
Light is a SOLID, this is a known fact, it's just moving too fast to be solid, but if slowed would have PHYSICAL essence.

Assume he ia as powerful are you ****in crazy!?!

Dude, goku was wayyyyyyy more powerful than that hack sagas ago.

During cell saga he would have made quick work of odin.

His power was insane, odin can't contend with that, and he is a better fighter, so odin can't contend with that.

I've seen american comics/cartoons fighting versus japanese' comics/animes fighting.

The american martail-artist don't even compare to the japanese ones.

That's like you comparing jackie chan to a 90 lb white belt who can't even pass his test for yellow belt.

Dude, goku destroys him.

And batman shattering a tree, did you even see that bigass tree he kicked, its no way he could have did that.
Maybe a little tree as real muayi tai fighters will often developed rock hard shins by kicking a skinnly palm tree over and over evr day for months til they can break it, but batman kicking a hugh oak-looking tree, I seriously doubt it.

And the wolverine inhanced reflexes thing.
Hmm what would you call it if I told you that I trained everyday punching with 40 lb wieghts in each hand and I took them ofF AND COULD PUNCH 10 x faster than anyone.(just using this as an example. can't do this).

Wouldn't you say that counts as inhanced speed through training/drugs/ whatever, the point is its still inhanced speed.

So how are you gonna try to downgrade logans' speed by sayin' its his trainind that makes him so fast, point is he is still inhanced speed.

Batman is peak human speed, but you don't say oh its because of his training so hard, point is he is still peak human speed.

So don't do that to logan.

As for the light thing. There are in fact mant lasers is real life that don't move at light speed, they move really fast but not at light speed. You fail to realize that not all light moves at the same speed some light particles move at much slower speed than others. It strue look it up.

Once again, I repeat myself...
You were saying!?!

If you think that goku can beat a sky father god you are sick in the f**king head. Odin will smite goku with a gesture or with a thought, odin killed a single race with a blast from Asgard in his throne room, and you trying to say that SS4 Goku can f**k with a god that can stop time, open portals to other dimensions, increase his godly powers, erase someone from existence, rearrange molecules and atomic , absorb all life force in Asgard and the nine worlds, cause multi-verse shock waves.

You guys need to ban yourself from this forum for life, really to even think of it is stupid. Odin will wreck some havoc on goku and how is ever stupid enough to f**k with him, he'll make them wish they where never born.

Odin 100/100 and then turns goku into a statue for all eternity.

Originally posted by jplatinum

As for the light thing. There are in fact mant lasers is real life that don't move at light speed, they move really fast but not at light speed. You fail to realize that not all light moves at the same speed some light particles move at much slower speed than others. It strue look it up.

Once again, I repeat myself...
You were saying!?!

laser

n : an acronym for light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation; an optical device that produces an intense monochromatic beam of coherent light

light (lt)
n.

1. Electromagnetic radiation that has a wavelength in the range from about 4,000 (violet) to about 7,700 (red) angstroms and may be perceived by the normal unaided human eye.
2. Electromagnetic radiation of any wavelength.

light speed

n : the speed at which light travels in a vacuum; the constancy and universality of the speed of light is recognized by defining it to be exactly 299,792,458 meters per second [syn: speed of light, {c}]

You were saying?

You continue to have no proof that goku could beat him, just vauge "GOKU IS TEH SHIZZLE MY NIZZZLE!" Statements.

Batman is a weaker martial artest beacuse he's from the west? That's wrong on SO many levels.

Wolverine HAS NO ENHANSED SPEED OR POWER!

No matter how hard he trained, he could never be stronger or faster then Steve Rogers.

I admit that there are some situations where a lazer can move slower then light, but these require a lot of scientific equipment and a normal Laser DOES move at light speed. It seems kinda stupid to spend millions making a laser slower then light then trying to hit superman with it.

Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
It's entirely possible batman can shatter a tree

HAHAHAHHAHA 😱 😆

Next time, how about you contribute to this topic insted of saying you disagree with one of mine.

Goku wins.

Wolverine HAS NO ENHANSED SPEED OR POWER!

actauly that in correct.

also i go with goku on this one

Originally posted by The Ion
Odin has rocked universes with his fights.

Universe > Planets. There, I did the math for you. 🙂

And you did very well would you like ea gold star? 😆

Seriously though you're right Goku gets his head kicked in. Lots of HEROES don't try to destroy the Earth hmm I wonder why. They're plenty beings capable of destroying it Goku's out of his league. Some how people think DBZ is far above Marvel and DC I just don't see it they're very weak in comparison.

when piccolo power level 200 he was able to destroy the moon with a week beam. piccolo power level is now over 80 mil.

So?

I hope tou don't think that beacuse he could destroy a moon with a PL of 200, it means he can destroy two moons with a pl of 400.

PLs don't have that exact an exponetial range. When your PL doubles, it does not mean your strenth exactly doubles.

Even IF you argued it does, it means nothing.

Odin can destroy (or create) a sun. the sun is 1,300,000 times biger then the earth. Vegeta, with a PL of 18,000, is the first person we know that had the power to destroy earth.

Unless you can prove that SSj4's PL was over 23 billion, you can't make a case for him being able to blow up the sun.

And Odin is capeable of MORE impressive feats then that.

^ word

Odin sux...

Your argument is truely beyond retort or great works of litrature. You sire, are truely this generation's hemmingway.

Thats what i've been trying to tell everyone...fuk yeah biches!

BTW SS4 Goku power level was 180,000,000 but still ain't shit against a sky-father who can blink you out of existences.

I thought it was hard enough comparing DC and Marvel whose power levels are different. How would Odins power level be in DBZ or Gokus in Marvel? That's the real question that will decide who'd win. Hmmmm I'll go with Odin for now.

Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
So?

I hope tou don't think that beacuse he could destroy a moon with a PL of 200, it means he can destroy two moons with a pl of 400.

PLs don't have that exact an exponetial range. When your PL doubles, it does not mean your strenth exactly doubles.

Even IF you argued it does, it means nothing.

Odin can destroy (or create) a sun. the sun is 1,300,000 times biger then the earth. Vegeta, with a PL of 18,000, is the first person we know that had the power to destroy earth.

Unless you can prove that SSj4's PL was over 23 billion, you can't make a case for him being able to blow up the sun.

And Odin is capeable of MORE impressive feats then that.

Goku at Frieza saga had 15 million, that is official, anything after Frieza saga is specatcualtion of power level. In Buu Saga Goku was 500 million. But it is thought that Goku had about 4 billion at the end of GT. And his final spirit bomb in DBGT it is thought it had more than 100 billion.