Originally posted by olympian
"Mindless couldn't hurt him.Hercules isn't doing much."
Without amping at all? That is what i meant with no use at all of powers.
He never battles with earth heroes(hard) anyways
Only time SS goes all out is with foes like Morg , Enslaver , Durok , Mep etc
He defeated Savage Hulk without trying much.
Mindless Hulk was founding Surfer, at the end of that SS was perfectly fine.
and we can safely say Herc isn't stonger than Mindless Hulk
And by the way SS doesn’t do hand to hand.
Originally posted by armandovallesIF SS If doesn't want him to touch him he won't
I THINK IF HERC IS HIS IMMORTAL VERSION THAT IF HE CAN SOMEHOW GET IN CLOSE THAT HE CAN KNOCK HIM OUT. BUT IF HE CANT GET IN CLOSE THEN HE HAS NO CHANCE.
Piggy showed a nice scans of Surfer looking everywhere on earth in no time.
SS has also speedblitz cosmic level that are beyond his level and K.O'ed them.
herc is just brute like Hulk not much problem.
"Only time SS goes all out is with foes like Morg , Enslaver , Durok , Mep etc"
Yeah when he uses the full extension of his powers.
"He defeated Savage Hulk without trying much."
Yes. But was it H2H?
"and we can safely say Herc isn't stonger than Mindless Hulk"
Depends on wich one, The Mindless Hulk that went against Iron Man, Namor, WMan wasent show to be stronger than Herc - at that point- they wer too evenly matched.
The one that went issues later against the two teams was definatly stronger. Not to a point where he dwarfed Herc but to a point where the Greek couldnt defeat him alone.
In all im just curious how Surfer is ranked h2h and in strenght without amping and without talking about durability. Is he a full "cl 100" ?
Thanks for reminding me he went against Thanos before that way, in my pov considering how effectivally he can amp i dont see Herc winning. Both powerwise and in a slugfest.
The only chance would be Herc at his best and Surfer not amping at all. Hes a better figther.
Of course that would mean either the Hulk, Thor and Glads could take him that way as well.
Surfer wins imo.