Can Jedi be considered super-heroes?

Started by Lana2 pages

No problem 🙂

Yes, thematically speaking over time the superhero has not actually been the voice of authority himself, he has been either welcome or covert help TO authorities. (And yes, series like 'The Authority' do the opposite, that that was actually specific point of inverting how superhero scripts normally run, not an extension of the mythos; likewise the Government-sponsored heroes in The Watchmen)

Jedi are part of the system- at one point they were going to be wearing UN-style uniforms.

Their thematic ancestry is actually tied into Arthurian Knights and Wild West Marshalls.

I won't call Jedi "superheroes". The "superhero mythology" features some ideas that don't fit to the Jedi:

a)
Superheroes have two identities in most cases. Their superhero identity and a "normal" one (Like Superman being Clark Kent, Batman being Bruce Wayne and so on). Jedi are just Jedi.

b)
Superheroes in most cases don't serve the system which they live in. They serve higher ideals like justice - and sometimes they even get in conflict with system authorities. Jedi serve the Republic - they are part of the system.

c)
Superheroes in most cases have powers that are based on supernatural events: their origin (Superman), genetic experiments (Spiderman), catastrophes (Fantastic Four) or mutations (X-Men). The Force is part of the normal nature and so the Jedi being force users are part of the nature of the SW universe - they aren't "supernatural" in terms of their own universe. For example Superman would not have been anything special on his own world.

So I personally won't call Jedi "superheroes".

Originally posted by Captain REX
Jedi do NOT have super strength. Do you see Obi-Wan picking up cars with his bare hands or throwing around buildings? No? The Force is not super strength, it's telekinetics and telepathy.

Jedi jump, completely different than airborne.

And that wasn't the point of the element comment: NO Jedi control elements.

Jedi Knights and superheroes are different things.

Do you see Batman picking up a car with his bare hands or throwing around buildings? No.

There are super heroes that only have telekinesis and telepathic abilities for example Jean Grey (Phoenix) and Xavier among many others.

And I said Jedi "can" become airborne for a "bit" I didn't say they become completely airborne

A Jedi Jump = being airborne for a "bit" = being in the air longer than naturally possible, meaning.

There may be a difference between the 2, but what your saying doesn't clarify anything.

You said that Jedi had super strength, which I was disproving. Pay attention to your own argument. And the Jean Grey/Xavier kind of telepathy/telekinesis is absurdly overpowered compared to the Jedi.

And nice work ignoring the other arguments against your reasoning. Pure genius.

Originally posted by Captain REX
You said that Jedi had super strength, which I was disproving. Pay attention to your own argument. And the Jean Grey/Xavier kind of telepathy/telekinesis is absurdly overpowered compared to the Jedi.

And nice work ignoring the other arguments against your reasoning. Pure genius.

Pay attention to my own argument? lol? wtf are you talking about, super-strength?
I did say it, what are you talking about..I never said I didn't..I had my statement/opinion on it and so did someone else. What does that have to do with anything. Seems you need to pay more attention to your incomprehensions.

And Jean Gray/Xavier could have the kind of telepathic or telekinetic power God may have. It doesn't matter. Both Jedi and Superheroes can have telekinesis and telepathy is what I'm saying. On different degrees, yes, but they still can poses those power...genius 😂

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Pay attention to my own argument? lol? wtf are you talking about, super-strength?
I did say it, what are you talking about..I never said I didn't..I had my statement/opinion on it and so did someone else. What does that have to do with anything. Seems you need to pay more attention to your incomprehensions.

And Jean Gray/Xavier could have the kind of telepathic or telekinetic power God may have. It doesn't matter. Both Jedi and Superheroes can have telekinesis and telepathy is what I'm saying. On different degrees, yes, but they still can poses those power...genius 😂

I'd call you a dick, but the LOL smile you put says it anyway.

I'll agree with Tangible. You have NO comprehension of ANYTHING, for Chrissakes...

Originally posted by Tangible God
I'd call you a dick, but the LOL smile you put says it anyway.

Ah, the wonders of the Internet a.k.a instant courage.
Now Tangible was that necessary. Your're defending him in the same way I'd defend a hottie. I'm I missing something here or are you guys just Anakin and Padme happy? meh. who knows. who cares.

I now know that this will turn into a flaming war causing either myself or you too lovebirds the boot. I'm for it. I don't normally stoop to ally-cat ways, normally, but if you strike me down, i will become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.

You'd call me a dick. But i'm saying you're one, Tangy..you and your bf. Let the games begin..

😮‍💨

On the Clone Wars D.V.D one guy on the extra features says Jedi are like super heroes, so.... I say they could be considered superheros, only, more organized and law abiding (until the law is "evil"😉.

Law-abiding? They ARE the law.

Fist, **** off. I highly doubt that I will be banned, seeing as I am a damned moderator, you stupid boy. You, however, have already been banned, and next time is forever. You are showing just how stupid and ignorant you are, so either continue with your stupidity or grow up.

And you STILL haven't responded to the parts of the argument that prove you wrong, just mine, which your answers to were weak, and completely muddled, because you said that Jedi had super strength and gave an example of strength in the Force, to which I said you were mistaken, and you gave some crap answer that had nothing to do with anything.

And the use of the "If you strike me down..." line is entirely cliche. 😮‍💨

Oh, FotN, you just ****ed up 😄

Originally posted by Captain REX
Law-abiding? They ARE the law.

Fist, **** off. I highly doubt that I will be banned, seeing as I am a damned moderator, you stupid boy. You, however, have already been banned, and next time is forever. You are showing just how stupid and ignorant you are, so either continue with your stupidity or grow up.

And you STILL haven't responded to the parts of the argument that prove you wrong, just mine, which your answers to were weak, and completely muddled, because you said that Jedi had super strength and gave an example of strength in the Force, to which I said you were mistaken, and you gave some crap answer that had nothing to do with anything.

And the use of the "If you strike me down..." line is entirely cliche. 😮‍💨

rotflmfao!

Wow, just wow..

I can smell mental incompetence a light-year away. You're not worth the energy my fingers will use to type back to your like.

I have much to type but I'll save it for intellectuals. Not for people who say "you stupid dummy"

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I'm just going to sit here and laugh at Fist. Bye-bye, Fist...

Originally posted by General Zink
I'm just going to sit here and laugh at Fist. Bye-bye, Fist...

Byee 💃

Tangible, don't just throw out insults like that, it;s not helpfuil. I'll have to warn you again if you do so.

FOTN, you are definitely on a final warning. Act remotely like that again and you'll be out of here forever.

Thread ruined by immature behaviour, so closed.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
rotflmfao!

Wow, just wow..

I can smell mental incompetence a light-year away.

I didn't know people could generally recognize their own stench.

3 day ban for mental incompetence boy.