Originally posted by Xplosive
And what has Magneto done?
I used to think it was hilarious how in old school comics that an evil scientist would do multi billion dollar feat like... build a giant robot battle suit and a weather device, darken the sky to stop solar radiation from hitting and empowering Superman and battling against him in the armor.... to rob a bank, which probably had no more than 10000 dollars in it.
Originally posted by K3VIL
Mmm, punked the Avengers, the X-Men, turned off all of Earth machinery and meanwhile contained two nuclear bombs cause the Earth governments arsenals were all disabled except for some nuclear weapons.
Also Magneto ruled Genosha, became respected, and obtained a nation after years of battle.
Apoc is somewhere into a base or a ship planning about his next defeat.
He should focus on targets in his league, like a wal mart or a McDonald.
Apocalypse fought cosmic beigns, handling them. He defeated X-Men in less than 60 seconds. X-Men + Inhuamns and famous BB scream, nothing to him. Was called by Kang the Conquer the most powerful mutant and he eventually rule the planet in almost every timeline. God-Like Cable saw Apocalypse is alive because of again, terrible future. Magneto rulling Genosha, hm. Earth will ultimately be hand of Apocalypse. Uatu the Wathcer recognized Apocalypse power, a being of aweinspiring power. Onslaught was impressed what Apocalypse has done to alternate Earth. He easily stopped HULK and making him war Hulk, and then proving his might is beyond Juggernaut.
The problem with Apocalypse is the way he is written and used in the comics. If you look at his powers and abilities he has the potential to be almost a cosmic level character. The problem is that he is stuck being an X-man villian. Looking at his history, he could have taken over the world at any time he wanted to. Like many villians he is overpowered but underwritten. They should give him a planet (as they will never really give him Earth), a human/mutant population to work with, and let him finally live up to his potential. I could see him being like a Marvel Darkseid. Which would be far more interesting than being killed off by having his "soul" stabbed by a freakin' spear. Cheap, very cheap.
also he still gets owned by Galactus
Originally posted by Xplosive
Hey, he did so, in HoM. You can talk whatever you want, I have the pleasure, their fight happened recently, he beat him, I have the pleasure and you are jelaous cause Apocalypse beat him easily. I bet if Namor would defeat him in HoM (which would be impossible anyway), you would be saying, look what fish did to Apocalypse, but like I said, Namor beating Apocalypse is imposible. But you can say, why he didnt do it before, who cares, he did it now, and not long ago and he did it easily. 😉
In HoM they fought, and Apoc won. However, since YOU were the one that earlier said HoM doesn't matter, ok, it doesn't matter. in the 616 Universe, they fought and Namor beat Apocalypse. So.....what do you have to say about that eh?
~wickerman~
Originally posted by Xplosive
Hey, he did so, in HoM. You can talk whatever you want, I have the pleasure, their fight happened recently, he beat him, I have the pleasure and you are jelaous cause Apocalypse beat him easily. I bet if Namor would defeat him in HoM (which would be impossible anyway), you would be saying, look what fish did to Apocalypse, but like I said, Namor beating Apocalypse is imposible. But you can say, why he didnt do it before, who cares, he did it now, and not long ago and he did it easily. 😉
Yeah. Except HoM Namor is not normal Namor. How many times I have to state it?
In NORMAL 616, Apocalypse fears Namor so bad that he runs away unless Namor is restrained or something.
In HoM, Apocalypse is more powerful then Namor.
Originally posted by Wickerman
In HoM they fought, and Apoc won. However, since YOU were the one that earlier said HoM doesn't matter, ok, it doesn't matter. in the 616 Universe, they fought and Namor beat Apocalypse. So.....what do you have to say about that eh?~wickerman~
Nmaor didnt beat Apocalypse, no beat anyone in that fight.
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
In NORMAL 616, Apocalypse fears Namor so bad that he runs away unless Namor is restrained or something.
Hahahhahahaha
Originally posted by XplosiveHahahhahahaha
Umm...are you blind or something? I have the proof right here:
http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/4195/namorfeat606bm.gif
http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/8092/namorfeat616co.gif
http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/1170/namorfeat625ld.gif
http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/3417/namorfeat630uo.gif
http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/2343/namorfeat642by.gif
Hahhahaaa...
as a side note - that entire storyline makes no sense.
1. Apocalypse was supposed to be in his rejuvenation chamber at the time, since it was before X-cutioner's song but after his destruction in X-factor.
2. He planned for "years" to develop a drug to weaken Namor, but didn't realize what's common knowledge TO THE ENTIRE PLANET - Namor is a mutant with different biological properties (the fact that Namor isn't blue like the rest of the Atlanteans should have been a cue).
3. If years of planning were about to go to waste, and he's so mighty, he would have just grabbed Namor and subdued him himself. What, you think Thanos would have just split? In fact, if he's so mighty, why the need to spend YEARS working on a way to drug Namor in the first place?
4. Years of planning and all kinds of celestial technology and he can't build something to contain a CL100 character?
5. Why is he on the ocean floor, in Namor's native element???
6. Why would he say, "one day, you will be mine!!!", then five seconds later order his servant to kill him?
7. Why is he so pressed to leave because of a little water? Oh, because of the tons of pressure that would crush him? So then....
8. ....how is transforming into a submarine at the end of the issue to escape possible (not shown in these scans)? It's still his body If he could have transformed his body into a form able to survive in the deep ocean, why was he in such a rush to escape?
By the way, in HoM, it's both the same Namor and the same Apoc. It's been made clear that it's not an alternate reality - it's 616, and it's clear that the only thing different about these characters is their memories.
Also, Apoc didn't beat Namor. Namor knocked Apoc into the ocean, then Apoc knocked Namor out of the ocean. It was a shot for shot tie. Namor was put on ice by Iceman while in the air.
Both fights mean nothing more than showing that they're on comparable levels. And that's an assessment I can agree with. Apoc is NOT a skyfather, and should be solidly competitive against low end herald characters like Namor and Hulk. Nothing more, as his performance against Black Bolt should prove.
Originally posted by Wickerman
Running away from someone doesn't mean you've been beaten by that someone? Being afraid of a TABLE doesn't mean anything? FFS man.......get a grip......~wickerman~
Look ****er, he wasnt beaten, fact. Apocalypse delivered a last punch, Namor was bleeding, Apocalypse was nothing hurt. Apocalypse did more damage to him. 😱
Originally posted by Xplosive
Look ****er, he wasnt beaten, fact. Apocalypse delivered a last punch, Namor was bleeding, Apocalypse was nothing hurt. Apocalypse did more damage to him. 😱
Apocalypses bodyguard made Namor bleed, not Apocalypse.
Apocalypse didn't even dare to face Namor without having him drugged. 😂
Originally posted by Xplosive
It did also prove once to withstand BB scream. Apocalypse did beat Namor in HoM. Apocalypse is more powerful than Namor.
BB was obviously holding back his scream, because there was no damage to anything around him. Compare that to his scream in that BP issue. So can Apoc withstand BB's smallest scream? Guess so. But when BB doesn't have to worry about bringing the building down on his head and killing his friends and family, Apoc went down fast and hard.
Originally posted by Xplosive
It looked far more screamful than when he knocked out with whisper Gladiator or Hulk. Cyclops: we shot at everything we got, including BB, it was pretty obvious he was screaming.
He also whispered right in their ears. He whispered at a giant Apoc, and had to be careful not to cause any other damage. Can't you see the difference between his HoM scream, that destroyed EVERYTHING in sight, and his X-factor scream, which created this little energy spiral that hit Apoc in the shoulder. HUGE difference.
Originally posted by demigawd
He also whispered right in their ears. He whispered at a giant Apoc, and had to be careful not to cause any other damage. Can't you see the difference between his HoM scream, that destroyed EVERYTHING in sight, and his X-factor scream, which created this little energy spiral that hit Apoc in the shoulder. HUGE difference.
If Apoclaypse knew, he could prepeare, rise to enormous size. He could withstand his blast. Apocalpuse that was in X-Factor 68, he would make a joke out of Namor.
Originally posted by Xplosive
If Apoclaypse knew, he could prepeare, rise to enormous size. He could withstand his blast. Apocalpuse that was in X-Factor 68, he would make a joke out of Namor.
Your much-feared X-factor 68 Apoc still got beaten. As much as you like to point out that BB didn't hurt him...Apoc didn't do squat to BB, or anybody else he fought, either. Nobody hurt anybody....
