Anger

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Apperantly, Bradock has trouble understanding that control is very complex and there are many forms of it.

Emotional control cannot be the same as economic control, which is not the same as the physical control - thats pretty obvious.

Apparently, lil bitchiness has trouble understanding that no actual definition inf the world will make her statement any more true....

I never claimed it is..but just because someone has the ability to anger you doesn't mean that they can control you....except in a very strange definition of the word control where it means "Someone can anger you" ......

If you are angry at someone else.....think?????...how many mins. a day do you think of that situation or person Burdock42?......Now, you are not in control, but they are....they are in control of your thoughts.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Apparently, lil bitchiness has trouble understanding that no actual definition inf the world will make her statement any more true....

I never claimed it is..but just because someone has the ability to anger you doesn't mean that they can control you....except in a very strange definition of the word control where it means "Someone can anger you" ......

And thats exactly the point they are making....."someone can anger you" then they decide how you will react, respond and function around them.....its a control mechanism

Originally posted by debbiejo
If you are angry at someone else.....think?????...how many mins. a day do you think of that situation or person Burdock42?......Now, you are not in control, but they are....they are in control of your thoughts.

Originally posted by soleran30
And thats exactly the point they are making....."someone can anger you" then they decide how you will react, respond and function around them.....its a control mechanism

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Which is exatly what the quote was saying.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Apparently, lil bitchiness has trouble understanding that no actual definition inf the world will make her statement any more true....

I never claimed it is..but just because someone has the ability to anger you doesn't mean that they can control you....except in a very strange definition of the word control where it means "Someone can anger you" ......

Its sad that you cannot open your mind to the timeless saying because you are too closed minded to admit you rudely replied to my post on the bases that you faild to understand it.

Originally posted by debbiejo
If you are angry at someone else.....think?????...how many mins. a day do you think of that situation or person Burdock42?......Now, you are not in control, but they are....they are in control of your thoughts.

Originally posted by soleran30
And thats exactly the point they are making....."someone can anger you" then they decide how you will react, respond and function around them.....its a control mechanism

I will say it to you too...The person can not decide how I react...I only react one way..I get angry......Control would mean that they at least can decide between two (actual control even more) possibilities...

It's like the one king in the "Little Prince" ...I can tell the Sun to rise at approximately 8 am in the morning...does that mean I control the sun? ..No....to control it I actually need to have power over the person. What you, debbiejo and Lil_b are saying that anyone who can create an emotion in you can control you....nothing more.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
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Which is exatly what the quote was saying.

Its sad that you cannot open your mind to the timeless saying because you are too closed minded to admit you rudely replied to my post on the bases that you faild to understand it.

No it's not...it's what you people interpret in it. oOh and that's still wrong.

I did not respond rude...I just pointed out the pointlessness and the stupidity of that saying......and I am not close minded, although you like to throw that around....

by the way how did you come to the Conclusion I was close-minded?

OK...maybe you're saying there is just anger and for some there is suppressed anger that carries.....Many people have anger that carried like in the opening post suggested....just want to clarify....Suppressed anger only harms yourself in the long run....

Originally posted by Bardock42

I will say it to you too...The person can not decide how I react...I only react one way..I get angry......Control would mean that they at least can decide between two (actual control even more) possibilities...

Conversation like this are just painful.......do you major in double talk at school? If someone can choose to make you angery they do control two different pieces.......to not make you angry or to make you angry thats 2 different possibilities........thats control.......

Originally posted by debbiejo
OK...maybe you're saying there is just anger and for some there is suppressed anger that carries.....Many people have anger that carried like in the opening post suggested....just want to clarify....Suppressed anger only harms yourself in the long run....

Nothing to do witht he arguement at the moment. 🤨

Originally posted by soleran30
Conversation like this are just painful.......do you major in double talk at school? If someone can choose to make you angery they do control two different pieces.......to not make you angry or to make you angry thats 2 different possibilities........thats control.......

Yes I do...I suck at it...I always state the truth.....

Anyways..now that#S a stretch, you are saying that the person that angers me has the ability not to anger me.....that's in no way implied...and not even very likely....

Originally posted by Bardock42
Nothing to do witht he arguement at the moment. 🤨

Yes I do...I suck at it...I always state the truth.....

Anyways..now that#S a stretch, you are saying that the person that angers me has the ability not to anger me.....that's in no way implied...and not even very likely....

WTF do you like to read your text.......because whats with this imply stuff........its not an imply its a truth people can make you angry or choose not to make you angry.......2 choices and plenty of control.....

Originally posted by soleran30
WTF do you like to read your text.......because whats with this imply stuff........its not an imply its a truth people can make you angry or choose not to make you angry.......2 choices and plenty of control.....

That is correct....You can let people get to you, or chose not to....again...people need to take responsibility for themselves....not to blame someone else that has the problem on making you angry...they are the ones with the problem...don't make it yours also.....that only feeds the fuel....Be true to who you are yourself...don't let others cross your boundary and drag you in..that is what hell is.

Originally posted by soleran30
WTF do you like to read your text.......because whats with this imply stuff........its not an imply its a truth people can make you angry or choose not to make you angry.......2 choices and plenty of control.....

What the hell...how can a person chose to make you angry or not? I guess some can...but even then the definition of control is wrong.

Again what your interpretations are saying is either.

"The one who can make you angry, can make you angry"

or

"The one that can amke you enter any emotional state, has that far control over you that they can make you enter any emotional state"

or

"The one that has emotional control over you, has emotional control over you"

but your interpretations are clearly not included in

"The one that angers (how? Passive or Active? What amount of anger? Can they chose to do so?) you, controls (How? Fully or Partly? Emotional, Physical....) you"

Originally posted by debbiejo
That is correct....You can let people get to you, or chose not to....again...people need to take responsibility for themselves....not to blame someone else that has the problem on making you angry...they are the ones with the problem...don't make it yours also.....that only feeds the fuel....Be true to who you are yourself...don't let others cross your boundry and drag you in..that is what hell is.

We are not arguein if the angry person can decide to get angry or not, but if the Person that makes one angry can decide to make you angry or not

Originally posted by Bardock42
Wrong side again Debbie.

We are not arguein if the angry person can decide to get angry or not, but if the Person that makes one angry can decide to make you angry or not

OK....I think..😕

Originally posted by Bardock42
What the hell...how can a person chose to make you angry or not? I guess some can...but even then the definition of control is wrong.

Again what your interpretations are saying is either.

"The one who can make you angry, can make you angry"

or

"The one that can amke you enter any emotional state, has that far control over you that they can make you enter any emotional state"

or

"The one that has emotional control over you, has emotional control over you"

but your interpretations are clearly not included in

"The one that angers (how? Passive or Active? What amount of anger? Can they chose to do so?) you, controls (How? Fully or Partly? Emotional, Physical....) you"

Often control is directing influence. Taken from wikipedia not my implyed meaning but what it really is........

As long as everybody's angry here, then I think the thread did it's job.

The one thing I know about anger is that it needs something to feeds off of....It can easily be defused......And there are reasons for proper anger.....many, many many......but it has to have its proper place....

Originally posted by soleran30
WTF do you like to read your text.......because whats with this imply stuff........its not an imply its a truth people can make you angry or choose not to make you angry.......2 choices and plenty of control.....

Only you can make yourself angry. You are the person who is in charge of how you feel. You can choose to not get angry. When people think that others are doing things to them, they give up their power over their own lives. Even if someone was beating on you, you are still the person who makes the choice to get angry. Now, getting angry maybe the right thing to do, like defending an other person or yourself, but it is still a choice you make. 😄

Originally posted by botankus
As long as everybody's angry here, then I think the thread did it's job.

Awwww....you're not angry....you have a cow now instead of a weird bear......OH...my.....not a type A personality....

Originally posted by debbiejo
OK....I think..😕

yeah well..just a different thing.

Originally posted by soleran30
Often control is directing influence. Taken from wikipedia not my implyed meaning but what it really is........

Yes, but would you actually call someone that can slightly influence one of your emotions (and to what extend, and does that Saying actually say that?), controling you?