Originally posted by Clovie
dunno.
but you see if it is dark or light. so you can say if it is dark or light
and I have always problems with expressing the exact shade of colour i'm seeing 🙁 and when there are more names it's easier.
Yes but what I'm saying is, if it's light pink why is light pink? How do you know it's not normal pink and every other pink is just brighter/darker?
-AC
Originally posted by Clovie
you can't define normal exactly
but when it is light it is light. 😕 I can't explain it. you just see it.
Yes, exactly. You can't define normal, because there isn't one. Or is there?
My point was, how do you label a colour light or dark variant when you don't even know what normal is?
Eg: We can say things are above and below sea level because we know what sea level is. How can you say a colour is lightER or darkER when you don't even know what the normal base is?
-AC
Originally posted by Clovie
gonna be literal now, I'm afraid.but.
I don't say it is lighter. I'm saying it's light and it is light when it is not dark
when you have the two of them, you can decide easily which one is dark and which one is light, right?
and the one in the middle is the 'just' pink.
something like that 😕
You're always literal.
I was saying, how do you say something is lightER or darkER? How? To do that you must have an idea of the original colour. How do you know what the original colour is?
If you say there's light pink and a dark pink, there must be a normal pink. Same with any colour. So how do you find the normal? How do you decide? Because I'm sure it's different for everyone.
-AC
It's only unprovable if you reduce reality down to a matter that nothing is certain, which is never a helpful position
Fact is, science tells us that humans see all the same colours (shades not withstanding; don't want to get into that). Doubt that and you may as well doubt all that science has achieved; philosophical scepticism is the nursery school of thought- page 1 is Descartes; move on, folks.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauriso you got already used to it?
You're always literal.I was saying, how do you say something is lightER or darkER? How? To do that you must have an idea of the original colour. How do you know what the original colour is?
If you say there's light pink and a dark pink, there must be a normal pink. Same with any colour. So how do you find the normal? How do you decide? Because I'm sure it's different for everyone.
-AC
so I have the idea of the original colour... and generaly everyone seems to have some similar one, coz when I'm asking a friend to pass me the light pink crayon (we're making drawings during classes baby) she is giving me the light pink one and not a blue one, or a normal pink one and neither the dark pink one
and I don't understand where is the problem. so you can assume I'm totally stupid etc.
Originally posted by Clovie
so you got already used to it?so I have the idea of the original colour... and generaly everyone seems to have some similar one, coz when I'm asking a friend to pass me the light pink crayon (we're making drawings during classes baby) she is giving me the light pink one and not a blue one, or a normal pink one and neither the dark pink one
and I don't understand where is the problem. so you can assume I'm totally stupid etc.
Luckily I only read the last post...so this was probably said before....
The Light Pink one might in your friends mind look like the Dark Blue one you imagine but because that "Dark Blue" was called "Light Pink" ...she'll give you the right colour.....
But I think you could maybe say that there is something that is always considered light and something that'S always considered dark...how that actually looks is not knowable....
Like I say, deny that and you are only in a field where you must always doubt anything you cannot implicity prove- i.e. that you exist, which is the only thing. It's brains in jars, and if you want that you should be heading off to Philosophy.
No-one can prove a negative. But there isn't a single reason to think that it is possibly true- so why consider it?
Originally posted by Bardock42🤨
Luckily I only read the last post...so this was probably said before....The Light Pink one might in your friends mind look like the Dark Blue one you imagine but because that "Dark Blue" was called "Light Pink" ...she'll give you the right colour.....
But I think you could maybe say that there is something that is always considered light and something that'S always considered dark...how that actually looks is not knowable....
I know it hurts you to read my posts..but if you wanna reply to them it would be better to at least know the general idea 😕
Originally posted by Clovie
🤨I know it hurts you to read my posts..but if you wanna reply to them it would be better to at least know the general idea 😕
Wha`? ...I read yours....I didn't read any others though....I just gave my <opinion and then agreed with you partly, since we obviously all have siimilar notions of light and dark....
Originally posted by Bardock42and it has nothing to do with the fact that AC was trying to tell me that there is no normal pink? 😕
Wha`? ...I read yours....I didn't read any others though....I just gave my <opinion and then agreed with you partly, since we obviously all have siimilar notions of light and dark....
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Like I say, deny that and you are only in a field where you must always doubt anything you cannot implicity prove- i.e. that you exist, which is the only thing. It's brains in jars, and if you want that you should be heading off to Philosophy.No-one can prove a negative. But there isn't a single reason to think that it is possibly true- so why consider it?
Why not? Reason enough to think it might be true is the fact that it can't actually be proven wrong. I enjoy discussing it, not saying I believe it.
Clovie:
I'm not gonna continually say what I've said multiple times, only to have you miss it again, sorry.
-AC