Originally posted by wolverine8888
thing is a amzaing fighter. he wrestiler, boxer street fighter, military training. just ebcuase he does not know kung fu or some form of korate does not mean he does not deserve to be a level 5 fighter he is a master boxer and wrestler.
also captain america is pritty much a master of all forms of combat.
Prove that Thing is a Master boxer or werestler. He is a Master of no form of combat. Neither is Captain America a master of ALL forms. Many but not all.
In the same picture he still gets stunned by a mental blast though. Anyway I haven't heard a counter for the Polarisweddingesque KO technique for DD and Torch - if she can do it to 50 or so people I'm willing to bet he can do it to two. So I figure it ends up a 3 on 1 tag team on GL (with Wolverine serving as little more than a distraction) in which case I'd favour Mags team.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
In the same picture he still gets stunned by a mental blast though. Anyway I haven't heard a counter for the Polarisweddingesque KO technique for DD and Torch - if she can do it to 50 or so people I'm willing to bet he can do it to two. So I figure it ends up a 3 on 1 tag team on GL (with Wolverine serving as little more than a distraction) in which case I'd favour Mags team.
You have to also remember X, that GL is still at the satelite for one. Also, Superman was double teamed. Mags and Electro wouldnt have the time to do it to Torch or DD cause one would be too busy with GL.
jrod all u listed did not prove any thing u did not site any of what u stated. dare devil did in deed beat punisher in combat he also more agile and has better reflexes then punisher and is also abetter hand 2thand fighter. when did dare devil ever run at punisher and dodge inbetween the bullets? actauly when has DD ever ran and dodge bullets not jumping away but actauly dodged the bullet. wolverine beat namor( invanders with enemy of the state tie in).
DD has also gotten his ass kicked by spiderman befor. wow DD dodged one of spidermans attacks big whoop wolverines done that many many times(wolverine vs spiderman 1 and 2. u have to come to terms with the fact that DD is peak human agility at best and wolverine is plain superhuman. also it be nice if u could use prove and not just plain state things.
Originally posted by wolverine8888
jrod all u listed did not prove any thing u did not site any of what u stated. dare devil did in deed beat punisher in combat he also more agile and has better reflexes then punisher and is also abetter hand 2thand fighter. when did dare devil ever run at punisher and dodge inbetween the bullets? actauly when has DD ever ran and dodge bullets not jumping away but actauly dodged the bullet. wolverine beat namor( invanders with enemy of the state tie in).
DD has also gotten his ass kicked by spiderman befor. wow DD dodged one of spidermans attacks big whoop wolverines done that many many times(wolverine vs spiderman 1 and 2. u have to come to terms with the fact that DD is peak human agility at best and wolverine is plain superhuman. also it be nice if u could use prove and not just plain state things.
What? youre saying that DD is a better h2h fightet than Punisher? Yet Punisher is rated a 6 by Marvel. DD Dodged multiple Spiderman attacks also. You have yet to prove anything.
Prove that Thing is a Master boxer or werestler. He is a Master of no form of combat. Neither is Captain America a master of ALL forms. Many but not all.
it has been stated hting boxing and wrestling skills befor but im not a big fan of thing so I do no own any of which they state this.
captain is a master of all known forms of combat. which means he knows all the diffrent forms example samuri has many diffrent types so if he knows just one that means he know that form of combat. so it realy is not that surprizing because all he needs to be is a master at one type of kungfu and such and then he a mster at kung fu even thou there are many diffrent types of kung fu he just needs to be a master in one to be considered a master of kung fu.
Polaris KOed a large number of people in a second or two while pulling up huge spikes of earth and creating general chaos. Considering Magneto has more power and more control, I don't think it's unfair to say he can KO 2 people in a fraction of a fraction of that - so I tend to think he would have the time. So I still envision this ending up a 3 on 1.
If GL mind controls Wolverine Mags would just ball him up and throw him away. 😂
This is just turning into Magneto vs GL.
What? youre saying that DD is a better h2h fightet than Punisher? Yet Punisher is rated a 6 by Marvel. DD Dodged multiple Spiderman attacks also. You have yet to prove anything.
u need to elarn to listen weapons and such are considered part of fightign skill. punisher is a master of almsot every type of gun and is trianed in many types of fighting so it not surprized that thou hand to hand he is not as skilled he is in fact higher on skill level. u still ahve eyt to prove that DD has in fact dodged spidermna u have yet to show any comic evidence. also I already know DD once did dodge spiderman and beat him but he has also lost terrably befor. u have yet to show proof that DD has in fact actauly dodged a bullet and not just jump away from it.
Originally posted by wolverine8888
it has been stated hting boxing and wrestling skills befor but im not a big fan of thing so I do no own any of which they state this.
Because its not a fact and it doesnt exsist. Its something else you made up.
Originally posted by wolverine8888
captain is a master of all known forms of combat.
No he isnt. Master of some or many. Not all.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Polaris KOed a large number of people in a second or two while pulling up huge spikes of earth and creating general chaos. Considering Magneto has more power and more control, I don't think it's unfair to say he can KO 2 people in a fraction of a fraction of that - so I tend to think he would have the time. So I still envision this ending up a 3 on 1.If GL mind controls Wolverine Mags would just ball him up and throw him away. 😂
This is just turning into Magneto vs GL.
Yea my friend has thaqt comic. I did read through it. It did take Polaris a few to pull it off. Also i dont think anyone was there to block it. But youre right. Mags is more powerful than her.
It still doesnt matter cause GL turns everyone to roses.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Because its not a fact and it doesnt exsist. Its something else you made up.No he isnt. Master of some or many. Not all.
I have never made up a thing I always use evidence. ask wynndar if u like he probly owns the comics were it states thing wrestler and boxing abilites. also he has military training as well.
captain is not a master of many forms of combat? ur joking right the whole piont of captain is he is supose to know pritty much every single fighting style on the planet. also stop trying to get around the facts. im still waiting for u to show comic evidence of dare devil actauly dodging a bullets and not just jumping away, hell im looking for any evidence from u. u have yet to show a single bit of evidence.
Originally posted by wolverine8888
u need to elarn to listen weapons and such are considered part of fightign skill.
100% Wrong. Weapons are not part of fighting skill. If you use a weapon its not fighting skills. Pull the trigger. Where do you get your information from? Seriously.
Originally posted by wolverine8888
punisher is a master of almsot every type of gun and is trianed in many types of fighting so it not surprized that thou hand to hand he is not as skilled he is in fact higher on skill level.
True but because hes is trained in armed and unarmed combat, it doesnt raise his rank in fighting skills. If so, Bishop and Nick Fury would be higher.
Originally posted by wolverine8888
u still ahve eyt to prove that DD has in fact dodged spidermna u have yet to show any comic evidence.
Thas coming.
Originally posted by wolverine8888
also I already know DD once did dodge spiderman and beat him but he has also lost terrably befor.
Do you plan on proving that? Or are you still just talking? People have mentioned it before saying it was brief, but noone has shown it.
Originally posted by wolverine8888
u have yet to show proof that DD has in fact actauly dodged a bullet and not just jump away from it.
Thats coming also.
Originally posted by wolverine8888
captain is not a msater of many forms of combat? ur joking right the whole piont of captain is he is supose to know pritty much every single fighting style on the planet.also stop trying to get around the facts. im still waiting for u to show comic evidence of dare devil actauly dodging a bullets and not just jumping away, hell im looking for any evidence from u. u have yet to show a single bit of evidence.
Obviously you cant read. Re-read my post. I said Master of some or many. NOT ALL.
100% Wrong. Weapons are not part of fighting skill. If you use a weapon its not fighting skills. Pull the trigger. Where do you get your information from? Serious
actauly ur wrong. fighting skill on the stats even states it for arm and un armed combat. so ur wrong.
yup still waitng on u to show any prove lalalalala. I also love how u like to ignor and say all the comic and diffrent new hand books that state stats are in correct. also u have yet to prove captian is indeed not a master of every form of combat. I miss the old listings when they were out of 10 so much more accurate
yup like i said show me one when he not jumping away. thats not dodging them him jumping out of the way. there a huge diffrence in that and running straight at the person firing at u and dodging the bullets well staing pritty much on the same course, those are feats of reflex and agility that wolverine have done what u show is more or less acrobatic feats not agility or reflex.
Originally posted by wolverine8888
actauly ur wrong. fighting skill on the stats even states it for arm and un armed combat. so ur wrong.
No it doesnt.
Captain America - Excellent Hand to hand fighter. (No armed combat included and doesnt say anythig about knowing all forms of combat) Tell me anywhere its satated that Captain America knows all forms of combat BESIDES A MARVEL STAT.
Wolverine - Doesnt even say anything about his hand to hand combat, via Marvel.com or MArvel Encyclopedia.
Punisher - Superior martial artist and hand to hand combatant. Expert with small arms and large caliber guns.
Nick Fury - Expert unarmed and armed combatant. He should be a 7 right there.
Electra - Master Martail artist.
Originally posted by wolverine8888
also u have yet to prove captian is indeed not a master of every form of combat. I miss the old listings when they were out of 10 so much more accurate
Prove Captain America is a master at all forms of combat. Please prove something. Prove Wolverine is more agile than Daredevil. Prove Wolverine is faster than Daredevil. Prove Wolverine is a better fighter than Daredevil. Prove Wolverine has better reflexses than Daredevil. Prove something besides reffering to bios and stats.
