Vegito vs. Gogeta

Started by HigH ScholaR7 pages

Tien would slap up Krillen

Tien>Krillen (all through DB)
Tien>Krillen (all through DBZ)

Tien is also prpbably the best fighter in terms of martial art skills and has top notch life energy.

anyway how the Hell is krillen stronger.

but even though it was a filler why have Tien beat down two of the ginyu force at half power if he wasn't able to. I say half power as i remember he was divided into two.

Originally posted by Creshosk
That's the Japanese word.

OO- meaning Big or large and zaru eing an altered for conjigation saru which means monkey.

That's right. When I said translation, what I really meant to say was the English romanji of the Japanese word.

But yes, you're correct.

Originally posted by HigH ScholaR
Tien would slap up Krillen

Tien>Krillen (all through DB)
Tien>Krillen (all through DBZ)

Tien is also prpbably the best fighter in terms of martial art skills and has top notch life energy.

anyway how the Hell is krillen stronger.

but even though it was a filler why have Tien beat down two of the ginyu force at half power if he wasn't able to. I say half power as i remember he was divided into two.

I thought those sent to HFIL (Home For Infinite Losers) were serverely depowered upon entering? I mean, otherwise those two morons guarding the area couldn't do a thing to stop them from escaping. And yet, they don't escape.

omg dragonball z is gay

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I thought those sent to HFIL (Home For Infinite Losers) were serverely depowered upon entering? I mean, otherwise those two morons guarding the area couldn't do a thing to stop them from escaping. And yet, they don't escape.

That makes sense, but what are you basing this off of?

cheers!

I always thought it was a bit odd that krillin was the 'strongest human on earth'. Even though he could never touch cell..... and yet tien threw the ultimate life-form about for at least 20-25 minutes .

Thourgh i can't stand DBZ anymore, i was a fanboy once, and Tien is definately stronger than Krillin. Anytime...

Vegito is the top rank a Sayan warrior can achieve.
The union of Goku and Vegeta via potara earrings make them hella powerful.
Damn he beat the crap outta Majin-Bu which was powered up from the new super Gohan, Piccolo and SSJ3 Gotenks.
Potara fusion hasn't got time limits, it's eternal.
Vegito or Vegeth, isn't controlled from Vegeta, just like Gogeta isn't controlled from Goku.
The fusions have got characterial features from both the beings which become one.
Gogeta likes to joke but can be nasty and bastard if he wants, against that demon monster in the OAV, he cut lose with him, cause he knew he was a big menace, and disintegrated it with a single blast.
Vegeth instead of joking and making the enemy angry with funny lines or acting in a child like manner, preferes to toy with him, show his powers, show why he's THE BEST, and with that arrogant way of act he make the enemy feeling inferior and pathetic.
Vegeth got more of Vegeta's character but was moderated from Goku's good heart and smart mind, which make it the perfect fusion.

Now about the fighting skills:

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Are you serious?

Their first meeting, Goku was dominating until Vegeta went Oozaru (I believe that's the Japanese translation for it), or Were-Ape thing.

I think that pretty much means Goku was kicking the crap out of him.

And wait, what's this? Goku can achieve Super Saiyan 3 and Vegeta can't?

That doesn't matter though. Goku is just a better fighter.

Hell, Gohan is a better fighter than Vegeta.

I'm not taking anything away from Vegeta, just that these two are even better.


1st Goku VS Vegeta fight.
Goku came back on earth with new techniques and his physical attributes enhanced, same for his hand to hand fighting skills.
Goku used Kaioken and Genkidama/Spirit Bomb on Vegeta, and still wasn't enough.At the begin of the fight, when the leap from the high rocks and begin that "sparring" sequence, Goku claimed that Vegeta's tecnique was superior to his own even after special training.Goku used kaioken cause he was gonna suck the floor in normal mode.
Kaioken base level was enough to speedblitz Vegeta hit and him and make him angry, Kaioken 2nd level was enough to dodge Vegeta's blasts and attacks and speedblitz him without he could even react, after he activated Kaioken 2nd level, Vegeta missed him, then tried another energy blast, and Goku appeared in front him him smashing his face with a stomp kick without the sayan prince could even block it.Still Vegeta got up and was gonna destroy the planet, Goku used triple Kaioken to enhance kame ha me ha and send back the Garrick Cannon this lead Vegeta to change into Ozaru, but Goku was also very tired

from using Kaioken, the side effects were damaging his own body, and even without changing into Ozaru, Vegeta could have beat him considering he wasn't injured as the earth lover sayan, he just wanted to cut lose.That's Vegeta's achille's heel, when he starts to lose or is outmatched he wants to cut lose and goes kinda berserk, tough sometimes he doesn't know when to quit the fight.
Sayan pride.

Since Gogeta is not canon it's hard to compare them.

So first.
The Gogeta of GT vs. the Vegeto in the Manga:
That'S an easya win for Gogeta since both are stronger than they were in the manga

Gogeta versus Vegeto with the same Vegetas and Gokus:
I'd say thats a win for Vegeto.
They add their power and do not need to equal them.
The Fusion is carried through perfectly with the Potaras.
Vegeto has an unlimited amount of time, Gogeta can only stay that for 30 Minutes)

Originally posted by HigH ScholaR
Tien would slap up Krillen

Tien>Krillen (all through DB)
Tien>Krillen (all through DBZ)

Tien is also prpbably the best fighter in terms of martial art skills and has top notch life energy.

anyway how the Hell is krillen stronger.

but even though it was a filler why have Tien beat down two of the ginyu force at half power if he wasn't able to. I say half power as i remember he was divided into two.

krillin>tien(DBZ) is bio clearly says strongest human
because it a filler no filler make any sense there made to waist time.
krillin also was by the buu saga a good dela more powerful then tien
kid buu>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> super buu
tien's best attack with kid buu not looking did no damage what so ever to super buu. hell super buu did not even feel it.
krillin on the other hand cut kid buu in haft dodged one of kid buus attacks. took a beat from kid buu and also got hit with a huge beam from kid buu and was pritty fine from all that.
a beam haft the size that landed in front of piccon and the blonde guy nocked them out.
king ki also said thet krillin was the strongest fighter in the dead realm
also yamach stated at the tourment that krillin was the strongest human fighter.
krillin fought bio brolly as well and did much better then his wife who could not even hurt bio brolly.
krillin cut a huge as slash in bio brolly neck
also krillin goten and trunks killed bio brolly.

Vegito was the most powerful charcter in DBZ, I have the power ratings from japan, It states that regular vegito power level was 90,000,000 normal Super Saiyan 1 100,000,000 then Super Saiyan II 120,000,000. Vegito is so powerful he would kill broly with two blows as a normal saiyan, super saiyan vegito would fart on him and broly would have died.

I honestly hate to agree with Wolvie88888, cuz he's a fanboy, but this time hes right. Krillen is classified as the strongest human in dbz. tien may have been a contender, but muscles don't equate to power.
And to whomever brings up his stand against Cell, read this well. Tien didn't hurt Cell at all. He just kept him down. Its like if a little kid pushes me down, using my own weight against me. If he keeps on jumping on my stomach, thus knocking the wind outta me, doesn't mean he can stand up to me. He's just taking advantage of my loss of breath. Please believe that if Cell had tensed, he'd have shrugged off the blasts. Tien is a cool char, but Krillen is just stronger, and the whole Cell thing is a bad example of his strength.

wasn't Gogeta a SS4 (and a SS2 in a movie)?

Originally posted by wolverine8888
krillin>tien(DBZ) is bio clearly says strongest human
because it a filler no filler make any sense there made to waist time.
krillin also was by the buu saga a good dela more powerful then tien
kid buu>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> super buu
tien's best attack with kid buu not looking did no damage what so ever to super buu. hell super buu did not even feel it.
krillin on the other hand cut kid buu in haft dodged one of kid buus attacks. took a beat from kid buu and also got hit with a huge beam from kid buu and was pritty fine from all that.
a beam haft the size that landed in front of piccon and the blonde guy nocked them out.
king ki also said thet krillin was the strongest fighter in the dead realm
also yamach stated at the tourment that krillin was the strongest human fighter.
krillin fought bio brolly as well and did much better then his wife who could not even hurt bio brolly.
krillin cut a huge as slash in bio brolly neck
also krillin goten and trunks killed bio brolly.

Tenshinan wasn't in the last Tenkaichi tourneament.
The kienzan can cut through most substances, it's a very strong energy attack, but just cause Krilin created it, doesn't mean he's the best human fighter.
Who was the guy which stopped Cell from becoming Perfect?
Tenshinan with his improved Kikoho, saving C-18, and stopping the 2nd form of Cell, something that other guys weren't able to do, see Piccolo, who recently absorbed the Supreme.
IMHO, Tenshinan may be out of Terrestrial beings rankings cause a guy who can grow back lost limbs and has a third eye maybe a sort of hybrid, anyway, he's the best of the humans.

Ok well first off Elder kai said that the earing fusion was superior because of the no time limit, he never said it was stronger. his quote was "instantly your bodies will bind together and become much stronger, my kind of fusion" which makes it sound like he's just explaining fusion not saying its stronger.

Also fusion creates an entirly different perosn it dosen't favour 1 person.

As for saying DBGT Gogeta dosen't count because its filler, well all I'v gotta say is Gogeta is filler in general.

And Vegito wasn't playing around he was luring Buu into absorbing him, so realy he was getting straight down to buisness. But Vegito would win because they would be stalemating for the 30 minuits then Vegito would kill Goku and Vegeta.

Gogeta killed Janemba straight off, probaly because if he played around he was worried goku and Vegeta couldn't fuse again, and in GT all Gogeta did was play around.

And Goku and Vegeta are equal in fighting skill, if they weren't Goku would have kicked the crap out of Majin Vegeta. Gohan aint that godd of a fighter, he mainly beats people cause he's so much stronger.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Vegito was the most powerful charcter in DBZ, I have the power ratings from japan, It states that regular vegito power level was 90,000,000 normal Super Saiyan 1 100,000,000 then Super Saiyan II 120,000,000. Vegito is so powerful he would kill broly with two blows as a normal saiyan, super saiyan vegito would fart on him and broly would have died.

Well Both Goku and Vegeta by themselfs could do that to Broly as SSJ2's

Originally posted by Mainstream
wasn't Gogeta a SS4 (and a SS2 in a movie)?

Yeah, but I figured we compare the same Vegeta and the same Goku....and the thread starter said they'd fight SSJ1

Also, what do you consider as canon?

Either you only consider the Mangas, or you consider the Animes (DB, DBZ, DBGT) or you consider everything (Movies, and Comic adaptions too)