Aquaman vs. Thor without Hammer....?

Started by Darth Martin5 pages

What if this fight is around the ocean? also, I'm not sure if Thor can use magic properly without mnjolnir.

Originally posted by Lucid Lui
More agile? When does Thor show much agility?

when he was fighting masterson thor he was leaping over his attacks. Also I just thought an ageless thunder god would have learned some tricks over the years.

Originally posted by jasofisc
when he was fighting masterson thor he was leaping over his attacks. Also I just thought an ageless thunder god would have learned some tricks over the years.
Any chance you can get scans?

Aquaman's a very agile fighter. He's a swimmer, leaping around alot and using his legs is made for him. I highly doubt Thor has him beat in that area.

The only thing that can make Thor win this fight is his strenght no way in hell is he faster and more agile than Aquaman..
Aquaman is strong enough to do some serieus damage to Thor but Thor won't be able to hit Arthur.. ow and the few magical attacks Thor still has left without mjolnir won't do sh*t to AC his waterhand gives him the power to block those attacks + there's the slim chance that Aquaman's telepathy will work on Thor wel i'f that's so he's serieusly screwed

This is a list of every thing AC can trow at Thor from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquaman

Powers and abilities
Aquaman has multiple abilities, several of which derive from his aquatic physiology. His amphibious lungs allow him to breathe air or water. He can withstand the pressure and cold of the depths which also provides him high durability and super strength out of the water. For instance, he can easily throw a car hundreds of yards without much strain. He is a very fast swimmer which also translates to a high running speed on land. He is able to swim through the ocean at unmatched speeds, so fast that he can create a small tidal wave if the need arises. Arthur has been shown with the ability to throw water with the concussive force of a tidal wave, as well as leaping several stories at a time, either from land or water. He has enhanced senses due to his physiology as well. He can see in near total darkness and has super hearing. Aquaman's touch can also have a dehydrating effect, a consequence of how his body normally absorbs water while in the oceans. Outside of water, Aquaman will gradually dehydrate and his physical abilities and energy will waver in response.

Arthur's most well-known power is his ability to communicate with sea life, which is actually telepathy. His range is unknown since he can summon sealife from undisclosed distances. Psychic battles he's had have reverberated around the world so it is possible that his range is worldwide. Though most often used on sealife, Aquaman has shown the capacity to telepathically affect anything that evolved from marine life including humans and Martians. His telepathy is fairly powerful, at one point helping Martian Manhunter tap into the minds of everyone on the planet. By locating that part of the human brain that mankind shares with its marine ancestors, Aquaman can also disrupt some normal brain functions (walking, speech, etc.) with a seizure. Further, it should be noted that he does not ordinarily mentally control sealife into helping him. When he commands, most help out of respect for Aquaman, while others can also be persuaded or bargained with. Some animals, like piranha will not obey him at all due to their non-social nature.

After the loss of his hand, Aquaman replaced it with a cybernetic harpoon (often mistakenly called a hook) that responded to his thoughts. The harpoon could be fired and stay attached to Aquaman via a long line. At times, Aquaman would replace it with a normal looking cybernetic hand. Later, the harpoon would be replaced by the Waterbearer hand given to him by the Lady of the Lake. The hand was magical in nature and possessed various abilites. Aquaman could control its density, making it very hard. If Aquaman uses the hand in a negative way, it releases the Thirst. Instead he primarily used it to heal as well as cancel magic spells.

I don't have the scans i'm afraid I think their in the thor respect thread.

Originally posted by Aqua-pimp
The only thing that can make Thor win this fight is his strenght no way in hell is he faster and more agile than Aquaman..
Aquaman is strong enough to do some serieus damage to Thor but Thor won't be able to hit Arthur.. ow and the few magical attacks Thor still has left without mjolnir won't do sh*t to AC his waterhand gives him the power to block those attacks + there's the slim chance that Aquaman's telepathy will work on Thor wel i'f that's so he's serieusly screwed

This is a list of every thing AC can trow at Thor from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquaman

um thor can move as fast as the lightning and he still has godblast at his disposal soooooo that will fry aqua man. But when I thought about it more yeah aquaman is more agile.

um thor can move as fast as the lightning and he still has godblast at his disposal soooooo that will fry aqua man. But when I thought about it more yeah aquaman is more agile.

Yeah that's true...he can move at the speed of lightning when he uses mljolnir 😬 And if i read the thread correcly it states Aquaman is fighting a Thor without mjlonir.
Without mjolnir Thor is just as fast as you or me unles you can proof to me that Thor can fight at the speed of lightning without mjolnir....
(few days of silence..)
hmm no evidence hey.. ok i rest my case 😆

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Originally posted by Aqua-pimp
Yeah that's true...he can move at the speed of lightning when he uses mljolnir 😬 And if i read the thread correcly it states Aquaman is fighting a Thor without mjlonir.
Without mjolnir Thor is just as fast as you or me unles you can proof to me that Thor can fight at the speed of lightning without mjolnir....
(few days of silence..)
hmm no evidence hey.. ok i rest my case 😆

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Ok this is all i'm going to say on the matter because i'm not even a thor fan. even if i am wrong about the speed thing thor still has godblast and warrior maddness.

as for his speed we rarely ever see him without his hammer fighting anyone. Also you don't have any evidence to suggest that the hammer affects thor's fighting speed since that is not one of the stated functions of the hammer. One of the times we see thor fighting without his hammer is when we was attacked by wolverine cap america thing, and hulk. This was thor who was striped of his odin force, and no hammer and he took them all down. Inorder for him to do that he would have to some kind of extra speed considering hulk has taken many people who are strong and super speed.

as side from that I found this discription of thor's speed from the thor respect thread thanks to long pig's post.

10) SPEED: A) Thor could throw the hammer at the speed of light. See Thor#140, Thor#274; and, or can swing the hammer at TWICE the speed of light- Journey Into Mystery#102. B) In Thor -#393- it’s established that the speed of Thor’s hammer TRANSCENDS both TIME & SPACE. C) Also, Thor could appear anywhere across the Universe or other dimensions in just seconds (see- FF#339, and Thor#166). D) In addition, Thor could, visually, detect objects that move at fantastic speeds (this happen when Thor was the target of artillery fire- see Invaders#33- and Avengers-#281- when he saw the speedy Hermes). E) In the early issues of Journey Into Mystery, there were instances that Thor used Super-Human speed, physically speaking-that is. However, it’s impossible to measure his speed based on those depictions. However, in Marvel Team-up#26, it gives a slight more accurate description on Thor’s Super-Human speed, and you could make a similar case in Invaders-#33, where Thor (with his hammer) deflected artillery bullets fired at him by moving his ENITRE LEFT ARM at super-Human speed. Specifically, in Marvel Team Up-#26, the writer makes it fundamentally clear that Thor can move almost faster than mere MORTAL eyes can follow, and in Thor-#354, Thor was toying with Hela using speed that according to her was beyond comprehension. Thor stated that he was swift as the very lightning itself. G) Finally, the High Evolutionary using Thor’s DNA, did create a real Super-Speedster in Zefra. Question is, does Thor possess similar potential to that of Zefra due to his own unique DNA? After all, Thor’s DNA is quite different than that of mortals- Avengers-#14 (vol.1)- that’s for the writers to decide in some future date, I guess."

The last part diffently suggest that thor has natural speed (as far as fighting goes) and that it's not a by product of the hammer.

further more thor took out loki and his kid without the hammer. Loki has been show to be able to keep up with the surfer (at least as far as fighting goes)

http://img18.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thorbeatdown1bw.jpg

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/3656/thorspeed014aw.jpg

both are from the thor respect thread

Once again there is no way you can really tie thor's super speed to his hammer there just is no real evidence for it. Just because wonder woman has her lasso that doesn't mean her speed is from her lasso.

any way try not to declare yourself the winner so soon in debates it makes you look like a jerk.

That's quite a list you got there.. 😉

[QUOTE]Ok this is all i'm going to say on the matter because i'm not even a thor fan. even if i am wrong about the speed thing thor still has godblast and warrior maddness.

as for his speed we rarely ever see him without his hammer fighting anyone. Also you don't have any evidence to suggest that the hammer affects thor's fighting speed since that is not one of the stated functions of the hammer. One of the times we see thor fighting without his hammer is when we was attacked by wolverine cap america thing, and hulk. This was thor who was striped of his odin force, and no hammer and he took them all down. Inorder for him to do that he would have to some kind of extra speed considering hulk has taken many people who are strong and super speed.

Sure i have evidence that mjolnir affects thor's speed..just about every Thor comic on the planet is my evidence..Thor travels to galaxies with his hamer at near lightspeed do you want to tell me thor can move his body at light speed without his hammer???!!! 😱 Mjolnir is the reason Thor can counter the Silver surfer"s speed in a fight 😆

as side from that I found this discription of thor's speed from the thor respect thread thanks to long pig's post.

10) SPEED: A) Thor could throw the hammer at the speed of light. See Thor#140, Thor#274; and, or can swing the hammer at TWICE the speed of light- Journey Into Mystery#102. B) In Thor -#393- it’s established that the speed of Thor’s hammer TRANSCENDS both TIME & SPACE. C) Also, Thor could appear anywhere across the Universe or other dimensions in just seconds (see- FF#339, and Thor#166). D) In addition, Thor could, visually, detect objects that move at fantastic speeds (this happen when Thor was the target of artillery fire- see Invaders#33- and Avengers-#281- when he saw the speedy Hermes).

you just proved that Thor has enough STRENGHT to throw stuff at the speed of light 😉 but hey i agree.. that hammer o his really is powerfull isn't it.. 😆 you won't find something like that at wal mart 😂

E) In the early issues of Journey Into Mystery, there were instances that Thor used Super-Human speed, physically speaking-that is. However, it’s impossible to measure his speed based on those depictions. However, in Marvel Team-up#26, it gives a slight more accurate description on Thor’s Super-Human speed, and you could make a similar case in Invaders-#33, where Thor (with his hammer) deflected artillery bullets fired at him by moving his ENITRE LEFT ARM at super-Human speed. Specifically, in Marvel Team Up-#26, the writer makes it fundamentally clear that Thor can move almost faster than mere MORTAL eyes can follow, and in Thor-#354, Thor was toying with Hela using speed that according to her was beyond comprehension. Thor stated that he was swift as the very lightning itself. G) Finally, the High Evolutionary using Thor’s DNA, did create a real Super-Speedster in Zefra. Question is, does Thor possess similar potential to that of Zefra due to his own unique DNA? After all, Thor’s DNA is quite different than that of mortals- Avengers-#14 (vol.1)- that’s for the writers to decide in some future date, I guess."

The last part diffently suggest that thor has natural speed (as far as fighting goes) and that it's not a by product of the hammer.

further more thor took out loki and his kid without the hammer. Loki has been show to be able to keep up with the surfer (at least as far as fighting goes)

http://img18.imageshack.us/my.php?i...beatdown1bw.jpg

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/...rspeed014aw.jpg

both are from the thor respect thread

Thor is without a doubt much faster than the average human being...
Those are really cool pics bytheway however they don't prove he's faster than a captain America, Black panther or Aquaman.

Once again there is no way you can really tie thor's super speed to his hammer there just is no real evidence for it. Just because wonder woman has her lasso that doesn't mean her speed is from her lasso.

any way try not to declare yourself the winner so soon in debates it makes you look like a jerk.

Can i now declare myself the winner? 😬 😆

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actually thor is faster than captain anerica and black panther but not aquaman thor/herc like most gods except hermes ofcource possesses minor superspeed. without the hammer thor can move at 110-115 m/h

thor wins, he has a good resistances to telepathy. Also i dont see Aqua Man slugging it out with thor. AquaMan may be more agile than tor on paper, but its no speed that Thor dident handle before.

actually thor is faster than captain anerica and black panther but not aquaman thor/herc like most gods except hermes ofcource possesses minor superspeed. without the hammer thor can move at 110-115 m/h

Strenght->Thor

Speed->Aquaman

So you agree with me this is a fight between speed and strenght...

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Originally posted by Aqua-pimp
Strenght->Thor

Speed->Aquaman

So you agree with me this is a fight between speed and strenght...

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also durability, whereas Thor has a major advantage.

thor wins, he has a good resistances to telepathy. Also i dont see Aqua Man slugging it out with thor. AquaMan may be more agile than tor on paper, but its no speed that Thor dident handle before.

Correction: It's no speed Thor ever handle before....

without his hamer 😉

It's a whole different ball game without mjolnir 😆

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Originally posted by Aqua-pimp
Correction: It's no speed Thor ever handle before....

without his hamer 😉

It's a whole different ball game without mjolnir 😆

😎


Hmm, thor looks pretty agile and quicks here, notice thor is fighting without mijior, and laying a ass beating to Loki, and Fernis. this scan also displays Thor's superior h2h skills imo.
http://img18.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thorbeatdown1bw.jpg

Strength greatly effects your speed too. If you can throw something the speed of light, that means your arm was potentially moving at that speed as well when the object left your hand. Thor's reflexes are top notch, and his straight speed is nothing to be looked over.

Think about it, if you had legs that could squat 100s of tons, how fast do you think you could run the mile? How fast would you run in general? At least 100s of mph.

Strength greatly effects your speed too. If you can throw something the speed of light, that means your arm was potentially moving at that speed as well when the object left your hand. Thor's reflexes are top notch, and his straight speed is nothing to be looked over.

Main that's soooo true it explainse Thor's minor super speed..which isn't enough speed to win from Aquaman on that department.. 😆

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Hmm, thor looks pretty agile and quicks here, notice thor is fighting without mijior, and laying a ass beating to Loki, and Fernis. this scan also displays Thor's superior h2h skills imo.

Yes he does doesn't he ..😬

He's quite fast ..

but in AC league of fastness?..uhm

NO 😆

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Originally posted by Aqua-pimp
That's quite a list you got there.. 😉

Sure i have evidence that mjolnir affects thor's speed..just about every Thor comic on the planet is my evidence..Thor travels to galaxies with his hamer at near lightspeed do you want to tell me thor can move his body at light speed without his hammer???!!! 😱 Mjolnir is the reason Thor can counter the Silver surfer"s speed in a fight 😆

you just proved that Thor has enough STRENGHT to throw stuff at the speed of light 😉 but hey i agree.. that hammer o his really is powerfull isn't it.. 😆 you won't find something like that at wal mart 😂

Thor is without a doubt much faster than the average human being...
Those are really cool pics bytheway however they don't prove he's faster than a captain America, Black panther or Aquaman.

Can i now declare myself the winner? 😬 😆

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man dude you really don't read post very well do you I said seed as far as fighting goes not traveling speed. With out his hammer (like in the loki fight) he fights people who have superspeed.

every comic does not suggest in any way that the hammer increases his speed that's your assumption.

Once again you don't read the whole post I directed you to the last part of it where it talks about thor's DNA produced a speedster, that's his DNA not his hammer's.

Being tons faster then other gods who can keep up with the surfer (loki) with out his hammer shows that he's a lot faster then even aqua man

you can declare yourself the winner if you want to look like a jerk.

Originally posted by Aqua-pimp
Yes he does doesn't he ..😬

He's quite fast ..

but in AC league of fastness?..uhm

NO 😆

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you make aquaman sound like the flash

if thor can keep up with (and exceed) loki with out his hammer then what makes aquaman leauges faster then thor with out his hammer.