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Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

As for the Storm/Doom thread, nothing will ever change the fact that all he did was continually reply with non-relevant essays, struggling to prove irrelevant scientific points. It won't remove from the fact that it was him, Galactic STORM and STORMfront against about sixteen of the forums knowledgeable members. Let's try not getting five when we add two and two.

He said it himself. "I'll always argue Storm over Doom." He will. He didn't win anything, he just kept continuing where as me and everyone else stopped when it was dead. You're all making more of this than need be, and so is he.

Illadelph: I'm not "back". I came to sort out this BS.

-AC

Dont attempt to negate from my contributions to that thread merely because the word "storm" is a part of my user name. That is distinctly juvenile. My name has nothing to do with the character Storm whatsoever.

Lets revive this F4 Vs X-men thread and we'll see if Demi was justified in thinking you were the victim of a thrashing most severe. Sounds like it was a fun thread i think i'll join in this time. 2 secs lets see if i can find it.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Dont attempt to negate from my contributions to that thread merely because the word "storm" is a part of my user name. That is distinctly juvenile. My name has nothing to do with the character Storm whatsoever.

Lets revive this F4 Vs X-men thread and we'll see if Demi was justified in thinking you were the victim of a thrashing most severe. Sounds like it was a fun thread i think i'll join in this time. 2 secs lets see if i can find it.

It was actually a really good thread. I came back here for a while just to involve myself in it. It was also relatively civilised.

The other good one, if you wanna take a look, was Sue Storm Vs Emma Frost. Except Creshosk did the same thing there. Only to VVD instead.

It's actually a headache to talk to the guy. You specifically say what your point is and he says "So you're saying this?" and says something completely different. He says "I read between the lines", instead of reading the actual lines.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It was actually a really good thread. I came back here for a while just to involve myself in it. It was also relatively civilised.

The other good one, if you wanna take a look, was Sue Storm Vs Emma Frost. Except Creshosk did the same thing there. Only to VVD instead.

It's actually a headache to talk to the guy. You specifically say what your point is and he says "So you're saying this?" and says something completely different. He says "I read between the lines", instead of reading the actual lines.

-AC

What was the main point of the thread that you and Cresh were debating over?

Who would win out of the F4 or four X-Men (I think it was Colossus, Cyclops, Emma and Wolverine).

It wasn't even a debate in the true sense. It was me posting my points, him purposefully and continually misunderstanding them until I dumbed it down to the extreme that he realised nobody found him funny, and he ended up agreeing.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Who would win out of the F4 or four X-Men (I think it was Colossus, Cyclops, Emma and Wolverine).

It wasn't even a debate in the true sense. It was me posting my points, him purposefully and continually misunderstanding them until I dumbed it down to the extreme that he realised nobody found him funny, and he ended up agreeing.

-AC

In a sec im gonna make a similar thread. Care to contribute? 🙂

Depends what on. Might as well, if it's good.

-AC

Man, the things ego compels people to say.

Cresh owned you in that FF thread. Of course AC is going to disagree because AC believes he's undefeated in debates. Just liked knocked out boxers claim it's a lucky shot, or losing basketball teams blame officials. It's understandable. But anyone is welcome to revive that thread and decide for themselves. It was a summary, textbook thrashing. No shame in that....it happens.

As for Storm vs. Doom - I'll always argue for Storm against Doom because I believe that Storm can beat Doom. Not sure why you're trying to extrapolate more out of that statement than necessary. It's a simple, straight-forward statement. Did most people disagree? Yeah. But that doesn't count for much when most people said Doom wins because "he's Doom" and spread blatant falsehoods like he "beat" Silver Surfer. But that was when Doom had a stranglehold on KMC as the next best thing to Thanos because of crap logic like, "he's DOOM" and bullshit feats that we later uncovered never happened. I doubt he'd get as much support now.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It was actually a really good thread. I came back here for a while just to involve myself in it. It was also relatively civilised.

The other good one, if you wanna take a look, was Sue Storm Vs Emma Frost. Except Creshosk did the same thing there. Only to VVD instead.

It's actually a headache to talk to the guy. You specifically say what your point is and he says "So you're saying this?" and says something completely different. He says "I read between the lines", instead of reading the actual lines.

-AC

And yes creshosk can be pedantic, but he's pretty knowledgable.

Originally posted by demigawd
Cresh owned you in that FF thread. Of course AC is going to disagree because AC believes he's undefeated in debates. Just liked knocked out boxers claim it's a lucky shot, or losing basketball teams blame officials. It's understandable. But anyone is welcome to revive that thread and decide for themselves. It was a summary, textbook thrashing. No shame in that....it happens.

It wasn't though was it? Let's be perfectly, drastically honest with ourselves here.

He, for many many pages, PURPOSEFULLY twisted and misinterpreted my points. Anyone with brain cells can see that. I was making clear points that everyone in the thread understood and he would quote me with "So you're saying this?" "No, where did I say that? I said THIS." "Well ok, you didn't technically say that but I can tell you meant it." "How?" "I read between the lines." "But that's not what I meant." "It is, I can tell". If that, to you, is an owning, then it's no wonder you consider yourself to be a great debator. That's exactly what he did, and I'm not playing the victim because he's done it to VVD and to C-Master. I'm not trying to demean that the guy might know a lot about comics, but he's an idiot. The fact that you are classifying that as an "owning" is for two reasons:

A) Because you dislike me.

B) Because that's what you define it as.

I'm willing to be it's the latter.

If the definition of owning is what I just showed you, idiocy, then yes. I got owned. If the definition of owned is completely countering someone's points relevantly, intelligently and with common sense, then he didn't. Because he lacked all three of those.

Originally posted by demigawd
As for Storm vs. Doom - I'll always argue for Storm against Doom because I believe that Storm can beat Doom. Not sure why you're trying to extrapolate more out of that statement than necessary.

I said that you would always argue that Storm could beat Doom, where did I say otherwise? You're turning into Creshosk.

Originally posted by demigawd
It's a simple, straight-forward statement. Did most people disagree? Yeah. But that doesn't count for much when most people said Doom wins because "he's Doom" and spread blatant falsehoods like he "beat" Silver Surfer. But that was when Doom had a stranglehold on KMC as the next best thing to Thanos because of crap logic like, "he's DOOM" and bullshit feats that we later uncovered never happened. I doubt he'd get as much support now.

Considering I went back over that thread ages ago, counted the amount of people who posted more than once and more in depth than "he's Doom" (I didn't count those people for argument's sake), I'd say you're just making excuses.

People on this forum are swayed by whoever the "clever" guy is. If you can convince people of something, no matter how much bullshit you speak, they'll follow you.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
[B]It wasn't though was it? Let's be perfectly, drastically honest with ourselves here.

He, for many many pages, PURPOSEFULLY twisted and misinterpreted my points. Anyone with brain cells can see that. I was making clear points that everyone in the thread understood and he would quote me with "So you're saying this?" "No, where did I say that? I said THIS." "Well ok, you didn't technically say that but I can tell you meant it." "How?" "I read between the lines." "But that's not what I meant." "It is, I can tell". If that, to you, is an owning, then it's no wonder you consider yourself to be a great debator. That's exactly what he did, and I'm not playing the victim because he's done it to VVD and to C-Master. I'm not trying to demean that the guy might know a lot about comics, but he's an idiot. The fact that you are classifying that as an "owning" is for two reasons:

A) Because you dislike me.

B) Because that's what you define it as.

I'm willing to be it's the latter.

I don't dislike anybody on here - dislike is a reserved word for people I know in real life. As for whether or not he owned you, you can say what you want about how he's an idiot and how he was unable to counter your points, etc., but he did a damn good job of it to me. But hey, I'm not trying to convince YOU that you got owned....that's an impossible task. I'm just saying, if anybody here wants to decide for themselves, the thread still exists somewhere.

And that's all I'm going to say about that.

I said that you would always argue that Storm could beat Doom, where did I say otherwise? You're turning into Creshosk.

I don't know what you're talking about. I SAID that you said that I would always argue that Storm would beat Doom, which is accurate. But what you ALSO said is that it's because I argue for the sake of arguing, and that's not the case. I'll always argue that Storm would beat Doom because I believe that Storm would beat Doom. Nothing more, nothing less. There's nothing else to read into my tendencies or personality in there but that.

Considering I went back over that thread ages ago, counted the amount of people who posted more than once and more in depth than "he's Doom" (I didn't count those people for argument's sake), I'd say you're just making excuses.

Naw, I'm just recalling correctly. It was a plague on this board that until a few months ago, severely skewed Doom debates. Few people offered more insightful opinions on Doom than that.

People on this forum are swayed by whoever the "clever" guy is. If you can convince people of something, no matter how much bullshit you speak, they'll follow you.

Indeed. Isn't that your MO?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

People on this forum are swayed by whoever the "clever" guy is. If you can convince people of something, no matter how much bullshit you speak, they'll follow you.

-AC

Damn i hate Kuntz like that. 🙂

<<Damn i hate Kuntz like that. >>

nice.

😆

Originally posted by demigawd
I'm not trying to convince YOU that you got owned....that's an impossible task. I'm just saying, if anybody here wants to decide for themselves, the thread still exists somewhere.

And that's all I'm going to say about that.

Well does that constitute an owning to you? What I just showed? Because that's what he did and what he did was stupid and idiotic. No way to debate. So you're still giving him RESPECT for being that way, why? Because it was me?

Originally posted by demigawd
I don't know what you're talking about. I SAID that you said that I would always argue that Storm would beat Doom, which is accurate. But what you ALSO said is that it's because I argue for the sake of arguing, and that's not the case. I'll always argue that Storm would beat Doom because I believe that Storm would beat Doom. Nothing more, nothing less. There's nothing else to read into my tendencies or personality in there but that.

Well then it's probably worse that you can find pages worth of argument in anything. But whatever.

Originally posted by demigawd
Naw, I'm just recalling correctly. It was a plague on this board that until a few months ago, severely skewed Doom debates. Few people offered more insightful opinions on Doom than that.

I'm not gonna deny that Doom had fanboys. Who doesn't? I just think he got knocked because of his fanboys rather than you taking a step back and going "Well AC, VVD, Wynddar and Never clearly aren't stupid fanboys. They seem to know what they're talking about, and they have a high opinion of Doom." When it was us, it was overrating. When it was a fanboy, he was unknowledgeable. With you and Doom, it's flawed from the beginning. You just don't like Doom, so any debate is tainted.

Originally posted by demigawd
Indeed. Isn't that your MO?

I dunno, you're the one who showed up and had an instant army of newbie followers because you know science. Board scientist? More like board pied piper.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Well does that constitute an owning to you? What I just showed?

No, what you showned doesn't constitute owning at all.

But then again, that's not how the exchange went between you and Cresh, so I guess what you showed doesn't show anything, does it?

Because that's what he did and what he did was stupid and idiotic. No way to debate. So you're still giving him RESPECT for being that way, why? Because it was me?

Cresh has done a good job debating against a number of people - it's not just you. Stop making it out to be some campaign I have against you. The FF thread was just the first time I saw Cresh in action, since, as I understood it, he usually stayed in the Wolverine/Spider-Man threads (and I never read those). You just happened to be on the receiving end.

Well then it's probably worse that you can find pages worth of argument in anything. But whatever.

heh. This coming from you.

I'm not gonna deny that Doom had fanboys. Who doesn't? I just think he got knocked because of his fanboys rather than you taking a step back and going "Well AC, VVD, Wynddar and Never clearly aren't stupid fanboys. They seem to know what they're talking about, and they have a high opinion of Doom." When it was us, it was overrating. When it was a fanboy, he was unknowledgeable. With you and Doom, it's flawed from the beginning. You just don't like Doom, so any debate is tainted.

I have no problem with Doom. I just think when a character gets beaten by the likes of Luke Cage, Squirrel Girl, Nova (not the Herald, either) and Thing that you have to take a step back and assess things more honestly than you, VVD, Wyndar and (who's Never?) have been doing.

I dunno, you're the one who showed up and had an instant army of newbie followers because you know science. Board scientist? More like board pied piper.

hahaha, don't get mad because people prefer those who actually supply examples for what they're debating. You still have your fanboys who appreciate your "witty" "wordplay".

Originally posted by demigawd
No, what you showned doesn't constitute owning at all.

But then again, that's not how the exchange went between you and Cresh, so I guess what you showed doesn't show anything, does it?

I proved a point. He told me what I was saying, wrongly. I showed him again, he again tried to tell me what I meant purely because he wanted to believe it. I showed him time after time what my point was and he kept saying that although I didn't SAY it, he could tell what I meant. Which is idiotic isn't it? Reading between the lines and telling someone else what THEY mean just because you have nothing. If that constitutes an owning, then it's stupid. Because when my actual point was perceived by him, he said "So what you're saying is...." "Yes. I've been saying that for 30 pages." "Ohhh, yes I agree."

Originally posted by demigawd
Cresh has done a good job debating against a number of people - it's not just you. Stop making it out to be some campaign I have against you. The FF thread was just the first time I saw Cresh in action, since, as I understood it, he usually stayed in the Wolverine/Spider-Man threads (and I never read those). You just happened to be on the receiving end.

He didn't do good though, he did what I said he did and anyone who read the thread can see that. If that constitutes owning, then I was owned. I think what he did was idiotic, no real way to debate. Which it was.

Originally posted by demigawd
heh. This coming from you.

^^^ Proving my point. Thanks.

Originally posted by demigawd
I have no problem with Doom. I just think when a character gets beaten by the likes of Luke Cage, Squirrel Girl, Nova (not the Herald, either) and Thing that you have to take a step back and assess things more honestly than you, VVD, Wyndar and (who's Never?) have been doing.

Yet you somehow overlook Magneto's impromptu rise to fame and deem it very acceptable...

Originally posted by demigawd
hahaha, don't get mad because people prefer those who actually supply examples for what they're debating. You still have your fanboys who appreciate your "witty" "wordplay".

If people appreciate your examples of overly scientific to the point of irrelevancy, then keep them. I don't want them. I don't want fans or support, I don't need it.

-AC

God I take a piss and he's countered, damn you type fast. 😐

There are some really good debators in this forum IMO. I'm speaking mainly of the ones who disagree with me....

Nobody remembers Mister L.C. Huh?

Originally posted by The MISTER
There are some really good debators in this forum IMO. I'm speaking mainly of the ones who disagree with me....

Nobody remembers Mister L.C. Huh?

Me
You
Zahit
Strawnilla
Who-?kid
whobdamandog
MatchesMalone

vs

Jinzin
Cresh
Merc

Those were the good ol' days. Wouldn't trade it for the world, it got me addicted to the place. Now its just spam and crap threads.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I proved a point. He told me what I was saying, wrongly. I showed him again, he again tried to tell me what I meant purely because he wanted to believe it. I showed him time after time what my point was and he kept saying that although I didn't SAY it, he could tell what I meant. Which is idiotic isn't it? Reading between the lines and telling someone else what THEY mean just because you have nothing. If that constitutes an owning, then it's stupid. Because when my actual point was perceived by him, he said "So what you're saying is...." "Yes. I've been saying that for 30 pages." "Ohhh, yes I agree."

Except that's not what happened.

He didn't do good though, he did what I said he did and anyone who read the thread can see that. If that constitutes owning, then I was owned. I think what he did was idiotic, no real way to debate. Which it was.

Except that's not what happened.

Yet you somehow overlook Magneto's impromptu rise to fame and deem it very acceptable...

Very, but I put him in perspective, too. Solidly under Silver Surfer. Solidly over Dr. Doom.

I don't want fans or support, I don't need it.

That makes two of us.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I have no "problem" with anyone on here. I just don't appreciate all this giving credit to members you like, coincidentally claiming they thrashed a member you don't like.
-AC [/B]

There does seem to be a lot of nuthugging going on.

*grabs AC's nutz..begins caressing*