DP is the madden persona of Jean. Jean takes this one without so much effort. The PF magnifies the host's powers by infinite and JEAN is already an omega level mutant, so multiplying an omega power by infinite is scary. AND DP feeds off on cosmic energons and Silver Surfer is a living cosmic battery. He isn't going to go down without a fight but in the end DP will prevail. When chicks go bad, all hell breaks lose.
Silly boy, did you not see what she did to D' Bari's own sun? She dove and consumed it and destroyed the whole solar system in the process. You're basing your fact on the movie itself but even so, she is still bad ass. In the comics, she's practically undefeatable. The reason why a laser cannon took her out is because her love for her friends and scott gave her a window of oppurtunity to hold the PF for a bit and sacrificed herself. NOW, if there are no factors that would prevent her from holding back the PF, do u honestly think, Silver Surfer would stand a chance against her? SHE feeds off on cosmic energy. Were you not listening to me? What SS can do, she can it multiple times better. AND this is DP we are talking about who has no thresholds or morals. When she's bad, galaxies shit in their pants!!!
And the newsest Phoenix fanboy emerges.
Wolverine killed her at the height of her power in Exiles #3.
She's been killed and serious injured by beam weapons from starships that are much weaker then what Surfer can shoot.
Xorn gave her a stroke and killed her.
What you birdlove people don't get is that the Avatar can be killed like any normal person, and that renders the bird inert until it gets a new avatar.
And it doesnt matter if she comes back, using the rules of these forums if he kills her once he wins the debate.
You need to get over your Fanboyism and face reality.
Tootsie roll, do you honestly think she's just going to stand there like a dumb ass and have SS shoot her down? She's a TK and in phoenix mode, her TK is godhood. How well does SS fare against telepathy in full magnitude? DP would crush him physically and mentally at the same time. There wouldn't be anything to hold her back.....no love and no friends just pure chaos and destruction. SS is uber but he has nothing on DP AND this is Jean we're talking here......the top notch wielder of the PF. Shit, she wields the force like no other. As much as I love SS, he's not taking her down, period. DP is the equavalent of Parallax. She's in a league of her own. What?!?!? SS rides on a freaking board and streaks around the universe feeling shitty and guilty about what he did and wants to remorse. His conscious is his downfall. DP on the other hand doesn't care who gets hurt in the process as long as she experiences human sensations. PLUS!!! she looks cooler than SS. She has a firebird aura around her that spans miles and miles while he's in some white skin tight tutu, prancing around on his board that looks like a sorry excuse for a closet door.
Wolverine killed her at the height of her power in Exiles #3.
She's been killed and serious injured by beam weapons from starships that are much weaker then what Surfer can shoot.
Xorn gave her a stroke and killed her.
What you birdlove people don't get is that the Avatar can be killed like any normal person, and that renders the bird inert until it gets a new avatar.
And it doesnt matter if she comes back, using the rules of these forums if he kills her once he wins the debate.
You need to get over your Fanboyism and face reality.
Surfer can move faster then jean can focus, he once went so fast he traveled in time. And Surfer has killed in the past many times. He once blasted Thanos to dust.
Read up on Surfer before you shoot your mouth off.
LMAO, there are other characters then your little bird.
Jean can open up stargates and travel from one point and in any tenses (past, present, and future) at will. I'm not a PF fanatic. I'm pointing out that there's no way for SS to win this one. Traveling back in time has nothing to do with the battle. You say, well, he can go back in time and just kill jean before she became DP. That concept won't work because, you change one course of time, the other two will be affected of the outcome. You kill Jean and what she had done or will do will never happen. Case and point, by killing jean in the past, she would never have saved her friends from the reentry in space, saved baby nathan during the inferno saga, became the epitome of a higher evolution (transcending beyond all planes), and wouldn't have written earth 616's history and scott would have forced to close the school for good and no more x-men continuation. IN FACT, when she met death in X-men forever, Death has stated that Jean has transcended beyond all planes that not even Death can claim her. She is one of the few mutants along with Toad, Mystique, and Iceman that have changed and will change the destiny of mankind. All I'm saying is that you're going up against a being whose power caused a major ruckus in the marvel verse. Think about it.
Originally posted by jffxex1980
WERE YOU NOT LISTENING???? HER LOVE FOR HER FRIENDS HELD BACK THE PF FOR A SECOND AND THAT WAS IN THE MOVIE!!! WITH NO FACTORS INVOLVED, SS'S ASS GETS HIS ASS HANDED TO HIM EVERY WEEK AND TWICE ON SUNDAY.
LOL see guys this is what we call DARK Phoenix Fanboyism. LMAO 😄
In exiles 3 all of her humanity had been erased, she murdered cyclops, Wolverine was abel to take her out with his claws.
Surfer blasts the avatar to a crisp and the Force back to the White padded room. 😱
Originally posted by Ext@nt
LOL see guys this is what we call DARK Phoenix Fanboyism. LMAO 😄In exiles 3 all of her humanity had been erased, she murdered cyclops, Wolverine was abel to take her out with his claws.
Surfer blasts the avatar to a crisp and the Force back to the White padded room. 😱
That is Dark Pheonix re-written or retconned...
If you own the original Dark Pheonix saga, then you will recall that all the X Men attacked her at once, and they phased right threw her....she was unharmed and simply laughing at thier attempts...
...Do not forget that she devoured the star, it exploded destroyed several Shiar planets and one star ship...
She survived...
She ended up having to kill herself, voluntarily..since no one else stood a chance....
Dark Pheonix has been rewritten to a lesser extant of power, so she can become defeatable....in that state, she may lose..
If you are talking about the original Dark Pheonix, than Silver Surfer gets his ass handed to him and gets his surfboard stained too 😉
Take it to em, extant. These pheonix fanboys don't wanna see reality.
If Surfer goes all out in the first few seconds of battle before the pheonix starts devour his energy or a suns, he wins.
If not, the pheonix devours all.
But what many of the fanboys are ignoring is that Xorneto killed Jean with a planet level EMP.... and the Surfer has way more power than that.
So to say he can't beat DP is laughable.