The reason DE Sidious isn't considered as powerful as he should be is because
a. Most people here haven't read the comics
b. He used to have a large fanboy group. Same thing happened to Maul and Koon. They were overpowered by the forum and are now underestimated.
Still, the following could take DE Sidious in a one-on-one fight IMO:
Ragnos
Sadow
Kressh
Exar
Nadd
Ulic
NJO Luke
Lord Simus
Ajunta Pall
Tulak Hord
Vengeance. You seem cool and all, and I respect a fellow Sidious fan. But from what we gather, Ragnos had control of Sith Magic. Arts that were lost before Sidious was conceived. Now, granted. It wouldn't be an ownage fest as many believe it to be. But Ragnos was physically better than Sidious (even in Dark Empire), and the others faced down many Jedi in combat. Many more than Sidious faced.
However, there were more Jedi back in that day too. Sidious had no trouble in ANY of his battles (even when he was dying). So I agree that you can't necessarily say that:
"Kun would own DE Sidious. He slaughtered thousands of Jedi in battle."
Well, duh, in DE Sidious's time there were only 100 Jedi, or so. So there is no telling. As I said, it would be close between Kun and DE Sidious or DE Sidious and NJO Luke.
Ragnos is stronger. And the other Sith lived in fear of him. He even had access to arts Sidious himself did not. So I would imagine he is still stronger.
He'd beat DE Sidious. I'm sure.
Originally posted by Escape81
Vengeance. You seem cool and all, and I respect a fellow Sidious fan. But from what we gather, Ragnos had control of Sith Magic. Arts that were lost before Sidious was conceived. Now, granted. It wouldn't be an ownage fest as many believe it to be. But Ragnos was physically better than Sidious (even in Dark Empire), and the others faced down many Jedi in combat. Many more than Sidious faced.However, there were more Jedi back in that day too. Sidious had no trouble in ANY of his battles (even when he was dying). So I agree that you can't necessarily say that:
"Kun would own DE Sidious. He slaughtered thousands of Jedi in battle."
Well, duh, in DE Sidious's time there were only 100 Jedi, or so. So there is no telling. As I said, it would be close between Kun and DE Sidious or DE Sidious and NJO Luke.
Ragnos is stronger. And the other Sith lived in fear of him. He even had access to arts Sidious himself did not. So I would imagine he is still stronger.
He'd beat DE Sidious. I'm sure.
Well yeah even I doubt sidious chances against ragnos. However If you mean naga sadow etc. like I thought you did than I would have to say that there is no real proof that they would have the upper hand.
Hmm...DE Sidious used one of those force storms to throw Luke from Coruscant to Byss. What would hinder him if he just likes to throw Mace, Yoda and Dooku to the next planet or into outer space ?
The trio only has a chance when Sidious can't use abilities like that and so they really have to start very close to him and immediatly jump at / kill him.
Again, it did not look - nor produce - the symptoms of a Force storm. It looked and had the properties of a manipulated wormhole. And it did not show Palpatine when it was summoned, so it is possible that it can be formed at any time.
Perhaps three minutes or so, tops. He planned on destroying the fleet in front of Coruscant with one, and he left Luke and Leia alive. Knowing that they would eventually recover, I'm sure it wasn't a feat that required an hour.
Bottom line. I agree with Nai on this. If they do not act quickly, Sidious kills them all.