IGN's Top 20 PS2 Games of all time

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Not the best refutation.

over rated means that its not as good as its you'd think, because of hype and other people. GTA SA, is a very good game, ill put it at that

Many rate it as the greatest game of all time.

Which is overhyping it. Because it is NOT the best game. Fun, but not particularly anything special.

Overrated means that it's given more credit than it deserves.

Originally posted by Lana
Which is overhyping it. Because it is NOT the best game. Fun, but not particularly anything special.

Overrated means that it's given more credit than it deserves.

a lot of people like this game, and bought it, thats why its so successful, and thats why its still going.

That doesn't mean it's one of the best games ever. Popular doesn't always have anything to do with how good it actually is; music is a good example of this.

The GTA games are not the best ever, and the only real reason they're anything special is because you get to roam a big map, and perform acts of senseless violence.

Originally posted by Lana
That doesn't mean it's one of the best games ever. Popular doesn't always have anything to do with how good it actually is; music is a good example of this.

The GTA games are not the best ever, and the only real reason they're anything special is because you get to roam a big map, and perform acts of senseless violence.

its popular because it is good. performing acts of senseless violence(in a game) is fun, and you can choose to actually do a mission when you want to. This game is the best ever on ps2. sure the graphics arent very good, but a lot of people dont care about graphics.

They are good games, but they're not great. Like I said, something being popular doesn't necessarily have a thing to do with it being good, just it targetting a certain audience. And the GTA series is FAR from being the best games ever for PS2, there are many more that are far superior.

I have not playe dthe system ones

Originally posted by Lana
That doesn't mean it's one of the best games ever. Popular doesn't always have anything to do with how good it actually is; music is a good example of this.

The GTA games are not the best ever, and the only real reason they're anything special is because you get to roam a big map, and perform acts of senseless violence.

But you make it sound like its a bad thing. It's special because you had the freedom to do all of these things. It would've been just as good without the adult content.

The thing is, it's for those reasons that people think it's the best game ever, even though there are many games that are much better.

Yah, you gotta point there sadly. But i think it is one of the best games ever because i can't think of any other game within its genre that is better than GTA. Of course there's better games outside the genre but inside, no.

As Lana said, popularity doesn't make a game good- if anything, it's often a sign of overrating.

The word 'freedom' is used too loosely about those games. They are definitely overrated in that respect.

However, I believe the last word should go to Rolling Stone magazine, which supplied the quote on the cover of the latest version of the GTA trilogy available to buy:

'It's not just a new frontier for games, it's a new frontier for humanity.'

And that's the end of that chapter.

Originally posted by Lana
The thing is, it's for those reasons that people think it's the best game ever, even though there are many games that are much better.

they're are probably games better than GTA SA, but this game is one of the most popular on ps2, it sold a lot too. I heard that Beyond Good & Evil was a great game, but was over looked, but what is a good game without popularity?

There are plenty of good games that are overlooked and not terribly popular. Just like in real life, popularity doesn't mean a thing when it comes down to it.

No probably about it, there ARE better games than GTA.

Originally posted by Lana
There are plenty of good games that are overlooked and not terribly popular. Just like in real life, popularity doesn't mean a thing when it comes down to it.

No probably about it, there ARE better games than GTA.

if no one likes the game, then is it any good???

Not being popular doesn't mean that no one likes it nor does it mean it's not any good. The only games that become massively popular are the ones that are hyped and advertised to hell, but not all games have that. Katamari Damacy is one of my favorite games at the moment -- it's a simple, fun, and great game. But it's not hugely popular or heard of. This doesn't mean it's not any good.

Ico is a prime example. Not very popular, but a superb game. It got Game of the Month in OPM, I believe, and remains a true favorite of theirs, regardless of its popularity. Some great games just aren't marketed correctly (i.e. Beyond Good and Evil.)

the things where you role around in a ball and collect the sun...I think thats part 2 we love katamari..

Originally posted by Lana
Not being popular doesn't mean that no one likes it nor does it mean it's not any good. The only games that become massively popular are the ones that are hyped and advertised to hell, but not all games have that. Katamari Damacy is one of my favorite games at the moment -- it's a simple, fun, and great game. But it's not hugely popular or heard of. This doesn't mean it's not any good.

but there is a reason why GTA is advertised, because it is a great game! theres no other game like this, that is better(so far). You cannot compare Grand Theft Auto San Andreas to Katarmi Damacy: it is hugely popular probably in japan.

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
the things where you role around in a ball and collect the sun...I think thats part 2 we love katamari..

They just made a sequel to it, yeah.

Originally posted by Silverstein
but there is a reason why GTA is advertised, because it is a great game! theres no other game like this, that is better(so far). You cannot compare Grand Theft Auto San Andreas to Katarmi Damacy: it is hugely popular probably in japan.

There are plenty of games that can be compared to GTA and beat it. Plain and simple. It's a good game, but NOT the best ever. Plenty of games that are advertised also turn out to be flops, remember.