Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
"Gangsta" in the music industry doesn't exist. They're all storytellers.
Im not quite sure that's correct.
And I didnt say it did exist but thats how they represent themselves.
Originally posted by The True Fear
English insluting is one of they lowest forms of internet bashing.
True. It usually has nothing to do with the original debate and is just a desperate remark but someone who's losing ideas.
Originally posted by kmcdude
😆 Most of them only listen to Eminem and Nelly and claim they are hardcore rap fans,which is another reason I hate them,they also have like 2 14 yr old tryhard teenybopper girls with them(that proberly dont even put out) that they claim are there ''hoe's'' 😆
if they think listening to Eminem and Nelly is hardcore rap their stupid 😐 and your NO pimp if u have 14 yr olds for hoes hysterical
There's two different ways to the topic people never bother looking at;
If these "artists" have any sort of ties to organized crime, given the lack of confidentiality in the entertainment industry, the FBI and CIA would know full well if they were involved. On top of that, I'm sure they're subjected to IRS audits, like a lot of big money holders, in which they'd have to provide a history of their current income and expenses, private holdings, CD's, etc, etc etc.
Second, all the flashy accessories you see these guys wearing? They're gifts. Most rappers can't afford shit. Is it any wonder that these guys are picked up, rap about "how it was" in the "hustle"? How it was, but how it isn't anymore. They don't live that lifestyle, because they don't need to, and they've long since put those people and those gangs behind them. There are a few that are loyal, i.e. 50 Cent, as fake as he may be, and Biggie, who always kept Bed-Stuy ties. These guys are made by the industry, so when they brag about having so many cars and what not, it's not on their dime until after YEARS of being in the game. Until then, they freeload.
None of them are pimps, either, considering prostitution is illegal in the US, except for Nevada. On top of that, when the hell does a platinum record artist have time to maintain a legitimate brothel. Please. These guys are nothing more than clones of a rags to ritches story with which too many black kids can relate to, and white kids want to adopt, because they never tried to be themselves in the first place, so they latch on to the most easily adoptable lifestyle outside of pop-punk, which is what we sadly refer to now as "hip hop". They weave some intricate stories about a failed past, and now that they're getting paid, like some reality television has-been to rhyme their life experiences over a computer generated beat to sell to people, regardless how many times they've heard the same lame ass story before. Then they get into being braggarts, and most totally ignore it.
Today's "hip hop" is a disgrace and a total bastardization of what it once stood for. Blurring the line between the two goes to show they don't know, and never knew what the lifestyle was all about.
Mark my words, rap would probably do just as well if these dorks rhymed nursery stories over a beat, because the message is always the same, not that anyone listens to these guys for their mastering of the English "slang-uage" and their articulation.
Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
There's two different ways to the topic people never bother looking at;If these "artists" have any sort of ties to organized crime, given the lack of confidentiality in the entertainment industry, the FBI and CIA would know full well if they were involved. On top of that, I'm sure they're subjected to IRS audits, like a lot of big money holders, in which they'd have to provide a history of their current income and expenses, private holdings, CD's, etc, etc etc.
Second, all the flashy accessories you see these guys wearing? They're gifts. Most rappers can't afford shit. Is it any wonder that these guys are picked up, rap about "how it was" in the "hustle"? How it was, but how it isn't anymore. They don't live that lifestyle, because they don't need to, and they've long since put those people and those gangs behind them. There are a few that are loyal, i.e. 50 Cent, as fake as he may be, and Biggie, who always kept Bed-Stuy ties. These guys are made by the industry, so when they brag about having so many cars and what not, it's not on their dime until after YEARS of being in the game. Until then, they freeload.
None of them are pimps, either, considering prostitution is illegal in the US, except for Nevada. On top of that, when the hell does a platinum record artist have time to maintain a legitimate brothel. Please. These guys are nothing more than clones of a rags to ritches story with which too many black kids can relate to, and white kids want to adopt, because they never tried to be themselves in the first place, so they latch on to the most easily adoptable lifestyle outside of pop-punk, which is what we sadly refer to now as "hip hop". They weave some intricate stories about a failed past, and now that they're getting paid, like some reality television has-been to rhyme their life experiences over a computer generated beat to sell to people, regardless how many times they've heard the same lame ass story before. Then they get into being braggarts, and most totally ignore it.
Today's "hip hop" is a disgrace and a total bastardization of what it once stood for. Blurring the line between the two goes to show they don't know, and never knew what the lifestyle was all about.
Mark my words, rap would probably do just as well if these dorks rhymed nursery stories over a beat, because the message is always the same, not that anyone listens to these guys for their mastering of the English "slang-uage" and their articulation.
Well said. But I don't even consider 50, Lil Jon, T.I., Mike Jones and the whole mainstream crew to be hip hop. It's really pop music only it's directed to wannabe gangsters(although it could be said that it isn't even music, since all 50 and all of his mainstream cronies do is mumble or shout incoherent lyrics).
..and on that note, Hip-Hop is FAR from dead. While it's naturally going to progress, namely out of whole "message" era, which is what laid the foundation, Hip-Hop, like I've said so many times before is NOT on the radio.
For instance, I was listening to the new DangerDoom this afternoon. Like Doc reflects in his title and av, the track "Space Ho's" opens with a Space Ghost dialogue! It's fun music, theres no glorification of violence, no real sexually demeaning verbiage, etc. It's fun music, with guys that can rhyme words you could never imagine, and they never really take themselves seriously, while they are STILL incredibly talented with word play. Best of all, they'd probably PREFER respect over money any goddamn day.
If I had to define Hip Hop today, I'd rather it be defined by guys that can write their own crazy lyrics, speak them in ways that are otherwise unfathomable, on topics as silly as Space Ghost, then to call it what everyone ELSE thinks it is, which is "expression".
It's not expression, it's capitalism in the music industry. It's a quick buck and a few nice paydays for some other joker who happened to have a rough childhood, and a marketable image, either before or after he was signed. It's a template by which kids can take a piece of, make it their own, and associate with it, while they're still as fake as the emcees that put it out there.
*throws mic down*
😂
Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
That's why Ice-T is the OG, and probably the greatest hardcore rapper ever. Pretty underrated, to boot. He's what Eazy E always wished to be, but never was.My god. If everyone would just watch "CB-4" once in their lives, they'd be set straight.
No, Easy E was hardcore to the max,trust me
Eazy E was not at all hardcore. His legacy was that of being for peace. Ever hear the NWA track "We're All the Same Gang"? Alrighty then. He got lumped in the whole gangster mentality with the rest of NWA. Meanwhile, Eric Wright was pretty much a walking contradiction. A studio gangster. He had good intentions, the likes of which eventually got across once he went solo, but in the background, he played a role that the industry made him fill. Shit, he ended up making fun of HIMSELF on NWA's last records. He knew what was up, he wasn't stupid.
Dre even outed all of NWA after leaving, Eazy in particular;
Then I got these fake-ass niggaz I first drew with
Claimin' that they non-violent, talkin' like they Ruthless
Spit venom in interviews, speakin' on reunions
Move units, then talk shit and we can do this
Until then - I ain't even speakin' your name
Just keep my name outta yo' mouth and we can keep it the same
Like I said. Watch "CB-4" and it will clear everything up. It even parodies this whole "gangsta look" everyone's hung up on.