Originally posted by yahman
Oh G.S. i love it when you post about something i actually care about.“The OMACS have had some very bad showings as well against the likes of Beast Boy”
I agree that their performances, in the Omac Project mini, where at a low standard, but their performances, in Superman’s own comic have been very impressive.
And yet you cant totally discount their low showings in favour of their high showings in order to make your case. To do so would be naive and substandard debating to say the least. 😮
Originally posted by yahman
"You’re very wrong. OMACS couldn't’t even scratch Wonder woman who despite her immense strength is’t the most invulnerable of both companies powerhouses."No mate your very wrong !!!!!!! Although you may read some DC titles, you obviously missed the last two editions of Superman. Eradicator was in the words of John Henry Irons; ‘Something came out of the Sky and took Eradicator out with a Single blow, I’m no Doctor, but I think our Friend here (Referring to the Eradicator) is in a coma …. Maybe even dying’
In the last edition, one of the Omacs was throwing Bizarro around, as if he/it were a toy. Superman came in with quite an emphatic punch, and this had little to no effect.
And yet these same OMACS as stated on panel had nothing in their arsenal which could affect Wonder Woman:
Yeah those OMACS are looking real competent. I wonder how these dread OMACS would fare against Iceman LOL.
On top of that in their own titles you have multiple OMACS getting chomped down by Beast Boy. So you have a few high showings in one title versus multiple low showings in multiple titles. We have to average it out somewhere mate. You cant hype up these OMACS due to a sucker punch in a Supes title.
Originally posted by yahman
‘There’s no way the likes of Colossus, Namor and other Marvel powerhouses could stand around and take the full firepower from a Sentinel.’I’ve seen Colossus been hit by a Sentinel Beam, and it had little effect, (It knocked him over). And you cannot for one minute insinuate that Colossus and Namor have the same amount of Durability as Dianna ?
But as aforementioned you have instances where Sentinels have been shown taking on multiple powerhouse superheroes at once in Onslaught saga. Thats far more impressive than suckerpunching a single powerhouse.
But youre saying that Eradicator and Supes have more durability than Diana yet the OMACS couldnt faze her. Theres an inconsistency overall in how theyre written it seems. However outside of one Supes title these Omega Sentinel rip offs aint taking down anyone this side of Generation X.
Originally posted by yahman
“Diana has similar durability to Thor. Only thing that really hurts her are sharp objects...and punches from Superman.”Ion is quite correct in this assumption, and yet a comparison to Thor is’t IMO, realistic. Thor has been floored by being such as Hyde, Wrecker and Thing. We can see from the recent ‘Sacrifice’ arch that Dianna was well capable of withstanding near ‘Blood Lust’ punches from Superman. Theses where recently described (In Action comics) as capable of ‘Splitting the moon in half’
So youre now trying to tell me that you think Wonder woman is more durable than Thor? Well given that youre making such a big deal about an OMAC suckerpunching Erad i guess she must be more durable than him and Supes as well, especially when you factor in her showing against the OMACS. No argument from me in that case. Or could it just be that head on those OMACS dont stand a chance against any powerhouse one on one? Hmmmm. The beast boy incident certainly suggests that. 😆
Originally posted by yahman
“Nothing I've seen of the OMACS tells me that they could take out the Sentinels.”Garbage !!!!!!!!!!!!! What about the near Wonder woman strength, and the near Superman Super Speed. What about the invulnerability to characters such as Bizarro ?
And yet none of that was sufficient to withstand a knife wound to the neck or getting munched down by beast boy two at a time:
Originally posted by yahman
“Erads got sucker punched plain and simple. Head to head, he would have killed that OMAC. He's Superman +1 in all areas plus matter manipulation and energy projection. Still, knocking him stupid is a great strength feat.”True, but these Characters have shown that their bodies can withstand 100’s of tons per square inch. For them to even feel the force of anything, makes it a impressive force.
So how can you agree that the OMAC took out Erad with a sneak attack yet champion that instance like it was a feat achieved through outright power? Utter sewage.
The most powerful characters can be taken out by a sneak attack by those far below their level. For example Sabretooth cant lift more than a few tons yet he managed to take out class 50 rogue with a sneak attack. Your whole case revolves around a suckerpunch. What a shambles. Dear oh dear.🙄
Originally posted by yahman
“bad showings as well against the likes of Beast Boy”IMO Beats boy is more powerful than Beats.
Hes not more powerful than Eradicator though LOL.
Originally posted by yahman
Question: How strong are the current Sentinels ? They are listed as Level 7 on Marvel . com, yet i saw colossus over powering one in a recent House of M issue
Theyre class 100. I wonder what class you have to be to kill a Sentinel with a knife attack?
Originally posted by yahman
How powerful are their weapons, and how durable are they.
Powerful enough to kill a class 100 and durable enough to withstand a knife attack to the neck.
Originally posted by yahman
I saw that cyclops was easily able to disintegrate one recently, and they have been taken down by many of the X-men (Who IMO are far away from the DC powerhouses).
At full power Cyclops beams can leave a class 100 (e.g Colossus as stated on panel in Uncanny X-men during the teams time in Murderworld.) on their death bed so getting disintegrated by that power is hardly a poor showing. Compared to getting taken out by a knife attack and a liquid nitrogen bath id say the current Sentinels are pretty damn tough.
To sum up both the Sentinels and the OMACS have low showings. A Sentinel has been taken out by a small band of street level X-men while an OMAC got knifed.
Sentinels have taken on multiple powerhouses at once while an OMAC took out Erad with a sucker punch.
With all that in mind i know who id pick. 😄