Originally posted by Bardock42
There's something going on lately in the way people view the Muslims.There are either those people that voice their opinions agains tthem, blame and suspect them and just are all ignorant and such.
And the others is people that usually are open minded siding with them....and maybe going to far, abandinign a clear view and just generally protect the muslims and argue against christians....
Did you maybe think similar?
Absolutely. People who are too far-sighted, often end up cutting off their own noses to spite their faces. They want to be so open minded and altruistic, that they end up getting caught off guard. Like me, you know, I can walk past a muslim on the street and not flinch. But, let me sit down in an airport terminal and an arab sits across from me, waiting for the same plane, and I get all white-knuckled. And it doesn't go away until I get off that plane, safely. It's too bad, but I totally support racial profiling...and Arab terrorists are the cause of that position.
Do I stand against the christians? No, not all of them. I stand in opposition to extreme religious intolerance...whatever denomination. I will continue to argue against christian hate rhetoric until it's righted. I started becoming disgusted with their point of view when Clinton was in office. After I left Catholic school, where speaking against god often put me at odds with my teachers and school admins, I was allowed to speak against it socially...without having to worry about my grades suffering. That wasn't really an option in HS. My senior year, I almost failed my MANDITORY religion classes...because I didn't answer the questions the way they wanted me to. I can't tell you how many times I got booted from one of those classes during discussion.
This is a sad sad story. I am a muslim, and this discourages me even more. Terrorists exist in all religions, unfortunately Terrorists claiming to be Muslims are highlighted the most in the media, thus creating a bad image for Muslims everywhere. I am sure you all know that Islam is a peaceful religion which condemns these kind of attrocious acts.
Someone in this thread wanted to know about jihad i think.
The word Jihad does not mean “Holy War”. It means “struggle” or “striving”. The word for war in the Qur’an is “Harb” or “Qital”. Jihad means serious and sincere struggle on the personal as well as on the social level. It is a struggle to do good and to remove injustice, oppression and evil from the society. This struggle should be spiritual as well as social, economic and political. Jihad is to work hard to do right things. In the Qur’an this word is used in its different forms 33 times. It often comes with other Qur’anic concepts such as faith, repentance, righteous deeds and migration.
Jihad is to protect one’s faith and one’s human rights. Jihad is not a war always although it can take the form of war. Islam is the religion of peace, but it does not mean that Islam accepts oppression. Islam teaches that one should do one’s utmost to eliminate tension and conflict. Islam promotes non-violent means to bring change and reform. Actually, Islam urges that one should eliminate evil through peaceful means without the use of force as much as possible. In Islamic history from the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) until now, Muslims most of the time resisted oppression and struggled for liberation in non-violent and peaceful manners.
Islam teaches proper ethics in the situation of war also. The war is permissible in Islam, but only when other peaceful means such as dialogue, negotiations and treaties fail. It is a last resort and should be avoided as much as possible. Its purpose is not to convert people by force, or to colonize people or to acquire land or wealth or for self-glory. Its purpose is basically: defense of life, property, land, honor and freedom for oneself as well as defense of others from injustice and oppression.
The basic rules of war in Islam are:
1. Be strong so that your enemy fear you and should not attack you.
2. Do not begin the hostilities. Work for peace as much as possible.
3. Fight only those who fight, no collective punishment; non-combatants should not be harmed. Weapons of mass destruction should not be used.
4. Stop hostilities as soon as the other party is inclined to peace.
5. Observe the treaties and agreements as long as the enemy observes them.
Allah says very clearly: "Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not do aggression, for Allah loves not the aggressors." (Al-Baqarah: 190)
"The prohibited month, for the prohibited month, and so for all things prohibited, there is the law of equality. If then any one transgresses the prohibition against you, transgress ye likewise against him. But fear Allah, and know that Allah is with those who restrain themselves." (al-Baqarah: 194)
Jihad is not terrorism:
It is to be emphasized that terrorism against the innocent civilians, whether through aggression or suicidal means, is under no circumstances permissible in Islam. Islam encourages the oppressed people to struggle for their liberation and it commands other Muslims to help those who are oppressed and suffering, but Islam does not allow, under any circumstance, terrorism against non-combatants and innocent people. Terrorism is not Jihad, it is Fasad (mischief). It is against the teachings of Islam. There are some people who use their twisted arguments to justify terrorism for their causes, but it has no justification: Allah says:
"When it is said to them: 'Make not mischief on the earth,' they say: 'Why, we only want to correct things.' Indeed they are the mischief doers, but they realize (it) not." (Al-Baqarah: 11-12)
Islam wants to establish a world order where all human beings - Muslims and non-Muslims - can live with justice in peace, harmony and good will. It gives its followers full guidelines to find peace in their personal and social lives, but it also tells them how to extend the good will on the basis of human relations towards others. Muslims worked under these principles for centuries. People of many faiths lived with them and among them. Islamic societies were known for their tolerance, generosity and humanity.
In our modern society where we are living in a global village, where non-Muslims are living with Muslims in the Muslim countries and Muslims are living with non-Muslims in countries where non-Muslims constitute a majority, it is our duty to bring better understanding among ourselves, work for peace and justice for all people and cooperate with each other in matters of goodness and virtue in order to stop all terrorism, aggression and violence against the innocent people. This is our Jihad today."
Originally posted by manny321
If you ever meet a regular Muslim kidrock you would not say such things. Meet one and talk to them, they will not chop your head off. Some of them are my close friends. However i live in a area with a very high minority population outside Toronto.
he wouldnt say a thing, you are right.
but not out of a newfound respect.
i doubt he would flex such balls in his day to day life.
There´s a lot of killing going on in the world, and its all crap.
becoming one with the force is a cool thing be best live your life first.
And Muslims, well theres a bad dog in every pack, christianity too. This is what the tolerant people will say. Fact is the Muslims want the whole world to become Muslim like the Christians did a few centries a go.
If you look at various western countires you will notice the frantic rise in the muslim population. Is it a piecefull invasion?. After all at this growth rate they will become th majority in some western countries in less than 10 years. Well at least it will solve the violence problem once everyone´s become Muslim or been beheaded there won´t be anyone to kill, except maybe internal fighting, or the christian freedom fighters who will then be the terrorists, how ironic.