Sidious vs. Malak

you know the drill...

Yeah and Malak would probably take this.

Which Sidious ? DE Sidious would pretty much destroy Malak.

Any other Sidious will most likely lose against Malak.

I'm talking about ROTS Sidious.

Malak would win after a very hard fight, unless they fight in the Senate Chamber. On the Star Forge, for instance, Malak is immune to all force attacks, so Sidious would be owned.

DE Sidious would pwn him though.

ROTS Sidious - Hmmm. I don't know. I want to say Malak because he has experience and using his powers whereas Sidious (who isn't a sub par Force user for the anti-Sidious noobs out there) has spent the past three decades behind a desk doing paper-work. Malak will win. Now, I don't see him as agile as Yoda. So if they fight in the Senate chamber, it is likely he'll get nailed with a pod. Malak is better in saber skills, but he hasn't expressed any superiority to Palpatine in the Force. So, Malak can kill Sidious up close with ease, and he can kill him from a distance if he's really lucky.

70 percent sure Malak will win.

DE Sidious - Lmao. DE Sidious would crush Yoda or Dooku like tin cans. He, at the very least, is Revan's equal. And Revan beat Malak with ease, when he wasn't even at full power. DE Sidious owns Malak to a level I do not even want to go into detail about. Sorry for the KOTOR fans and Sidious haters out there. Malak's dust in THAT battle.

But ROTS? Sidious loses.

DE Sidious is being exagerated. The largest display of force power he ever demonstrated was the force storms which Bane was able to use against the Army of the Light and devastate them on the slopes of Ruusan. Bane did have a few of the Brotherhood of the Sith helping him, but most of them had followed the insane Kaan. Also, other than Bane and Kaan, the other Sith weren't really noteable in that time.

He isn't. Read the following post. And bear in mind that Malak was easily defeated by Revan, when Revan was not at his complete pinnacle of power. And the following are points that show why DE Sidious is AT THE VERY LEAST Revan's equal.

Perhaps. Perhaps not. Palpatine was never in a situation where he needed to use a Force Storm in a duel. It is very possible that it simply was too powerful to be used in close-quarters combat; or perhaps he simply never required to do it. Make no mistake. All of Palpatine's battles in Dark Empire, he won. He won them without much difficulty, and even as he was dying, he managed to defeat many a Jedi in battle.

Revan is an anomaly. You have only accounts of people who describe his power. You do not, for example, know if Palpatine could've defeated the Echani or not. I do not know, and neither does anyone else on the planet, save for Lucas. Then, you have Malak and Bandon. Either two would have extreme difficulty with ROTS Sidious or Dooku; and Dark Empire Sidious could take and crush Dooku, Yoda, or Mace in combat. So far, there have been no objections to this rather saddening revelations. Even the most anti-Sidious person will sooner or later have to realize that he is FAR beyond any PT Jedi or Sith Lord in his Dark Empire persona.

Revan's powers haven't gone into detail. I could argue, for example, the feat that is known as 'Force Storm' in the KOTOR games is legitimate. And if it is, then I am sorry to say that Revan's Force Storm pales in comparison to Sidious's own. It is not, even, a fraction of the magnitude that DE Sidious could summon. And, also, perhaps Sidious could mold the Force Storm into a smaller varient, yet still very deadly, and use it in melee combat. Who's to say?

You have in-game experience to argue. Which can also be quelled with the simple understanding that in-game battles with KOTOR are video game. When Revan is slashed with a saber in KOTOR, a limb is not removed. Nor does he die instantly. No one does, in fact. It is video-game over-exaggeration, which I agree with. If, in a Star Wars video game, one slash of a saber will kill you, it doesn't seem that fun. But for all intents and purposes, in-game knowledge is nullified instantly when using it in a hypothetical duel situation.

Then, you have accounts from individuals such as Malak, Kreia, and Republic soldiers. There is a very possible chance that they are telling the truth. But as for the Republic soldiers, all they heard were 'rumors'. If I recall, pf those who battled Revan, few lived to tell the tale. So again, it's mainly rumors.

- Kreia. Kreia describes to him as 'the heart of the Force'. Now, she could've been using hyperbole to describe him. Or, she could've just been saying the truth. But also think. Kreia hasn't seen a Ragnos or a Nadd, nor is it likely that she battled Kun. So, perhaps she simply saw the most powerful Force user (Revan), other than herself, and saw the immensity of his power, and assumed he was the closest thing to a 'Force-god' she's seen. But, it might be possible she would've changed her tune, should she have ever gazed upon DE Sidious or Yoda or NJO Luke.

Now. As we have seen, in Dark Empire, Sidious ranks up with the best of them in power. Bane could NOT defeat him. Neither could Malak. Neither could Kreia. And so on and so forth. But, Revan is an anomaly, and all we know as of yet to describe him are second-hand accounts from NPCs.

It is possible that he is stronger.

But judging from what we know now, Revan could NOT defeat Sidious in a duel with a saber or with the Force.

But this is subject to change.

I said Bane did the same thing, not Revan. All that Revan did was force lightning. The game just changed the name to make a more powerful version of it to make it usefull later in the game.

But you said DE Sidious was over-rated. I thought you meant that you did not think Sidious would've won.

I did say DE Sidious is over-rated.

That may be. But anyone short of Exar Kun and NJO Luke, as well as the Ancient Siths, DE Sidious would beat them. Kreia, Malak, Yoda, Dooku, Mace, Qui-Gon, Maul, Grievous, Assaj, Bane, and so on and so forth.

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just wanted to see more replies to the topic

Maybe if it was a decent thread instead of a STEAMING PILE OF CRAP it would get more replies.

Originally posted by OBI-Ninja
Maybe if it was a decent thread instead of a STEAMING PILE OF CRAP it would get more replies.

Are you trying to get banned?

Reported.

Originally posted by Captain REX
Are you trying to get banned?

Reported.

I don't get it? What did he do wrong?

Do you not see the picture?