Originally posted by TwisterGameXDid you not ask for speed assessments? Turbo Man has been said to move at Mach 5. Quick Man has been said to be Turbo Man's superior in speed, so he must move at least that fast or faster. Mega Man has beaten them both multiple times. Therefore, it is logical to argue that Sonic's speed would not overwhelm Mega Man, since he has defeated faster foes.
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As for sizes, the largest robot Mega Man has faced was the colossal Gamma project. Gamma was a robot with indestructible armor. He stood over 130 feet tall. That's over 14 stories!
Bottom line: Sonic would put up a terrific battle, but Mega Man has the ability and durability to outlast him.
Sonic, chaos control Megamans a**. Sonic has fought things WAY harder than Mega Man can dream of.
1. Perfect Chaos. (a water God)
2. Stoppe a space coloney from crashing toward earth.
3.Metal Overlord
4. even a mechanical planet. "The Death Egg"
p.s Sonic fought other robots and beings.
Sonic fought aliens, human robtos Eggmans robots, and many other things.
Originally posted by tragic mulattoI think this was supposed to be a standard ability battle. Last time I checked, Chaos Control was not part of Sonic's innate power set.
Sonic, chaos control Megamans a**. Sonic has fought things WAY harder than Mega Man can dream of.1. Perfect Chaos. (a water God)
2. Stoppe a space coloney from crashing toward earth.
3.Metal Overlord
4. even a mechanical planet. "The Death Egg"p.s Sonic fought other robots and beings.
Sonic fought aliens, human robtos Eggmans robots, and many other things.
1. Sonic was not able to defeat Perfect Chaos until he went Super Sonic, so this really isn't a good argument for regular Sonic vs regular Mega Man.
2. A space colony? Mega Man has dealt with space stations and fortresses.
3. I'm afraid I'm not familiar with the Metal Overlord.
4. The Death Egg was at best moon-sized, if that. Mega Man has destroyed space stations of equal size.
I'm not denying Sonic's achievements. He's a world class hero. But nothing the Blue Blur has done suggests that he would take a decisive victory against the Blue Bomber.
Originally posted by TwisterGameX...but he's never faced a robot with Mega Man's strength, agility, durability, firepower, and human-like mind. And let's face it, a fully charged blast of Mega Man's Mega Buster would vaporize the Blue Blur if it connects.
Megaman X can win but I mean(I forget which sonic we are talking about) but in the comic sonic faces robots more deadlier than Megaman...
Clearly you never heard of Hyper Metal Sonic. It knows everything about Sonic and could move just as fast and Sonic still won. And need I remind you of Sonic Wind? Sonic Wind is Sonic's special attack which would circle around Megaman and kill him. Only way to dodge it is if you are moving fast enough which Megaman can't reach those speeds. Sonic also has lightspeed attack. Sonic will move at lightspeed to defeat Megaman. Megaman has never defeated an opponent moving at the speed of light.
Originally posted by Shadow x 20Metal Sonic is formidable, but it still lacked Mega Man's strength and human-like mind (unless MS goes around lifting fortresses, in which case its still lacking Mega Man's mind).
Clearly you never heard of Hyper Metal Sonic. It knows everything about Sonic and could move just as fast and Sonic still won. And need I remind you of Sonic Wind? Sonic Wind is Sonic's special attack which would circle around Megaman and kill him. Only way to dodge it is if you are moving fast enough which Megaman can't reach those speeds. Sonic also has lightspeed attack. Sonic will move at lightspeed to defeat Megaman. Megaman has never defeated an opponent moving at the speed of light.
Sonic Wind? That requires an emerald, so it isn't really an ability Sonic has on his own.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but the lightspeed dash was not an ability innate to Sonic. It was a powerup in Sonic Adventure 1, was it not? I don't remember whether it existed in Sonic Heroes, or if it was innate in Sonic Adventure 2. That aside, I recall the lightspeed dash needing rings in order to function. Am I thinking of a different move? This means it wouldn't really be a practical attack to use against the Blue Bomber.
If Sonic and Mega Man are allowed access to all of their powerups in this fight, then Sonic would win easily. All he'd have to do is go Super and pound Mega Man into submission. But based on each characters natural abilities, I'm still siding with Mega Man.
In Sonic Heroes Sonic has that move naturally and Blue Torando (Which is Blue Tornado in Sonic Heroes but I call it Sonic Wind sorry for the mix up) and what about the Egg Emperor? Human like mind? Eggman was controlling it. And Metal Sonic does have a human like mind because that was proven in Sonic Heroes because he did all that himself.
Originally posted by Shadow x 20Fair enough. The Blue Tornado isn't an instant kill, and isn't effective against stronger enemies. Its very cool, though.
In Sonic Heroes Sonic has that move naturally and Blue Torando (Which is Blue Tornado in Sonic Heroes but I call it Sonic Wind sorry for the mix up) and what about the Egg Emperor? Human like mind? Eggman was controlling it. And Metal Sonic does have a human like mind because that was proven in Sonic Heroes because he did all that himself.
Remote's aren't really part of the argument here. Mega Man fight's remotes controlled by Dr. Wily quite often.
Metal Sonic...smart? Now, we're getting into interesting territory. Heroes proved that Metal Sonic had free will, but assuming for a moment it has the adaptability and spontaneous decision-making of Mega Man, it still lacks Rock's enormous physical strength, so I'm not sure the comparison is a strong argument in favor of the Blue Blur.
We've covered a lot of ground in this thread. I'm willing to agree to disagree if you are. I'm also willing to cover more points, if you so desire.
Originally posted by Acrosurge
Fair enough. The Blue Tornado isn't an instant kill, and isn't effective against stronger enemies. Its very cool, though.Remote's aren't really part of the argument here. Mega Man fight's remotes controlled by Dr. Wily quite often.
Metal Sonic...smart? Now, we're getting into interesting territory. Heroes proved that Metal Sonic had free will, but assuming for a moment it has the adaptability and spontaneous decision-making of Mega Man, it still lacks Rock's enormous physical strength, so I'm not sure the comparison is a strong argument in favor of the Blue Blur.
We've covered a lot of ground in this thread. I'm willing to agree to disagree if you are. I'm also willing to cover more points, if you so desire.
Originally posted by Shadow x 20It'll be a factor, but not enough for him to trump Mega Man everytime. Rock's official weight is 105 kg
Basically we will need to cover both character's strength and weaknesses. Sonic's blue tornado isn't useless in this fight for Rock weights how much?
See that's why I asked. Well actually Blue Tornado did throw some pretty big robots around but I am not sure on the weight of the robots so at the moment I can't decide on the outcome of the fight. Sonic's fast speeds can best be described by an example of a car. Notice when you are going 80mph and slow down 20 it seems you are going very slow. Your eyes get use to the high speeds like Sonic's does. So people who say Sonic can't control his speed don't know Sonic. Sonic also defeated (tied with at the most) something that can move at Sonic's speed if not faster with a mind like a human (or as the Professor said 'I deisgned his mind to be perfect'馃槈 Shadow the Hedgehog. So Sonic does have some history of fighting something that was created by man with a mind like you describe Metal Sonic didn't have.
Originally posted by Shadow x 20I understand that Sonic's reflexes must be considerable, but you musn't forget that Mega Man also possesses superhuman reflexes that allow him to compete with enemies faster than Sonic (Quickman, Turboman). *shrugs*
See that's why I asked. Well actually Blue Tornado did throw some pretty big robots around but I am not sure on the weight of the robots so at the moment I can't decide on the outcome of the fight. Sonic's fast speeds can best be described by an example of a car. Notice when you are going 80mph and slow down 20 it seems you are going very slow. Your eyes get use to the high speeds like Sonic's does. So people who say Sonic can't control his speed don't know Sonic. Sonic also defeated (tied with at the most) something that can move at Sonic's speed if not faster with a mind like a human (or as the Professor said 'I deisgned his mind to be perfect'馃槈 Shadow the Hedgehog. So Sonic does have some history of fighting something that was created by man with a mind like you describe Metal Sonic didn't have.