Originally posted by Sorgo
Exactly! Would you consider Maul throwing Kenobi into a Generator shaft a "Fair and Square" win? Kenobi was doing fine with Maul the entire fight. Kenobi sooner or later got the upper hand and Maul failed to react quick enough and was killed due to poor reaction time and bad saber skills. He lost and was ultimately defeated.
Yeah, exactly why he gives props to her and her deadliness the ENTIRE BOOK. Because he'd just pwn her.
Proof of this? Oh wait... the single line of hyperbole in the TPM novelisation.
In Cloak of Deception, Qui-Gon has trouble taking out a sniper at medium range. Mace Windu sailed through the battle a Geonosis, landed, and decaptiated Jango Fett, the deadliest man in the galaxy and a far cry from the goon Qui nearly died to. Now, assumig you're right and they were about equal, Mace Windu must have -really- done some training in ten years to become -that- good, huh?
Considering her experience and style and known feats of deadliness, I'd say possibly.
And who has Yoda dueled in a real duel before AOTC? Was he weaker than anyone else just because you didn't see it happen?
Have you ever heard of anyone dying of a coma?
She suffered shock and mental damage in the war and because of the lure of Vaapad. This effectively put her in a catatonic coma. She died in the purge, presumably, because she could not be supported nor could she defend herself.
And Maul still got schooled by TPM Obi-Wan, who would die in a fight against a seasoned Vaapad fighter.
So please, give up.
In a straight up fight? Probably. I wouldn't dismiss the possibility. My thoughts on it come from watching the two fight. Obi has a tighter defense and better reflexes. Qui Gon leaves himself open a lot and has a horrid defense.
Actually, Maul put Qui Gon on the defensive with ONE MOVE. Obi-Wan didn't even give ground despite having Maul counterattack.
And yes, Boba Fett being the deadliest man in the galaxy is hyperbole. So is the idea of TPM Qui-Gon Jinn being as good as Mace Windu. No proof either way. And it's NOT canon, since the novelisation is an author's interpretation of movie events.
And really, if it's so hard for you to believe that Depa can beat your beloved Maul perhaps you should go argue your point to people who buy into your arguments. I'm not one of them.
Originally posted by Ianus
Actually, Maul put Qui Gon on the defensive with ONE MOVE. Obi-Wan didn't even give ground despite having Maul counterattack.And yes, Boba Fett being the deadliest man in the galaxy is hyperbole. So is the idea of TPM Qui-Gon Jinn being as good as Mace Windu. No proof either way. And it's NOT canon, since the novelisation is an author's interpretation of movie events.
And really, if it's so hard for you to believe that Depa can beat your beloved Maul perhaps you should go argue your point to people who buy into your arguments. I'm not one of them.
1) So what? He only broke Jinn's defenses twice and he broke Obi-Wan's four times.
2) Jango you mean, not Boba. Janus, EU isn't cannon. To bad we're in the EU section and therefor EU counts.
3) If you don't like my arguements then why are you talking to me? All you ever tell me is you don't like my arguements. I get it. Tough.
Originally posted by darthsith19
2) Jango you mean, not Boba. Janus, EU isn't cannon. To bad we're in the EU section and therefor EU counts.
Point for Darth Sith, that actually surprises me, no offense, I mean it as a complement. Wait, what point does he have again? This is the EU section? Since when?
Let's see, Depa mastered Maul's incomplete form, had such potential that she was the youngest ever female jedi to be put on the council, was able to challenge Mace and put up a very strong fight and Mace mentions several times in Shatterpoint that she is the deadliest saber dueler in the whole order with the exception of himself and Yoda.