Originally posted by Mider
doesnt flash eventually get tired?
Eventually, yes... But it takes a hell of a long time, and a hell of a long racetrack.
Again, I really don't see Flash avoiding Omega Beams and doing enough damage to hurt Darkseid at the same time, as he's physically at LEAST on par with Superman in every respect. Even using IMP's, it would take a good amount of time to kill DS. Time that Flash doesn't really have, considering the fact that Omega Beams would probably follow if he tried time travel... and wouldn't be destroyed at the end of time once he got there. (why would they? Black Flash only disappeared because he's an aspect of death, which is connected to the current DCU...) Wally needs time to win here, and thanks to the speed of the Omega Beams, even he isn't fast enough.
Darkseid should win a solid majority... 8-9/10.
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Flash can run through the end of time. Time travel. Even outrunning death. Can current Darkseid move about time like the Flash can? What will stop Flash from dropping a few hundred thousand imps on Darkseid before he can fire off his Omega Beams?
Actually, he can. In fact, I think he could do it far better than Flash can.
Yeah, Orion said DS could move through time as swiftly as any God. He's not one to lie either.
Originally posted by Dark-Kenshin
The Omega Beams wouldn't work against the speed force, not that flash would need it.Flash easily
As for Wally, I can't see anything short of a speedforce dump working on DS.
If superman can outpace the oe, why can't flash?? And doesn't the Speedforce protect his hands, so he doesn't break them when hitting things with high durability?? If so, he should have a chance at winning. Outracing the OE and imping DS a few million times should erode DS's uber durability enough for a KO. If written to his optimum, of course.
Originally posted by UniOmni
If superman can outpace the oe, why can't flash?? And doesn't the Speedforce protect his hands, so he doesn't break them when hitting things with high durability?? If so, he should have a chance at winning. Outracing the OE and imping DS a few million times should erode DS's uber durability enough for a KO. If written to his optimum, of course.
That was PIS. DS at full potential shoots an OE that is fine tuned to Flash's molecular structure then encases his body in an indestructable shield. Flash runs all over the earth and through time where he is still followed by the OE. Darkseid wins.
Honestly, are there anywhere the beams CAN'T go? He used Alexander Luthor to shoot them at AM before, so distance really isn't an object. Also, Omega Beams typically avoid other objects, don't they? They wouldn't be nearly as much fun if you could make them run into other stuff. Even phasing through DS probably wouldn't work.
The things move at lightspeed. Basically, Wally would have to constantly working to avoid them. Flash probably COULD put down Darksied, but it would take him a relatively long time to do it, because of Darkseid's durability. If Flash has homing beams following him at lightspeed, I don't see him having enough time to really hurt Darkseid without getting hit. It's a Catch 22 for him. Avoid the beams and forget hitting DS, or hit DS and get hit by the beams. Either way, he ends up losing eventually, which is why I'd give Darkseid a good majority.