Is Superman the ultimate Superhero?

Started by FistOfThe North37 pages
Originally posted by brainchild81
So now it's just a hand to hand fight? 😆 Have you found a contradiction in my matrix comparison yet?

Yea, that's right a hand to hand fight. Know why I wrote that? Because I know you gonna come out with the "Kryptonite" argument. Which is understandable, but lets make the fight happen it without the green rock involved. And since Superman Prime is Superman at his most powerful, can anyone please name an opponent who will defeat Prime in an up & up fight? I wanna see this.

And Brainchild, I said you were trying to equate Spiderman's style of fighting with the Matrix style of fighting. You even said it yourself, quote (paraphrasing): "The Matrix fights are like Spideystyle fighting" but then a few posts later you wrote that in no way, do you think and never wrote/said that the Matrix and Spiderman are similar in any way. You can't get more blatantly contradicting than that, man.

Superman opens up a can on the teen webhead when it comes to who's the more ultimate. Being popular can come second for me, if I was a superhero. Because popularity cannot touch being the Ultimate. being the Ultimate is on a higher algebra. And that goes for any other Superhero anyone else pits against Superman P., too.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Yea, that's right a hand to hand fight. Know why I wrote that? Because I know you gonna come out with the "Kryptonite" argument. Which is understandable, but lets make the fight happen it without the green rock involved. And since Superman Prime is Superman at his most powerful, can anyone please name an opponent who will defeat Prime in an up & up fight? I wanna see this.

And Brainchild, I said you were trying to equate Spiderman's style of fighting with the Matrix style of fighting. You even said it yourself, quote (paraphrasing): "The Matrix fights are like Spideystyle fighting" but then a few posts later you wrote that in no way, do you think and never wrote/said that the Matrix and Spiderman are similar in any way.

You're wrong again dude. Totally wrong. Where did I post anything like that last part? You should quote me directly using the quote button. You won't find me saying that though. I did say "That's like Spideystyle fighting." Then later I said "The Matrix isn't based on Spidey" There is absolutely no contradiction in that.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
You can't get more blatantly contradicting than that, man.
& you can't show your lack of reading comprehension better than that, man😆

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Superman opens up a can on the teen webhead when it comes to who's the more ultimate. Being popular can come second for me, if I was a superhero. Because popularity cannot touch being the Ultimate. being the Ultimate is on a higher algebra. And that goes for any other Superhero anyone else pits against Superman P., too.
1st Spidey's not a teenager anymore dude. Shows how much you know about Spidey right there 🙄 2nd, you assume that I was gonna say kryptonite(You seem to think that's his only weakness. I'm starting to think you know less about Supes than I do). You're 100% wrong though. AGAIN. I'm noticing a trend here. There are characters who can yank the energy right out of Supes(Like S.Surfer), and others who could use Magic(Dr.Strange, Dr. Fate, Thor, honestly Cap. Marvel), others who could telepathically attack him and never get hit by him(Martian Manhunter, Phoenix) Now it's Superman Prime?😆 Isn't S.Prime a powered up future version?(Others have amped up versions--(King Thor, Cosmic Spidey, Surfer w/quantum bands, etc.) also but I wasn't gonna use 'em because I don't feel a need to stack things against Supes. It's seeming more and more like you're trying to power up Supes and give him a boost he wouldn't normally have and make rule ups to further help Supes out. Pathetic.) You have shown beyond a shadow of a doubt that you're a fanboy who's lousy @ debating, doesn't understand what he reads, and will do anything to stack the odds in Supes favor. You are transparent

Originally posted by brainchild81
You're wrong again dude. Totally wrong. Where did I post anything like that last part? You should quote me directly using the quote button. You won't find me saying that though. I did say "That's like Spideystyle fighting." Then later I said "The Matrix isn't based on Spidey" There is absolutely no contradiction in that. & you can't show your lack of reading comprehension better than that, man😆

1st Spidey's not a teenager anymore dude. Shows how much you know about Spidey right there 🙄 2nd, you assume that I was gonna say kryptonite(You seem to think that's his only weakness. I'm starting to think you know less about Supes than I do). You're 100% wrong though. AGAIN. I'm noticing a trend here. There are characters who can yank the energy right out of Supes(Like S.Surfer), and others who could use Magic(Dr.Strange, Dr. Fate, Thor, honestly Cap. Marvel), others who could telepathically attack him and never get hit by him(Martian Manhunter, Phoenix) Now it's Superman Prime?😆 Isn't S.Prime a powered up future version?(Others have amped up versions--(King Thor, Cosmic Spidey, Surfer w/quantum bands, etc.) also but I wasn't gonna use 'em because I don't feel a need to stack things against Supes. It's seeming more and more like you're trying to power up Supes and give him a boost he wouldn't normally have and make rule ups to further help Supes out. Pathetic.) You have shown beyond a shadow of a doubt that you're a fanboy who's lousy @ debating, doesn't understand what he reads, and will do anything to stack the odds in Supes favor. You are transparent

😂

"Ah. How wondrous the Brain of a Child." - the FistOTN/S

I chuckled gleefully thru your post as they're still as amusing as always. Especially the part where you again, blatantly contradicted yourself, once more, by saying yourself, in this same post I'm quoting you on. Lets see.. Quote 1. "Thats like Spideystyle Fighting" Quote 2. "The Matrix isn't based on Spidey." You first make a comparison involving the two then you say how the 2 are based on nothing having to do with each other. That's not called reading comprehension or even a contradiction, not anymore. It's called Down Syndrome. How can you put yourself on the spot like that again, that part disappointed me seriously, I told you to come stronger on the last post and this is what you give me!

And Spiderman's still a teen in some mediums but yes, he's an adult in the comics, BFD. See? I don't not even have to be on his nutsaks to know that one. 🙂 2nd. I only mentioned that you might mention Kryptonite because it was his main weakness, and what better way to expose Supes weakness the most than with Kryptonite. I know magic can disable Superman and more but that wasn't the evading question you won't answer, as you remind me of politicians, only not as bright. You still haven't directly answered my question. Well, you have but with degradations, belittlements and insults as usual, and understandably. Who can beat Superman in a fist fight. Don't be scared or mad, little doggie. Just answer the F question (rep.) State Senator BrainChild. Or don't you understand it? WyTF are you mentioning people who can "yank" or cast magic, telepathy and telekinesis on Superman, was that the question? No.

And I'm not making rules up. In fact I made it easier for other superheros by saying only a fist fight. Lets make it with no heat vision, breath, no flying, just his strength. There, you happy. In fact, lets take all of Superman's powers away except strength and make him regular Superman not Prime. Now tell me. Reread it if you're having the usual comprehensive challenges that plague what I call the "little special people", ok?

I'm not a fanboy, I'm a factboy. And you used the word "transparent" wrong too.

- TFOTNS

Originally posted by brainchild81
You have shown beyond a shadow of a doubt that you're a fanboy who's lousy @ debating, doesn't understand what he reads. You are transparent

I can honestly give two 2 steamy turds, what you think of me personally. As far as I know you're just text on my screen. But If your gonna sit there and lie thru your statements as some pathetic and desperate attempt at trying to "Save Spidey", thats when I become.."unmotivated" which kinda makes me wanna discontinue any type of verbal intercourse with anyone the likes of you, having the incapability of retaining a higher caliber.

This is what you said on the Dec3rd, verbatim (word for word). Quote #1:

"Wow. I don't remember accusing people who love Supes of being fanboys. I don't think I'd ever do that to someone for merely loving a character. It wouldn't be right. Any proof of this?"

(same day) Quote #2:

"I don't go around calling people fanboys just because they like a character that I don't like. That's childish. You were 100% wrong on that too. I'm here to voice my opinion and I'll continue to do so."

But the again you blatantly & completely go against your fanboy references by saying, (Dec8) Quote#3: "You have shown beyond a shadow of a doubt that you're a fanboy who's lousy @ debating."

IMO, you shouldn't be on here voicing your opinion at all, you don't deserve to do so. "With great power, comes great responsibility" as Ben said in the movie. A power you have abused. The power and freedom of speech. So forthwith and henceforth, you have been stripped of all validity and credulity to me. Senator.

Greatest SuperHero?

This is a tough question. I would say he is the most popular. However, if you are really really wanting to know the most powerful superhero of all time.....that is an easy one. GOKU from DragonBallZ. He is hands down the most powerful being EVER. And please don't argue. There is no arguement.

ONE MORE THING.....YOU CAN TAKE ALL OF THE SUPERHERO'S YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT....SUPERMAN, SPIDERMAN, PRIME THIS, PRIME THAT....ETC...AND GOKU WOULD DESTROY THEM ALL AT THE SAME TIME. SERIOUSLY.....NO REALLY......SERIOUSLY...LOL

Re: Greatest SuperHero?

Originally posted by GODOFALL1
This is a tough question. I would say he is the most popular. However, if you are really really wanting to know the most powerful superhero of all time.....that is an easy one. GOKU from DragonBallZ. He is hands down the most powerful being EVER. And please don't argue. There is no arguement.

S. Prime over-outmatches Goku's highest Sayin level. Look it up.

Superman is the Ultimate Superhero.

😎

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
😂

"Ah. How wondrous the Brain of a Child." - the FistOTN/S

I chuckled gleefully thru your post as they're still as amusing as always. Especially the part where you again, blatantly contradicted yourself, once more, by saying yourself, in this same post I'm quoting you on. Lets see.. Quote 1. "Thats like Spideystyle Fighting" Quote 2. "The Matrix isn't based on Spidey." You first make a comparison involving the two then you say how the 2 are based on nothing having to do with each other. That's not called reading comprehension or even a contradiction, not anymore. It's called Down Syndrome.

Seriously, can someone else explain this to him this time? Perhaps one from his side of the "ultimate issue"? I'm not really trying to insult him on this. There is honestly no contradiction.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
And I'm not making rules up. In fact I made it easier for other superheros by saying only a fist fight. Lets make it with no heat vision, breath, no flying, just his strength. There, you happy. In fact, lets take all of Superman's powers away except strength and make him regular Superman not Prime. Now tell me. Reread it if you're having the usual comprehensive challenges that plague what I call the "little special people", ok?

I'm not a fanboy, I'm a factboy. And you used the word "transparent" wrong too.

- TFOTNS

Really?
From dictionary.com trans·par·ent ( P ) Pronunciation Key (trns-pârnt, -pr-)
adj.
Capable of transmitting light so that objects or images can be seen as if there were no intervening material. See Synonyms at clear.
Permeable to electromagnetic radiation of specified frequencies, as to visible light or radio waves.
So fine in texture that it can be seen through; sheer. See Synonyms at airy.

Easily seen through or detected; obvious: transparent lies. That's you fanboy. Transparent fanboyism. Now you can take transparent off the list of words you don't know the meaning of. 🙂You're welcome. Still have to learn what a contradiction is though. How 'bout let Supes have all his powers @ his disposal and take on others w/their powers @ their disposal? No need for conditions. That makes more sense doesn't it?

GodofAll, read the thread. It doesn't state who's the most powerful. It asks, more or less, who represents the epitomy of the ultimate superhero.

Brainchild and FistoftheNorth, still going at it I see. bangin

You two haven't exhausted each other yet? 😛

Originally posted by BobbyD
GodofAll, read the thread. It doesn't state who's the most powerful. It asks, more or less, who represents the epitomy of the ultimate superhero.
It's vague though. FON seems to have turned it to an @ss kicking contest.
Originally posted by BobbyD
Brainchild and FistoftheNorth, still going at it I see. bangin

You two haven't exhausted each other yet? 😛

😆 Not yet. I just voice my opinion and try to edify. Just trying to explain to FON what a few words mean.

FON, that's a big no-no turning this into a vs thread. Is Brainchild telling the truth?

Originally posted by FistOfThe North

To me, the ultimate superhero should be the most powerful as well.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
This statement may scream of fanboyism to you skeptics, but I'll have to honestly say, that as I write this post, no superhero in any comic can defeat Superman in a fight. In and out of the DC realm.

To me, the Ultimate Superhero is the mightiest being. And that's Superman.

You can't be the Ultimate Superhero if your not the mightiest. Popular or not. And I know Thor comes up but it shouldn't cause he's only the mighty Thor while Supes is the mightiest.

Mighty - Having or showing great power, skill, strength, or force: a mighty orator; a mighty blow.

Most Superheroes are mighty. But being the mightiest means to be mighty to an extreme degree. That's Ultimate. Just like Superman is.

Originally posted by brainchild81
It's vague though. FON seems to have turned it to an @ss kicking contest.😆 Not yet. I just voice my opinion and try to edify. Just trying to explain to FON what a few words mean.

I still didn't see how transparency or has to do with your claim of my fanboyism, but anyway.

lol, you're a fraud, seriously dude. Admit it. Here Ill help you with that.

So you do "go around calling people fanboys just because they like a character that you don't like."

So you "have accused people who love Supes of being fanboys" Even after saying "I don't think I'd ever do that to someone for merely loving a character" cause "It wouldn't be right." Now what's inside quotes are verbatim (word for word) that you claimed you didn't or don't do. lol, f liar.

This may seemed like I turned into a vS character beef but I guess my trying to compare the might of Superman with those of others may have digressed into what may have seem like battles. If that's how it was taken, fair enough and understandable. It certainly wasn't the intention.

Brainchild, to you Spiderman is the Ultimate Superhero. I know that by you writing on Nov4, Quote: "There was a special about this on Bravo. Spidey won. He's the ultimate." And by how you much you enjoy P.P.

And this is the opinion of both Bravo & yours I'm assuming. Or if your saying Spiderman's the ultimate because Bravo said so. I duno. But so far on this post, you've been practically alone on this notion, as far as this thread goes.

And I say Superman is indeed the Ultimate Superhero and I already explained why, as well as a handful of other posters have. Where do we go from there? It's been a month and you arduously fail to see. But to each his own, I guess.

I know.

The Majority rules. But check it, not due to popularity, but by the outnumbering amount of posters against your "Spiderman as the Ultimate" opinion, on here who truly know that Superman is the Ultimate Superhero.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I still didn't see how transparency or has to do with your claim of my fanboyism, but anyway.

lol, you're a fraud, seriously dude. Admit it. Here Ill help you with that.

So you do "go around calling people fanboys just because they like a character that you don't like."

So you "have accused people who love Supes of being fanboys" Even after saying "I don't think I'd ever do that to someone for merely loving a character" cause "It wouldn't be right." Now what's inside quotes are verbatim (word for word) that you claimed you didn't or don't do. lol, f liar.

You don't get it. I don't call people fanboys merely for liking a character I don't. It is childish to do that and it wouldn't be right, you on the other hand are acting like a fanboy. If you just loved him I wouldn't have called you one. Look @ some of your posts. That's why I called you one. Seriously, you should do a lil' self-reflection. Have you any proof of me calling someone a fanboy merely for liking another character?(the answer is likely no) If not, renounce your accusation. There are many who love Supes, and few who I've called a fanboy(That punches a giant hole in your bulls*it doesn't it?). I promise you they were acting like fanboys when I called them on it. I save that word for people like you and jedimasterluke. While I don't think you're as bad as JMLuke, you've said some pretty fanboyish shit dude. How many people here have I even called fanboys? You tend to say alot about me w/no evidence. It's getting tiresome. Even people on your side of the issue don't agree w/some of the ridiculous shit you post.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Have you any proof of me calling someone a fanboy merely for liking another character?(the answer is likely no) If not, renounce your accusation.

There are many who love Supes, and few who I've called a fanboy(That punches a giant hole in your bulls*it doesn't it?). I promise you they were acting like fanboys when I called them on it. I save that word for people like you

you've said some pretty fanboyish shit dude.

How many people here have I even called fanboys? You tend to say alot about me w/no evidence.

It's getting tiresome.

Even people on your side of the issue don't agree w/some of the ridiculous shit you post.

Have I any proof? (the answer is definitely yes) Me. I'm no F. fanboy, you wish dude. I renounce nothing, fall back.

Your gonna have some shitty ass hands cause you hold an obvious and unreasonable amount of animosity towards opposing choices that you consider to be competition. You've gotten mad offensive to me and others who don’t hail complete and utter devotion to the idea of Spiderman being the Ultimate superhero. And all you've been doing is looking for every opportunity to not answer questions directly and insult others like me whose opinions differ from yours.

Even though you probably will not answer this question at all, and if you do, it won't be directly, I'll still ask it. Can you tell me how I've been a fanboy. I'm analytical so answer it carefully so as to not get seen up real hard this time again, cause you're right about 1 thing, this shit is getting tiresome. So answer, with no digressions and no disintegrations.

If you will.

I tend to say alot about you with no evidence, LMAO, are you F. serious. I reference your statements precisely in quotes in verbatim (word for word) testimony also including the exact dates that I add as reference just incase you wanna look it up. I use your actual literal word down to the letter, WTF are you talking about no evidence. It's all I use. Evidence in the form of actual textual verbatim statements directly from your posts. It's your shit. These are your words, what do you mean I say alot with no evidence? Wow, I can't believe you just accused me of speculating shit, lol. Now you're just F. desperate. 😆

And oh, another question for you that you won't answer. Can you tell me who has gone against my saying that Superman is the Ultimate Superhero besides yourself?

- North

YOU CAN'T BE THE ULTIMATE......IF YOU HAVE WEAKNESSES. GOKU HAS NO WEAKNESSES. AND FIST OF THE NORTHSTAR....NO...I DON'T THINK SO BUD. LOOK UP WHAT? SOMETHING SOMEONE MADE UP? IM SORRY BUDDY. SUPERMAN IS SECOND BEST TO GOKU. HE'S THE ONLY SUPER HERO THAT LITERALLY GETS TOUGHER AND STRONGER THE LONGER HE FIGHTS. SUPERMAN WORE OUT AGAINST DOOMSDAY. HE WAS ALSO KILLED. YOU THINK GOKU WOULDN'T HAVE TAKEN CARE OF DOOMSDAY JUST LIKE THAT(SNAPPING FINGERS) DON'T GET ME WRONG...I LOVE SUPERMAN. HE IS MY FAVORITE....BUT, THIS IS JUST HOW IT IS MAN. SUPERMAN PRIME....THAT JUST SOUNDS GAY.

Originally posted by GODOFALL1
AND FIST OF THE NORTHSTAR....NO...I DON'T THINK SO BUD. LOOK UP WHAT? SOMETHING SOMEONE MADE UP?

IM SORRY BUDDY. SUPERMAN IS SECOND BEST TO GOKU. HE'S THE ONLY SUPER HERO THAT LITERALLY GETS TOUGHER AND STRONGER THE LONGER HE FIGHTS.

SUPERMAN WORE OUT AGAINST DOOMSDAY. HE WAS ALSO KILLED. YOU THINK GOKU WOULDN'T HAVE TAKEN CARE OF DOOMSDAY JUST LIKE THAT(SNAPPING FINGERS) DON'T GET ME WRONG...I LOVE SUPERMAN. HE IS MY FAVORITE....BUT, THIS IS JUST HOW IT IS MAN. SUPERMAN PRIME....THAT JUST SOUNDS GAY.

Hu? Wha,,? lolol wt hell are you speaking of you strumpet? Look what up? I was talking to Brainchild telling him to "look up" the poignant evidence I post that I've dated for him incase he wants to look it up.

And Superman being the best to Goku? You know what? I respect Goku like so much. He's basically like my top 3 fav characters, but you know what, Superman will have to top him IMO just because Goku is basically a Japanese rip-off of Superman. I basically love the in depth stories, I guess and he is the main character but that how I feel about that. If Superman didn't exist, Goku wouldn't exist.

As far as seeing Goku's energy replenishing the more he get his arse kicked, thats suspect for you to say that unless you're talking about him getting mad and powering up out of no where into a higher sayin level. I've seen Goku get uber stomped to the point of bloodiness.

And Doomsday got broken just as badly as Superman did cause Doomsday died too. (Superman vS Doomsday top 5 best fight in history, to me.)

Superman Prime is;t gay, man . Don't ever say that again. 😠
Pitting Prime against goku would be hysterically and ridiculously way out of sync. Prime is a God. Goku can't maintain. (against Prime) But he still rawks, hehe. 😄

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