Originally posted by Great Vengeance
I respect your opinion but I dont see how Taris was poorly written or thin. It was easily the largest and deepest of the worlds in both games, It should of been the standard for all the planets but instead things started going downhill after they pulled off that magnificent first chapter in your kotor experience.
Mostly the Outcasts, many of their lines bug me. Like where they ***** about how they have no weapons and are doomed, despite the fact that they've been living there for generations. Or the entire concep, it wasn't original really, it was a typical dystopian city, with the rich having all of the technology and luxury, the poor living in slums with gang wars, and the criminal outcasts, it's concept is exactly the same as Paradigm city from Big O.
Also the lack of motivation, and how you could get no DS points from robbing someones apartment really bugged me.
Re: Taris was infinetly greater (>>>...~) than the Peragus Mining Facility
Originally posted by Ganner Rhysode
KotOR >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KotOR IINow, KotOR II wasn't a bad game at all, but it certainly did NOT match up to KotOR... The soundtrack was good, but not nearly as epic or intense, brilliant, and amazing as KotOR's, the character development was way underdone and no where near as impressive as KotOR's, and the KotOR II sidequests were far and inbetween, and the few sidequests they did offer where very underdeveloped, and no where near as interesting, involving, or as fun as the ones in KotOR.
Add to that that the introduction world (Peragus) was a pain. The story behind it was kind of cool, but it was really, like most of the game, underdone, and there was a lot of stuff that they could have filled the gap with, and very much so a large contrast to Taris, which again, in my opinion, was very well done and had a lot going on, and was a very fun planet.
And, as all KotOR II bashing threads end up doing, the ending was completely horrible. Once you get to the Jedi Enclave, everything else is rushed and it literally forces you through the rest of the game, with no choice on your part for as to what you do, and the ending, in addition to being rushed, had little to no substance and virtually no closure, although some could be obtained from talking to the final boss before killing her.
I just pray the KotOR II Restoration Project and the M4-78 side project goes well and does to this game what I hope it can do, and can make it at least stand up to KotOR, and be otherwise a much more enjoyable experience.
Originally posted by Ianus
I think it's highly subjective. Personally, I prefer replaying KOTOR II way over one. Peragus was more fun to me than slogging around for four hours to get off of boring Taris just to spend two hours on Dantooine and then get to go to a few planets. Woo hoo. Way too much time to waste doing the same things each play-thru.The battle system was better in II. KOTOR I had horrible AI (Especially on the PC) and there was little unique feats for characters or things such as item customization or a wide selection of feats.
Aesthetically, both are lacking. But I give KOTOR II credit for not screwing up on jedi robes, and for having even better minigames.
The endings? Both sucked IMO. I like long, well done endings that make me feel as though I've earned them. KOTOR I shows me a short clip. KOTOR II has missing info and a shorter clip. Both annoyed me to no end.
Originally posted by Dirk Jade
I liked how Taris had sooo much stuff to do that it was hard to remember doing it all. but i didnt like the fact that you could pretty much be 80%-90% lightside/darkside by the end of it. i think that once you get a certain amount of lightside/darkside points it should be harder to get more. like on dantoine Lying to the Jedi Council gave you 2 darkside points but killing Dia gave you 1... i think that the acts of cruelty/mercy should be scaled some how... i mean murder is worse than lying is it not? also i think the endscenes were realy bad on both games imo.
and in TSL The ebon Hawk crashes and gets destroyed right? so how then does it pick you up after you kill Darth Traya? And what the hell got accomplished with the remote on malachore V?
Originally posted by Ganner Rhysode
Xeno means species, so xenocide, for example, would mean the destruction of a species, and a xenophobic man would be one who fears other species.He's the guy on the North part of Taris who speaks out against aliens and says you must rally together and remove them, blah blah.
No, Xeno means stranger, that's why Xenomorph makes sense, Strange Form, not Species Form.
Originally posted by Ganner Rhysode
Then what would you call xenocide? I've seen it used in context in multiple published novels, referring to the destruction of an alien species...