DS vs. PSP

Originally posted by BlackMamBA
Why u keep calling it Dc when its the Ds.And its not all about the power and graphics its more about gameplay anbd battery life.

Sorry, mistake on the dc, mis-typed. I would agree with you about the gameplay factor about console and Pc games, but when it comes to handheld systems, your gameplay is limited to the power it has. PsP has far more power which leads me to believe that it's games will display new and original gameplay that handheld systems have not seen. Nintendo games in the gameplay department always stay the same with slight elaboration on it. The PsP Also seems to be far more conviieneant. You can also watch movies on it. This is just an added bonus. I think ounce the PsP struggles through the hurdle of the nintendo fan base, it will then dominate the handheld world.

Originally posted by shadow225588
first off the PSP has a rechargable battrie ok its lasts about rougly 10 hours for gaming and only 2 hours for movies and it taks about rougly 2 hours to charge so my point is that if you want to watch a long movie like LOTR your looking at having to take a two hour break. So thats just crap.

DS-holiday 2004
PSP-spring 2004

Plus why would you pay 300$ for something that is just junk how many kids will say mom i want that for my birthday etc. and there mom will be thats way too much but ill buy the DS for only 150$

think about it

You seriously dont believe people will pay the price for this? First off it isnt directed twords young kids. It is for the 18-35 demographic. People with paying jobs. Also of course people will pay 300$ for somthing like this. It is new, it will be hyped and it is from sony, a company with the most renowned track record in video games. Of course people will pay 300$. Or atleast trade games in to get the price down. Also about the fact on watching movies for only two hours, i'm sure it wil come with a power adapter that you can plug into the wall or a car cig lighter.

If the game library is at all promising, and it delivers on all of the features it promises, I'd drop the cash for one... of course, I also bought a 3DO way back in the day.

yeah but the 3do wasnt that bad, and could have been the Ps with better game developing. that thing was horribly expensive. I remember i paid $350 for mine, and this was back in the day like you said.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
Sorry, mistake on the dc, mis-typed. I would agree with you about the gameplay factor about console and Pc games, but when it comes to handheld systems, your gameplay is limited to the power it has. PsP has far more power which leads me to believe that it's games will display new and original gameplay that handheld systems have not seen. Nintendo games in the gameplay department always stay the same with slight elaboration on it. The PsP Also seems to be far more conviieneant. You can also watch movies on it. This is just an added bonus. I think ounce the PsP struggles through the hurdle of the nintendo fan base, it will then dominate the handheld world.

yeah bcause theres nothing else out there. ngage?. yeah failure, failure at birth and failure at conception. that 's it though no other competition.

Theres nothing out there becuz Nintendo crushed all the other Companys who tried lik Sega's Game Gear and remember the Neo Pocket?Thats why there isnt anthing else except for the N gage which is crap.

It's rather funny watching you fanboys argue.

I've been a supporter of both sides for a very long time. However, the bare facts tell me the DS will win out.

Graphics: The DS graphics are somewhere in between the N64 and the GameCube. The PSP graphics are somewhere in between the PSX and the PS2. N64 vs. PSX: N64, by just a bit. GCN vs. PS2: GCN, and this can be seen just by the same game from both systems being run alongside one another. Advantage: Nintendo DS.

Media: the DS uses cartridges, a la GameBoy (but half the size of the GBA carts). The PSP uses "UMDs" (Universal Media Discs) which apparently hold 14 times the memory of the DS. Also, the UMDs support movies. While this looks good at first, a bit of thought reveals something a bit important: Why should we care? You're not gonna be able to watch movies very well on the tiny PSP screen, and any movies worth watching will more likely be seen on your TV using a DVD player, as you can, well, actually see movies there. Plus, cartridges, though they don't hold as much memory, are the staple of on-the-road gaming for an obvious reason: no load times. Cartridge media is accessed instantaneously, while discs take time to load (and a very long time at points, as PlayStation players have seen). Advantage: Nintendo DS.

Games: A very difficult point. The PSP has Metal Gear, Spider-Man, and Tony Hawk, along with Devil May Cry (Also, possibly, the Final Fantasy series). The DS has Zelda, Metroid, Mario, and WarioWare. Both have established series and great new games. Advantage: fairly even.

Design: Well, we do know that the DS is going to have a big makeover (and name change) so it's really, foolish to comment on DS design as of yet. Now for the PSP: That's a BIG screen for a portable system. Just about the right size to get the crap totally scratched out of it. alls I'm saying. Advantage: Unknown for now. Possible, though unlikely, that Nintendo will design a worse one than the PSP.

Release: Ah, the all important release... DS: this holiday season. PSP: NEXT SPRING! Lemme tell you somethin', guys: That does NOT help Sony. Sorry. However, I doubt Nintendo will get the redone DS out by November (as the say), so I think the launches will be about equal. Advantage: Unknown, but probably none.

Price: DS: probably around $150, probably just a BIT under. PSP: from the way spokespeople dance around the question, it'll probably be MUCH higher. And despite the fact that disc media costs less to make than cart media, don't even START to think Sony will sell their games for a lower price. Advantage: Nintendo DS.

Verdict: The DS will win out, simply because Nintendo is thinking intelligently, and relying on gameplay instead of hype and stats-on-paper.

IM not being a fanboy of anything im jus saying whats right jus lik u and i agreed wit u wit most of things u say.But the ds already came out wit a new name and new design right?

well stats on paper is what got sony where it is today, they are releasing the PsP in the very same fashion as the Psx against the N64 and saturn, and 3do Which dominate the PSx with ability and power. Sony hyped it up though, and challenged everyone head on promising to offer somthing new to the table, and though for the first three years all we got from sony was shit, they eventually delivered and never stopped after they started.

I believe as long as they can disrupt the loyal nintendo fans for a year, people will realize that Sony is not only going to improve on the PsP, what it offeres is far greater than than experiencing nintendo 64 type games all over again.

You seem to think, Remorse, that N64-style graphics means N64-style games. But we've already seen that most DS games are going to be games like nothing we've played before. N64 is a thing of the past.

And as for the DS re-design and -naming, we only know that its undergoing the procedure, not what it will look like or be called.

psp all the way.

Im getting both but I really lik the Ds becuz of the innovated design.

Man the PsP will also offer free internet browsing using the wireless reciever whenever you are near an online hotspot. There is also a talkback feature where you can talk into the microphone and it will translate your sentence into another language for you. I mean think about this you can not only play and talk to people online at the same time, but also have your words translated for someone else in another language so you can understand each other. The multiplayer capabilites will allow up to 16 people. I dont think sony is investing a quick buck here,but honestly trying to be innovative in the world of handheld gameplay, an innovation we havent seen since the origin, with gameboy.

pertaining to the Ds design and name. Well the design cannot be much different, because it is going to have to be two split screens. I mean why would you want to play a game with two small screens, when you can play a game with a screen the same size of the two split screens. The lens and covering of the PsP will be scratch resistant. The convieniance will be much greater in the way of sony. ok your right about the 64 graphics, that doesnt mean we will get N-g4 games, but they wont be much different in graphics or gameplay. The graphics system for PsP is still overpowering when compared to the Ds. now all that remains is the question of gameplay for the PSP, and sony has proven to know what gameplay is and how to deliver on it.

At the end of the day - this is all good for us.

It's about time we had some competition going on in the handheld market.

It'll make each company try and out-do each other, something that always benefits the customer in terms of value for money.

Nintendos monopoly is getting ridiculous - have you seen those NES classic games priced at £19.99 each? We're talking about games about twenty years old, with about four levels in some of them. Most games for the GBA still cost the better end of £30. Thats bad.

Hopefully the PSP and DS will cause each other to go into price-war frenzy, and we'll see the prices dropping and quality rising, just like what happens to the console wars.

Originally posted by ragesRemorse
Man the PsP will also offer free internet browsing using the wireless reciever whenever you are near an online hotspot. There is also a talkback feature where you can talk into the microphone and it will translate your sentence into another language for you. I mean think about this you can not only play and talk to people online at the same time, but also have your words translated for someone else in another language so you can understand each other. The multiplayer capabilites will allow up to 16 people. I dont think sony is investing a quick buck here,but honestly trying to be innovative in the world of handheld gameplay, an innovation we havent seen since the origin, with gameboy.

pertaining to the Ds design and name. Well the design cannot be much different, because it is going to have to be two split screens. I mean why would you want to play a game with two small screens, when you can play a game with a screen the same size of the two split screens. The lens and covering of the PsP will be scratch resistant. The convieniance will be much greater in the way of sony. ok your right about the 64 graphics, that doesnt mean we will get N-g4 games, but they wont be much different in graphics or gameplay. The graphics system for PsP is still overpowering when compared to the Ds. now all that remains is the question of gameplay for the PSP, and sony has proven to know what gameplay is and how to deliver on it.

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BlackMamBA, if you are going to argue, please try to do so coherently.

But yes, I believe MamBA has a point. The DS will feature the same online connectivity features as the PSP. And yes, developers are much more enthusiastic about the DS than the PSP.

The current design of the DS recalls the old Game&Watch handhelds from many years back. The design will change completely for the new generation. Believe it or not, there are several different ways to arrage the two screens.

As for the PSP's larve, vulnerable screen: So it's scratch resistant. This is a major argument point? I'm sorry, but my old pair of glasses were scratch resistant, and I could barely see through them for the scratches.

No that is just why you take care of your things. It is a laser cut polypholene plastic, scratch resistant screen on a screen. so yes it wil have it's protection. as for the talkback feature ,no, that is a feature to be added to the PsP pick up some gamicone magazines from time to time mamba. Of course i know that the bottom screen is going to be touch screen, so what, big whoop. That doesnt mean it will be utilized right. I would hope so,but doubt it.

Well GK about the many posable different posisition's i did not know about that. that is an interesting feature. I also diddnt know that ds would also have the same online capabilities. I may be swayed on my decesion, but i still think sony will pull it off. Not that i am going to buy one, but truthfully if i did i must confess it would a Ds because it would be cheaper. However, I dont want eigther one. I already devote enough hours a week to console games.

Whatever u say. 🙄

Which next-generation hand-held console are you most looking forward to, or which do you think you would purchase first?