Originally posted by roughrider
As for that scan of DD thowing the shield, knocking out Hercules, please. PIS.
* no, i think not... DD did not actually throw the shield, he uses his billy-club to hold the shield, still spinning because of the force, letting it go with the same amount of the force thrown, hitting a wall and ricocheted to Hercules... and also using Cap's own force of leaping over him, grabs him and throws him away... clearly, that's NOT impossible...
* another impressive move by DD... 😉
Originally posted by peejayd
* no, i think not... DD did not actually throw the shield, he uses his billy-club to hold the shield, still spinning because of the force, letting it go with the same amount of the force thrown, hitting a wall and ricocheted to Hercules... and also using Cap's own force of leaping over him, grabs him and throws him away... clearly, that's NOT impossible...* another impressive move by DD... 😉
Well, that's the explanation, then! 😉
Originally posted by roughrider
Captain America isn't superhuman - the serum has just pushed him to the outer limits of human possibility for strength, agility, reaction time & reflexes etc. He can defeat anyone at h2h - Batman sensed that after a few moves. As for that scan of DD thowing the shield, knocking out Hercules, please. PIS.
Back on topic: a very long and brutal fight; to win, Daredevil needs condittions to favour his enhanced senses, and that setting isn't here. Red got that boxer's heart, but in the end, I have to give it to the Batman.
DD did not knock Herc out. According to my scene, i think it's quite even.
I posted these pictures in another thread. This thread should be merged. Its hard to see who the clear winner is in H2H combat and the difference in strength, (if any) isn't probably going to matter since both fighters have fought guys who are stronger.
The battle appears to be decided when you point out that one of them has an easily exploitable weakness. DD gets punked when someone uses a supersonic emitter. I'm pretty sure Batman's got one handy in his Bat-belt at all times. How would Batman know that? Would he pick it up during a fight? I think the Batman/DD crossover explained that one. So here's a series of pictures that illustrate their comparable fighting skills to a stalemate, but more importantly, that Batman figures out DD relies on his sense of hearing.
I'm a DD fan since Miller's run, but I've seen DD punked by sonic emitters pretty easily. He doesn't fare too well.
Originally posted by jrodslam
No youre wrong. Batman lifts around 00. Daredevil lifts around 600-700.Can you tell me when Batman ever beat Captain America?
00??? r u kidding me? what the hell do u have against batman?....hater..n show me evidence that dd can lift 600-700, cuz i heard he can only do 550, and batman could actually do 600, i dont think 1000...or from what ive heard....
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
The battle appears to be decided when you point out that one of them has an easily exploitable weakness. DD gets punked when someone uses a supersonic emitter. I'm pretty sure Batman's got one handy in his Bat-belt at all times. How would Batman know that? Would he pick it up during a fight? I think the Batman/DD crossover explained that one. So here's a series of pictures that illustrate their comparable fighting skills to a stalemate, but more importantly, that Batman figures out DD relies on his sense of hearing.
Nice scans by the way. However ill say this. It was clear that Batman didint pick up DD's weakness in the fight. After spending some time with him obviously he did. If he noticed it in the fight, why not just pull the sonic out then?
I still say stalemate.
Originally posted by braz
00??? r u kidding me? what the hell do u have against batman?....hater..n show me evidence that dd can lift 600-700, cuz i heard he can only do 550, and batman could actually do 600, i dont think 1000...or from what ive heard....
Lol. Sorry man. I didnt notice i made a mistake. You should know im not that ignorant. I meant to say 800 in that post. I know that DD lifts about 100lbs or so less than Batman. I heard it was in the 600-700lb range. Ill try to get some hard core proof this week. Hopefully.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Nice scans by the way. However ill say this. It was clear that Batman didint pick up DD's weakness in the fight. After spending some time with him obviously he did. If he noticed it in the fight, why not just pull the sonic out then?I still say stalemate.
Yeah stalemate, DD ability to "predict" movements will help him here.
Originally posted by joesha28
Daredevil did not learn more arts than Cap, Logan even Batman but his execution of styles n movement are damn good, very unique!
Who knows that for sure? I dont think noone does. This is from both Marvel.com and Marvel Directory.com
Captain America - Rated as 7
Marvel.com - Mastered a number of fighting forms, including American style boxing and Judo.
Marvel directory.com - Mastered the martial art of American style boxing and Judo.
Daredevil - Rated as 5? BS
Marvel.com - Studied various Asian martial arts techniques and American boxing.
Marvel directory.com - Blend of ninjitsu, judo and American style boxing.
Wolverine - Rated as 7
Marvel.com - Says nothig about his fighting skills at all. Just gives a 7.
Marvel directory.com - Extensive training as a samurai and is a master of multiple forms of martial arts.
Nick Fury - Rated as 6? BS too.
Marvel.com - Unarmed combat expert. Black belt in Tae kwan do and brown belt in jiu jitsu.
Marvel directory.com - Seasoned unarmed combat expert. Black belt in Tae kwan do and brown belt in jiu jitsu.
From bios they all seem about even to me. Who is to say Daredevil didnt learn more arts than Cap or Logan?
Originally posted by jrodslamIt wasn't a lot of time. In fact, that scene on the rooftops occurs right after the fight. But you do have a point. Oh, and since apparently the thread op said no weapons, I'd have to say its a stalemate. DD does have his radar sense, but Batman is pretty crafty. I mean,... the way Bats got DD to show off so he could tag him with a jumpkick was just great.
Nice scans by the way. However ill say this. It was clear that Batman didint pick up DD's weakness in the fight. After spending some time with him obviously he did. If he noticed it in the fight, why not just pull the sonic out then?I still say stalemate.