Originally posted by KingDubya
Why would he lose inside? We still have no explanation for Dante's victory from you.
Neo is still able to bleed in side the Matrix (a good slash from Dante's sword will end the fight), he's nothing Dante hasn't when up agaist before, and Dante has fought far more powerful beings than Neo. Why whould he not lose inside the Matrix? 🙂
Neo inside the Matrix
Dante fires a barrage of bullets at Neo which are easily stopped mid air by Neo. Dante knows bullets are no use here so he resorts to his trusty sword. "I know kung-fu" Neo smartly says. Dante takes several swings at Neo, which of course he dodges with style, then Neo grabs Dante by the chest and throws him at the wall while taking Dante's sword too. Neo holds the sword as if it was a feather. All Dante has left is his trusty fists. Only option he has is a front on attack, Dante charges towards Neo and with a simple swipe Neo removes Dantes head off altogether.
Neo is still able to bleed in side the Matrix
Plus he only bled when he stopped a sword with his bare hands!!
Originally posted by Zen2nd
Neo inside the MatrixDante fires a barrage of bullets at Neo which are easily stopped mid air by Neo. Dante knows bullets are no use here so he resorts to his trusty sword. "I know kung-fu" Neo smartly says. Dante takes several swings at Neo, which of course he dodges with style, then Neo grabs Dante by the chest and throws him at the wall while taking Dante's sword too. Neo holds the sword as if it was a feather. All Dante has left is his trusty fists. Only option he has is a front on attack, Dante charges towards Neo and with a simple swipe Neo removes Dantes head off altogether.
Plus he only bled when he stopped a sword with his bare hands!!
Neo is still able to bleed in side the Matrix (a good slash from Dante's sword will end the fight), he's nothing Dante hasn't when up agaist before, and Dante has fought far more powerful beings than Neo. Why whould he not lose inside the Matrix? I forgot Dante could just finish the fight faster by shooting him also, thanks! 😄
I forgot Dante could just finish the fight faster by shooting him also, thanks!
Have you not even seen the Matrix?? Neo can stop bullets mid air no problem!
a good slash from Dante's sword will end the fight),
But he won't be able to get a good slash! You forget the fact that Neo can do anything he wants in the Matrix. If Neo wanted he could get a nuke and blow it up infront of Dante and out run the blast!
he's nothing Dante hasn't when up agaist before, and Dante has fought far more powerful beings than Neo
Thats when Dante is fighting in the real world! In the Matrix Dante hasn't a chance!
Originally posted by Zen2nd
Have you not even seen the Matrix?? Neo can stop bullets mid air no problem!But he won't be able to get a good slash! You forget the fact that Neo can do anything he wants in the Matrix. If Neo wanted he could get a nuke and blow it up infront of Dante and out run the blast!
Thats when Dante is fighting in the real world! In the Matrix Dante hasn't a chance!
I've seen all three Matrix movies.🙂 Neo stop bullets in mid air one time. Neo can't do any thing the Matrix. Has he ever created a nuke with his power? Like I said above, Dante could beat him by slashing him up or blasting him with bullets (or using his demon energy on both his sword or bullets). 🙄
Neo stop bullets in mid air one time.
Has he ever created a nuke with his power?
Swords are totally useless. Neo can stop them with his bare hands!
Your very ignorant to the fact that Neo would beat Dante in the Matrix, the facts are stacked against you.
Originally posted by Zen2nd
Twice actually. Plus he only gets fired at twice! Its not a on and off power when he can stop bullets, he can do it all the time!I never said Neo would create a nuke I said he would get one.
Swords are totally useless. Neo can stop them with his bare hands!
Your very ignorant to the fact that Neo would beat Dante in the Matrix, the facts are stacked against you.
Your the one that's being very ignorant, Neo doesn't stand a chance and you havn't proven that he does. 😕 I've seen all three Matrix movies. Neo stop bullets, but he rarely did that, he mostly dodges. Neo can't create nukes (somthing you did say) with his own power. Has he ever created a nuke with his power? Like I said above, Dante could beat him by slashing him up or blasting him with bullets (or using his demon energy on both his sword or bullets). Swords are useless against him, but he has trouble fighting off people in h2h combat? 😕 Dante is packing way more power than Neo inside or outside the Matrix. 🙂
If Neo wanted he could get a nuke and blow it up infront of Dante and out run the blast!
Can you read? That means Neo flies to a silo, then proceeds to chuck it at Dante and it blows up in Dantes face.
Neo stop bullets, but he rarely did that, he mostly dodges.
Just because he rarely stops bullets being fired at him doesn't mean he can't do it all the time.
Times Neo has been fired at;
Matrix:
Lobby Fight
On the roof top (which were dodged)
At the Subway
In the Hall (which were stopped)
Matrix Reloaded:
Only once was he fired at in this movie and he stopped about 200 bullets at once
Matrix Revolutions:
He was never fired at in this movie at all.
Blasting Neo with bullets is stupid, as I said before Neo will stop them with his powers
Ergo its useless for Dante to use projectile weapons
Neo has stopped a sword with his bare hands which resulted in a tiny bit of bleeding
Ergo its useless for Dante to use his sword
Neo also can;
Use Telekinesis
Fly at speeds of 3,000 mph
Stop any amount of bullets - Just incase you missed this point again
Take on a 100 Smiths at a time
Can get any weapon at his disposal
He knows every single form of Kung Fu etc.
Originally posted by Zen2nd
Can you read? That means Neo flies to a silo, then proceeds to chuck it at Dante and it blows up in Dantes face.Just because he rarely stops bullets being fired at him doesn't mean he can't do it all the time.
Times Neo has been fired at;
Matrix:
Lobby Fight
On the roof top (which were dodged)
At the Subway
In the Hall (which were stopped)Matrix Reloaded:
Only once was he fired at in this movie and he stopped about 200 bullets at onceMatrix Revolutions:
He was never fired at in this movie at all.Blasting Neo with bullets is stupid, as I said before Neo will stop them with his powers
[B]Ergo its useless for Dante to use projectile weaponsNeo has stopped a sword with his bare hands which resulted in a tiny bit of bleeding
Ergo its useless for Dante to use his swordNeo also can;
Use Telekinesis
Fly at speeds of 3,000 mph
Stop any amount of bullets - Just incase you missed this point again
Take on a 100 Smiths at a time
Can get any weapon at his disposal
He knows every single form of Kung Fu etc. [/B]
Your the one that's being very ignorant, Neo doesn't stand a chance and you havn't proven that he does. I've seen all three Matrix movies. Neo stop bullets, but he rarely did that, he mostly dodges. Neo can't create nukes (somthing you did say) with his own power. Has he ever created a nuke with his power? Like I said above, Dante could beat him by slashing him up or blasting him with bullets (or using his demon energy on both his sword or bullets). Swords are useless against him, but he has trouble fighting off people in h2h combat? Dante is packing way more power than Neo inside or outside the Matrix. When has he ever used telekinesis?
Dante powers and weapons:
Superspeed
Superhealing (shot in the head countless of times and stabed in the heart by Alastor and he still didn't die)
Superstrength
He knows MAs
He a master swordsman, gunman, and has skills in other weapons too
Can use his demon powers to amp his weapons (he could put demon energy on his sword and bullets)
He can stop time
He can guild through the air at high speeds, by using demon magic
He has two transformation, that amps all of his stats greatly, plus give him the ability to fly
He has a powerful weapon Alastor
His guns Ebony and Ivory has unlimited bullets
Dante wins.🙂
Originally posted by dark99
alright I just looked over this thread and Neo wins in the matrix. Also dvampire you know you lost so quit trying to annoy everybody and stop acting like you have no idea what Neo can do. He can stop anything thrown at him inlcuding bullets, swords, and people.
But he couldn't stop punches and kicks coming his way? I know what he can and can't do and I know for a fact that he doesn't come close to Dante in power. 😕 Sorry but I'll stick with Dante. 😉 🙂 😆
I know what he can and can't do and I know for a fact that he doesn't come close to Dante in power.
I'm afraid you don't have a clue. You don't even know when neo used telekinesis for crying out loud!
Neo stop bullets, but he rarely did that, he mostly dodges.
Why do you keep saying this? Neo CAN and WILL stop all bullets fired by Dante no matter how skilled Dante is with a weapon.
Neo can't create nukes (somthing you did say) with his own power.
Yet again you are repeating this even though I answered this question already. I quoted what I had said already and explained it but your grasp of the English language must be very weak indeed. I said he would GET a nuke not create one. Remember GET a nuke not create one.
Neo doesn't stand a chance and you havn't proven that he does.
Stopping bullets, taking on hundreds of enemies at once isn't proof enough?
His guns Ebony and Ivory has unlimited bullets
Dante can fire as many as he wants, all will be stopped by Neo
Superspeed
I don't remember Dante reaching speeds of 3,000 mph unlike what Neo can do.
Superstrength
Remember strength means nothing in the Matrix. Neo can punch through walls, rip polls out of the ground with ease as well!
He a master swordsman, gunman, and has skills in other weapons too
All useless, as Neo will be better since any knowledge can be learned by Neo in a matter of seconds.
He can stop time
Stopping time in the Matrix is quite useless.
All you have done is stated a bunch of Dantes powers of all of them which Neo can handle with ease in the Matrix.
But he couldn't stop punches and kicks coming his way?
Actually if you watched the movie like you said you did you notice that Neo does indeed block all hits.
Can use his demon powers to amp his weapons (he could put demon energy on his sword and bullets)
Weapons are completely useless so I don't know why you keep on mentioning them?
I can't believe you can't see that Neo has all the advantages in the Matrix
1) Dantes fires = stopped by Neo
2) Dante slashes = Neo stops
3) Dante uses strength = Neo is stronger
4) Dante flies = Neo can also fly
5) Dante can super heal = Neo won't get hit by Dante anyway.
Neo enters the Matrix with two ninja swords, he is downloaded with 1,000 years of the knowledge, use and way of using a ninja sword. Dante doesn't have a chance! Plus if neo wanted he could enter the Matrix with all of Dantes weapons!
I like how every win for Neo has to be in the Matrix. Otherwise he sucks. And really, is it even worthwhile to compare the so-called Chosen One of the Matrix IN the Matrix versus anyone?
Wait... A Sith lord could kill him.
Reach out with the Force and yank that cable right out of the back of his head. Game over.
ehhh thats why I say Neo is in the Matrix?? Thats why I always talked of Neo in the Matrix. Its obvious that Neo hasn't a chance outside the Matrix so I talk about Neo in the Matrix. I thought that was obvious??
Really if the only win you want is when Neo is outside the Matrix well thats pretty lame isn't it?
I don't think you get the point, really.
The only ones who could contend with Neo inside of the Matrix were computer programs, etc. His abilities as a character are entirely dependant on a bunch of bendable laws for a computer program. You might as well argue Sidious and Hitler versus Master Chief in a political campaign.
Now, in a straight up fight he would get whupped by Dante. Dante's power is -very- real. Inside the Matrix? No set rules. As shown in the first movie the computers can alter the programming over -everything- to fit their very whim and Neo can almost do that himself. He can effectively surpass everyone inside of the Matrix because of the way he is built to interface it, not because he is badass.
And therein lies the distinction.
The only ones who could contend with Neo inside of the Matrix were computer programs
The computer programs could do nothing! The computer programs were taken over by Smith anyway.
Anyway I'm not debating Neo outside of the Matrix, I'm debating him in the Matrix.
He can effectively surpass everyone inside of the Matrix because of the way he is built to interface it
So thus from that Neo will beat Dante in the Matrix.
Originally posted by dvampire
But he couldn't stop punches and kicks coming his way?
bullets dont occupy a space for a long time (not as long as a body would anyway) , which is what makes them easier to dodge.. a sword or hand to hand combat is much more persistent in terms of time frame. Including the fact that swords (and weapons of that type) are just extensions of the body. This is my personal opinion on why swords and hand to hand are chosen over guns.. guns simply do not move as fast as the body (or extensions of the body) in the matrixian world, because "Bullets and guns" are basically part of programs that can be altered (from neo's perspective anyway). Which is why only those familiar with the matrix are able to combat neo, because they are slightly less, or in smith's case, equal to his speed
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
bullets dont occupy a space for a long time (not as long as a body would anyway) , which is what makes them easier to dodge.. a sword or hand to hand combat is much more persistent in terms of time frame. Including the fact that swords (and weapons of that type) are just extensions of the body. This is my personal opinion on why swords and hand to hand are chosen over guns.. guns simply do not move as fast as the body (or extensions of the body) in the matrixian world, because "Bullets and guns" are basically part of programs that can be altered (from neo's perspective anyway). Which is why only those familiar with the matrix are able to combat neo, because they are slightly less, or in smith's case, equal to his speed
Thank you for an honest response SaTsuJiN! 🙂 Unlike some people who doesn't think he could be hit at all. 🙄