Dc's Best girls vs. Marvel's best Girls who wins?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
this is the problem when I read these types of forums. Phoenix is reverted back to an abstract entity when I never mentioned Jean Grey as anythign other than the powerful mutant that she is.

Jeangrey became one with the phoenix force to be come phoenix DUE to her omega level mutantancy.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The forum was about a good old fashioned knock down battle with some pretty powerful girls at the levels I mentioned.

What would you think of pitting Takion up against Rune Thor and the hulk and saying that Thor and the hulk win?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Phoenix cannot defeat Mr. Mxy. There is no way. he can't even kill himself.

Can Takion?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Her powers are limited in certain aspects.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
while his are rediculous. He can do things like turn people into cartoons.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
SHe can't beat takion becuz he is the source.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
if he were to loose himself in a battle and loose his humanity, she would never be able to beat the being who basically powers all of reality,

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
even the spectres power comes from the source. and I know the spectre would treat jean grey.

Shall I bring over the scan where a person with half of the phoenix's powers is threatening to collapse the entire multiverse into a singularity?

Edit: http://img365.imageshack.us/my.php?image=excalibur050p039vy.jpg

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
this is the problem when I read these types of forums. Phoenix is reverted back to an abstract entity when I never mentioned Jean Grey as anythign other than the powerful mutant that she is. The forum was about a good old fashioned knock down battle with some pretty powerful girls at the levels I mentioned. Phoenix cannot defeat Mr. Mxy. There is no way. he can't even kill himself. Her powers are limited in certain aspects. while his are rediculous. He can do things like turn people into cartoons. SHe can't beat takion becuz he is the source. if he were to loose himself in a battle and loose his humanity, she would never be able to beat the being who basically powers all of reality, even the spectres power comes from the source. and I know the spectre would treat jean grey.

Youre ridiculously outdated on your Phoenix/Jean Grey ideas. Jean and Phoenix are the same thing. Theyre the very same being. Jean Grey is just how Phoenix manifests into creation. That is current marvel continuity. So next time you make a thread with Jean Grey keep that in mind.

I dont know who this Takion is but unless he's literally the Source itself he will get taken down as will anyone outside of an aspect of DC's supreme being. It takes an aspect to defeat an aspect. Mxy may be a really great reality warper but Phoenix isnt determined by reality she exists beyond it and as such will take him out no problem. Even Silver Surfer in a crossover has shown sufficient ability to nullify the effects of Mxys powers. Know your stuff.

silver surfer never nulled mxy's powers get real. Even myxy said that the surfer couldnt' have turned metropolis back if " I had turned it into a pickle" Thanks. I know my stuff. Hell the lord of time created the multi-verse in dc continuity. So am I to say he can beat the pheonix? Let's get real here. Any Character can be written to get more and more powerful. BUt I"m going for the true phoenix. The one we all know. the destructive force that can kill galaxies. If she repaired the timeline, so what. Paralax did that. Or could have. there is nothing that she did that a dc character has not also done. jean grey is a mutant. And jean grey is the one I put in the battle. Not the phoenix Force. There are so many Cosmics in Dc who get mentioned once or twice who could whup phoenix into submission. You guys put her on the level of the presence. And she is no presence.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
silver surfer never nulled mxy's powers get real. Even myxy said that the surfer couldnt' have turned metropolis back if " I had turned it into a pickle" Thanks. I know my stuff. Hell the lord of time created the multi-verse in dc continuity. So am I to say he can beat the pheonix? Let's get real here. Any Character can be written to get more and more powerful. BUt I"m going for the true phoenix.

Otherwise I could be talking about the 'true" Taikon who gets stomped by aunt may, doesn't mean that it really is the true one, but hey if you can do it why can't I?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And jean grey is the one I put in the battle. Not the phoenix Force.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
silver surfer never nulled mxy's powers get real. Even myxy said that the surfer couldnt' have turned metropolis back if " I had turned it into a pickle" Thanks. I know my stuff. Hell the lord of time created the multi-verse in dc continuity. So am I to say he can beat the pheonix? Let's get real here. Any Character can be written to get more and more powerful. BUt I"m going for the true phoenix. The one we all know. the destructive force that can kill galaxies. If she repaired the timeline, so what. Paralax did that. Or could have. there is nothing that she did that a dc character has not also done. jean grey is a mutant. And jean grey is the one I put in the battle. Not the phoenix Force. There are so many Cosmics in Dc who get mentioned once or twice who could whup phoenix into submission. You guys put her on the level of the presence. And she is no presence.

Youre obviously more of a DC fan than you are Marvel so i'll excuse your complete ignorance on current marvel continuity.

What you need to understand is that Jean Grey is literally Phoenix. You just typing in Jean Grey is no different from typing the Phoenix Force. Thats how it is in Marvel and has been for the last 3 and a half years. Understand that. Accept it.

The time lord created Dc's multiverse? Im sure the Presence will dispute that. Who is this Time Lord? Unless he's an aspect of Dc's supreme being then he gets taken down. If he is then its a stalemate.

The difference with Parallax is that he is a universal level being who is restricted to reality. Phoenix is beyond all such concepts and she moulded and reshaped a universe on a whim whilst holding it in the palm of her hand. None of the people you have mentioned are on that level. She represents Marvels supreme being in creation. She is not getting beaten by Mxy.

What do you mean youre going for the true Phoenix? Your comments suggest you dont have a clue about what that is. Youre ideas are outdated. The destructive force is Dark Phoenix from back in the 1980s but even back then it was made clear Phoenix was just as much about creation as well. Again i say know your stuff.

Phoenix created Marvel multiverse and is one with it and you're putting her up against a Teen titan? 😂

Phoenix gets owned by Supergirl.

is the source. and the high father of the new Gods in one. High father himself said that takion was far more powerful than himself. I know my characters well. and In the end, the phoenix is no match for takion. you telling me she can beat God's Power? Get real. Takion is like 1/3rd of God. It has been decided that DC's God is the most powerful being in any and all realities. The source allowed wanda to be waaaay more powerful in JLA/avengers. The source powers ganthet, and the flash, and all the suns. The source sustains all of hypertime ( outside of reality), The source is the combining of ALL cosmic, and ALL magic, ALL chaos, ALL order, ALL supernatural and all Natural. Takion is the source. The source is what the presence uses to create. While the Spectre is what the presence uses to Destroy. Phoenix cannot ever in any state hope to beat Takion who fully submerges himself into the full power of the source.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
It has been decided that DC's God is the most powerful being in any and all realities.

Binary? Sersi? Jean Grey... Yep, Marvel team wins.

Originally posted by JediMasterLuke5
Phoenix gets owned by Supergirl.

No she doesn't. 😕

Supergirl takes out phoenix any else. Speed Blitz its that simple.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
is the source. and the high father of the new Gods in one. High father himself said that takion was far more powerful than himself. I know my characters well. and In the end, the phoenix is no match for takion. you telling me she can beat God's Power? Get real. Takion is like 1/3rd of God. It has been decided that DC's God is the most powerful being in any and all realities. The source allowed wanda to be waaaay more powerful in JLA/avengers. The source powers ganthet, and the flash, and all the suns. The source sustains all of hypertime ( outside of reality), The source is the combining of ALL cosmic, and ALL magic, ALL chaos, ALL order, ALL supernatural and all Natural. Takion is the source. The source is what the presence uses to create. While the Spectre is what the presence uses to Destroy. Phoenix cannot ever in any state hope to beat Takion who fully submerges himself into the full power of the source.

You really cant be that slow. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and repeat this one more time. In a crossover Phoenix and The Source were shown to be the same thing for their respective universe. Phoenix is marvels very own Source. Ok? Please dont make me repeat myself.

Phoenix Force is the heart of creation in Marvel and sustains all. Everything originates from the Phoenix it is the power of creation. Therefore unless Takion is the Source itself (not just a being tapping into its power) then he just doesnt do im afraid. 🙁

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Youre obviously more of a DC fan than you are Marvel so i'll excuse your complete ignorance on current marvel continuity.

What you need to understand is that Jean Grey is literally Phoenix. You just typing in Jean Grey is no different from typing the Phoenix Force. Thats how it is in Marvel and has been for the last 3 and a half years. Understand that. Accept it.

The time lord created Dc's multiverse? Im sure the Presence will dispute that. Who is this Time Lord? Unless he's an aspect of Dc's supreme being then he gets taken down. If he is then its a stalemate.

The difference with Parallax is that he is a universal level being who is restricted to reality. Phoenix is beyond all such concepts and she moulded and reshaped a universe on a whim whilst holding it in the palm of her hand. None of the people you have mentioned are on that level. She represents Marvels supreme being in creation. She is not getting beaten by Mxy.

What do you mean youre going for the true Phoenix? Your comments suggest you dont have a clue about what that is. Youre ideas are outdated. The destructive force is Dark Phoenix from back in the 1980s but even back then it was made clear Phoenix was just as much about creation as well. Again i say know your stuff.

Phoenix created Marvel multiverse and is one with it and you're putting her up against a Teen titan? 😂

So basically what you're saying is that Jean has the abilities of Phoenix now and that she could use the power when ever she wants? 😐

Originally posted by JediMasterLuke5
Supergirl takes out phoenix any else. Speed Blitz its that simple.

And I think that Phoenix is faster, even in her powered down universal role that people see her as dark phoenix level. . . she crossed the entire galaxy in seconds. 😕

Originally posted by Creshosk
Fanboy.

Actually I'm just going off the list that wizard did as to who was actually the most powerful cosmic being in comics. Dc's God or the split persona's of Takion+the presence+the spectre are it. No one is going to muck with them. Unless they power down. Which has happened. THe presence never powers down. Phoenix can't beat takion.

Phoenix gets owned by supergirl. Have you ever seen Smallville if you have then you when Superman uses his superspeed he basically freezes time, he can in and out of a place with out being noticed. Phoenix would be a sitting duck while Supergirl used a speed blitz.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Actually I'm just going off the list that wizard did as to who was actually the most powerful cosmic being in comics.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Dc's God or the split persona's of Takion+the presence+the spectre are it.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
No one is going to muck with them. Unless they power down. Which has happened. THe presence never powers down. Phoenix can't beat takion.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Fanboy.

✅ Uh-huh

Nvr its an assumption on these forums that each comic book companies supreme beins are equal. So Yahweh (DC) would be equal to TOAA (Marvel). The same goes for their aspects. An aspect would stalemate another aspect. You got a lot to learn son. 😉

Power Girl sits this out? No fair!