Was the Jedi Order's view of the Force flawed?

Exactly, I agree with the above poster. The Sith cause imbalance, yes, but the Sith aren't the only thing on the Dark Side of the Force. In the Expanded Universe, for example, there were still Dark Jedi, whilst not Sith. While this isn't necessarily canon, it still supports my views.

Anyway, yes. "The Sith" is a belief of sorts, a way of looking at the Force, a thing to be practiced. You can be a Jedi and be evil, hence a Dark Jedi, and not follow the practitions of the Sith, see.

but luke did use the dark side of the force... he used force choke in return of the jedi... he choked 2 gamoreans on his way into jabbas palace...

And isnt a perfect balance a Grey Jedi...? Like Jolee Bindo. that guy kicks ass.

Originally posted by Dirk Jade
And isnt a perfect balance a Grey Jedi...? Like Jolee Bindo. that guy kicks ass.

nope.. Grey jedi are stupid and the people using the force for wrong purposes is the imbalance. So after the last sith were gone, the force was balanced again. This is not like Yin/Yang, grey jedi aren't the balance.

Sure they are. I still maintain there is only one force and more then that, Luke HAD to use the dark side to win. If he hadn't, he'd have died, the emperor and vader woudl have had more then enough time to escape the death star, and hunt down leia for the next sith.

No they aren't, and that is simply a fact. Balance = Jedi.

And using the Dark Side did not help Luke one tiny tiny bit. He could never have beaten the Emperor. The power that brought victory was nothing to do with the Dark Side at all; overpowering Vader had, if anything, negative value.

But technically Luke did not use the darkside. He used force choke, which is just another use of the regular force. The dark side is only dark when you use it for evil things.

The power that brought victory was nothing to do with the Light Side at all;

This is incorrect. Vader turned to the good side and defeated the Emperor. It had everything to do with the good side.

Vader picked him up off the ground.
He did it with one hand and one stub
He did it while the emperor was spewing lightning from his fingers.
He threw him up over his head.
He did it while the lightning zapped him.

I don't think anyone but a Jedi using the Force could have done such a powerful thing.

Sorry, that was a typo. I meant it had nothing to do with the Dark Side; I was refuting earlier comments that the Dark Side brought victory.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Sorry, that was a typo. I meant it had nothing to do with the Dark Side; I was refuting earlier comments that the Dark Side brought victory.

according to the Jedi code emotional attachments (well infact all forms of attachments) are forbidden. and the use of the force that is based on emotional feelings is Dark side.

Well, I'd say that the Jedi practice the ways of the Force better and more properly than the Sith do, but there is a problem. The Sith indulge in whatever they want, and I don't see them as hypocrites, whereas the Jedi are.

"Only the Sith deal in absolutes." - Obi-Wan Kenobi.

Then how is it that the Sith are absolutely evil in the Jedi's eyes?